Proposal: Zegras to HABS

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Also with the Ducks sitting comfortably in a playoff position and Zegras playing so well for them, there's absolutely no reason for them to make this move.
 

PettersonHughes

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Caufield + Romanov + 1s to little for Zegras. What is this a joke or just a statement to cause crap?

Lol not all 3 but even if it's Caufield Montreal's adding a 1st. Zegras is scoring at a 0.8 points/ game rate, Caufield at 0.3, so it's not like Cole's a hotshot asset that would make a 1-for-1 warranted; rather there's a big difference in current value. Romanov's probably closer esp. seeing how he's a top-4 level D, but the Ducks have a pretty good D-core (Fowler, Lindholm, Manson, Drysdale plus Guhle and Larsson among early-round prospects) so they might not need him. Bottom line though, the Habs are paying up (Romanov at least needs a 2nd to be close in value IMO).
 
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Zegras has shown that hes one of the few players in the league that can keep up with Caufield and hit him in that sweet spot for the one tee,, in order for the Habs to get full value out of Cole and use him properly, they need someone like Zegras to be robin to Coles Batman.

Here is what I propose,,

:habs

Zegras
Zellwegger
4th round pick

:ducks

Norlinder
Mysak
2023 1st round pick
2024 1st round pick
Tuch (to be flipped to Buffalo for another pick to play with his brother - Buffalo would value him higher to you could probably get another 1st rounder out of this).

D-swap of prospecs in Norlinder and Zellwegger as it seems Norlinder would look good in Anaheims system.

Potentially three 1st rounders for Zegras.. Bit of an overpay for MTL but you have to pay to get good players.,,
Take out the 4th. And it’s still bad.
 
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Zegras has shown that hes one of the few players in the league that can keep up with Caufield and hit him in that sweet spot for the one tee,, in order for the Habs to get full value out of Cole and use him properly, they need someone like Zegras to be robin to Coles Batman.

Here is what I propose,,

:habs

Zegras
Zellwegger
4th round pick

:ducks

Norlinder
Mysak
2023 1st round pick
2024 1st round pick
Tuch (to be flipped to Buffalo for another pick to play with his brother - Buffalo would value him higher to you could probably get another 1st rounder out of this).

D-swap of prospecs in Norlinder and Zellwegger as it seems Norlinder would look good in Anaheims system.

Potentially three 1st rounders for Zegras.. Bit of an overpay for MTL but you have to pay to get good players.,,

Fancy assist aside, there ain't no way the Ducks are parting with him
 
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UED

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This is a copy paste of the original Kessel trade which was a mega disaster for the Leafs. We're not trading our entire rebuild for one player! Also Tuch is not getting them a 1st and quite possibly the last team that would trade their 1st for a 2nd rounder is Buffalo. This would give the Ducks the opportunity to build a super team though with 4 top 5 picks in the next 2 drafts while the Habs rot away for 2 years with one star player and a bunch of AHLers like the Sabres have been doing the past few years but this time without our 1sts... It's like you guys think tanker 1sts are the same value as contenders' 1sts until the day of the draft where they suddenly become more valuable
 

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Guys like Zegras don't get traded. You draft them or pay a ton to get them as UFAs.

I wouldn't do this even if one of the picks was MTL '22 unprotected first.

No chance, lock it up.
 

Buck Dancer

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Caufield + Romanov + 1s to little for Zegras. What is this a joke or just a statement to cause crap?

The joke is the proposal, not the answer you got from it.

You're asking for a legit gem and you're giving up a Calder candidate that is now playing in the minors, on a garbage of a team no less, a promising dman who can't grab the opportunities given to him with all the injuries your team has ATM and a pick, which is probably your best asset in this deal but won't help the Ducks before 2024.

Yeah, I wouldn't be too excited if I was a Ducks fan. It's the Peter Griffin mystery box scenario all over again.
 

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Caufield + Romanov and 1st better be getting us matthews if not Mcdavid
Excuse me, what? That MIGHT get you Elias Pettersson.
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Boondock

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Zegras has shown that hes one of the few players in the league that can keep up with Caufield and hit him in that sweet spot for the one tee,, in order for the Habs to get full value out of Cole and use him properly, they need someone like Zegras to be robin to Coles Batman.

Here is what I propose,,

:habs

Zegras
Zellwegger
4th round pick

:ducks

Norlinder
Mysak
2023 1st round pick
2024 1st round pick
Tuch (to be flipped to Buffalo for another pick to play with his brother - Buffalo would value him higher to you could probably get another 1st rounder out of this).

D-swap of prospecs in Norlinder and Zellwegger as it seems Norlinder would look good in Anaheims system.

Potentially three 1st rounders for Zegras.. Bit of an overpay for MTL but you have to pay to get good players.,,
There are many issues with this trade thread.
1 - Zegras teams don't trade away their 20 year old rookie of the year centers for a collection of lesser pieces. Especially when said team is finally emerging from a long re-build.
2 - Position - center and right handed D are the 2 most valuable positions in the NHL. You are asking for a C and then offering a LHD, LW and picks in return. THe value doesn't add up.
3 - Tuch - the entire idea that Buffalo gladly offers a 1st for Tuch is such a flawed and unrealistic take. Tuch has gone pointless in 9 college games so far this year. If you feel he is worth that, then I would suggest the Habs trade him for a 1st and use that in the trade offer, but to expect the Ducks to trade Tuch and to get a 1st isn't realistic.
4 - The 1sts - the Ducks are playing really well right now and finally seeing the results of a rebuild and you want them to move their most valuable piece of the rebuild to 2 future 1sts that are probably 3-4 years from ever seeing NHL ice. This seems like a bad decision for the Ducks.
5 - Zellwegger - this player isn't just a throw in. He's an 18 year old D man thats producing at over a ppg in the WHL right now. I would argue that his value is higher than Norlinder, but even if you have them as equals this would be a loss for the Ducks based on age and ceiling.

Overall this is not a good trade for the Ducks.
 
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