GDT: 1/22 Canes vs Flyers - Time Warp!

[VAcaniac]

Forecast is snowy, windy, and cold for Thursday's game in Buffalo. You heard it here first.

 

[cptjeff]

What sucks is I have a 3+ hour drive and have a hotel. It's not easy for people like me who have to plan well ahead of time.

Yeah, I would explain the situation and then ask for a refund rather forcefully. They'll probably just give it to you to avoid really pissing off somebody who pays a lot of money to see them.

I can understand the noon...but 6PM on a weeknight? What the hell?

Yeah, total bull**** on that one. I routinely don't get out of the office until 6, and my phone app won't let me log in right now, so despite me paying for the service...

 

[Joe McGrath]

So they are still playing the Rangers and Devils games? In the same weather? WTF?

 

[HisIceness]

Booooooooooo.

 

[nobuddy]

So they are still playing the Rangers and Devils games? In the same weather? WTF?

Mass transit is available to those arenas. Philly has very little mass transit.

 

[DaleCooper]

Philly is also getting it a lot worse than here.

 

[nobuddy]

Philly is also getting it a lot worse than here.

Since when are you in the city? What did you end up doing?

 

[DaleCooper]

I got a job here in October. Jersey had run its course.

 

[nobuddy]

Oh that's good to hear. Congrats.

 

[caniac247]

This is just complete and utter BS. There is no valid reason why this game was postponed. So the weather isn't all that great big deal. You don't see NY, NJ, or DC postponing. Their games went on.

And don't give me the oh the roads are bad crap either. I recall the state of NC being in a state of emergency due to an ICE STORM yet the league still made us play that game because the Hawks were in town. I'm sorry, but a state up north has the means to handle this type of weather. A state down south does not have the means to handle snow let alone ice, yet that game went on. j

What makes the flyers so damn special that they can postpone their game while the others, who btw, stands are empty to play.

What a freakin joke the Flyers are. Bunch of babies crying over weather. If you can't handle the snow, then maybe you should move down south.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

IIRC, in terms of having some sway with the league, the Flyers are only behind Boston because of who owns them

 

[jstaal]

ok

So the up one day , and down the other day Carolina Hurricanes go into the House of Horrors, and TAKE ONE... Show us something!

 

[garnetpalmetto]

Mass transit is available to those arenas. Philly has very little mass transit.

6th largest system in the US is "very little?"

 

[Lazyking]

Kinda OT but here in CT, we got like 6-8 inches of fluffy snow but the worst is the cold.. -15 at some points.. I had to shovel the deck.. came in over an hour ago and I'm still feeling the effects.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Yeah, I lived in Philly for about a year a while back and am a bit surprised by the lack of public transport comments. Even on the arena website they list:

Wells Fargo Center
From West Philadelphia and University City via the SEPTA Subway:
Take the Market Frankford Line (blue) eastbound toward Frankford Terminal. Get off at the 15th & Market Street stop and transfer to the Broad Street Line (orange) southbound toward Pattison. Get off at the last southbound stop, AT&T Station (Pattison Avenue).

From 30th Street Station via the SEPTA Subway:
Take the Market Frankford Line (blue) eastbound toward Frankford Terminal, get off at the 15th & Market Street Stop and transfer to the Broad Street Line (orange) southbound toward Pattison. Get off at the last southbound stop, AT&T Station (Pattison Avenue).

From Center City and North Philadelphia:
Take the Broad Street Subway Line (orange) southbound to AT&T Station (Pattison Avenue).

From South Philadelphia:
Take the Broad Street Subway Line (orange) southbound to AT&T Station (Pattison Avenue).
OR
Take either Route 4 bus, or 17 bus (Center City/South Philadelphia) southbound to Broad Street.

Via SEPTA Regional Rail:
Take the Regional Rail train to Suburban Station (16th Street & JFK Blvd). Walk through the building to the City Hall Station and take the Broad Street Subway Line (orange) southbound to AT&T Station (Pattison Avenue).

Maybe it's just a case of people really don't use the public transport to get to games like they do in other cities? Or were the subway/rails out impacted by the storm as well?

Not saying it's as extensive as NYC, but it's not non-existent either. It's been a long time since I lived there though and didn't spend much time getting to the arena, so asking questions more than casting doubt.

 

[garnetpalmetto]

Yeah, I lived in Philly for about a year a while back and am a bit surprised by the lack of public transport comments. Even on the arena website they list:



Maybe it's just a case of people really don't use the public transport to get to games like they do in other cities? Or were the subway/rails out impacted by the storm as well?

Not saying it's as extensive as NYC, but it's not non-existent either. It's been a long time since I lived there though and didn't spend much time getting to the arena, so asking questions more than casting doubt.

Per a friend of mine who lives in Philly, only a few bus routes were canceled.

 

[caniac247]

What's even more of a joke is that the musical 'Driving Miss Daisy' which plays down the road from Wells Fargo, went on. So a musical wasn't postponed or cancelled due to weather, but a hockey game was. Pathetic.

Here's hoping the Canes come out and do what they did to Toronto after a postponed game.

 

[AD Skinner]

IIRC, in terms of having some sway with the league, the Flyers are only behind Boston because of who owns them

100 times this. As I understand it (which admittedly may be oversimplified) Comcast owns the Flyers, and also NBC and CSN. I'm kind of surprised the league doesn't cater more specifically to their whims more often, really.

 

[tarheelhockey]

What's even more of a joke is that the musical 'Driving Miss Daisy' which plays down the road from Wells Fargo, went on. So a musical wasn't postponed or cancelled due to weather, but a hockey game was. Pathetic.

Ok, I wasn't outraged until you posted this. I don't even care about the game being rescheduled... but a bunch of hockey players getting shown up by the toughness of a theater troupe? That's just unacceptable.

C'mon Philly, get it together!

 

[tarheelhockey]

 

[DaleCooper]

6th largest system in the US is "very little?"

I'm annoyed that the game was canceled and am not defending that decision at all, but...

Wells Fargo Center is not very connected into the transit network, certainly nowhere even remotely close to the level that Madison Square Garden and Verizon Center are. It sits in the middle of a giant parking lot well south of downtown adjacent to the interstate, and I would speculate that at least 90% of people arrive there by car. The Broad Street subway line goes between the arena and downtown, which is fine for getting people around once they are within the city, but for the demographics the Flyers attract (a good bit of which is in south Jersey suburbs) getting there to begin with would be an issue. SEPTA is also more of a commuter system; the focus is getting people from the burbs to center city during peak hours for work.

Furthermore, there was some buzz yesterday afternoon that SEPTA may shut down completely, which didn't happen (but many bus routes were canceled), but there were delays on all commuter rail lines of at least an hour, so it was definitely not a time to be hopping on the train to travel to a hockey game.

None of this necessarily means the game should have been postponed (Prudential Center is pretty car dependent as well though not as much as Philly and the game went on there), but saying that people could have just taken transit there is not necessarily true for very many people.

Also, unfortunately I'm not sure "6th largest system" in the United States really says too much. Unless you're in New York, Washington, Boston, San Francisco, or Chicago, you're probably not relying on transit as your primary way of getting around unless it's due to economic hardship.

 

[Chrispy]

Is it confirmed tonights game will be on FS-Carolinas? Last night there was no conflict, but there is an ACC basketball game scheduled on FS-Carolinas tonight. It's not a good game, but it could still cause issues.

Will the Canes be on FS-Carolinas or on SportSouth?

 

[nobuddy]

Is it confirmed tonights game will be on FS-Carolinas? Last night there was no conflict, but there is an ACC basketball game scheduled on FS-Carolinas tonight. It's not a good game, but it could still cause issues.

Will the Canes be on FS-Carolinas or on SportSouth?

I believe Forslund tweeted that it would be.

 

[Chrispy]

I believe Forslund tweeted that it would be.

You are correct.

Tomorrow in Philly will be televised on FSC. Channel listings could vary. Check local listings and Canes sites. Canes Live 530 #moresleep

 

[garnetpalmetto]

I'm annoyed that the game was canceled and am not defending that decision at all, but...

Wells Fargo Center is not very connected into the transit network, certainly nowhere even remotely close to the level that Madison Square Garden and Verizon Center are. It sits in the middle of a giant parking lot well south of downtown adjacent to the interstate, and I would speculate that at least 90% of people arrive there by car. The Broad Street subway line goes between the arena and downtown, which is fine for getting people around once they are within the city, but for the demographics the Flyers attract (a good bit of which is in south Jersey suburbs) getting there to begin with would be an issue. SEPTA is also more of a commuter system; the focus is getting people from the burbs to center city during peak hours for work.

Furthermore, there was some buzz yesterday afternoon that SEPTA may shut down completely, which didn't happen (but many bus routes were canceled), but there were delays on all commuter rail lines of at least an hour, so it was definitely not a time to be hopping on the train to travel to a hockey game.

None of this necessarily means the game should have been postponed (Prudential Center is pretty car dependent as well though not as much as Philly and the game went on there), but saying that people could have just taken transit there is not necessarily true for very many people.

Also, unfortunately I'm not sure "6th largest system" in the United States really says too much. Unless you're in New York, Washington, Boston, San Francisco, or Chicago, you're probably not relying on transit as your primary way of getting around unless it's due to economic hardship.

And yet the NFL didn't cancel/delay the Lions-Eagles game on Dec. 8. The city was hit with about 8.6" of snow according to NOAA and there was 6" on the field of Lincoln Financial Stadium, which is located right next to Wells Fargo Center in the South Philly Sportsplex, and as somebody else mentioned a theatrical production of Driving Miss Daisy saw fit to run last night.