Value of: Zegras for Wright

[CanadienShark]

Anaheim passes.

 

[bsu]

Because he didn’t score 100 this year doesnt mean he won’t in the nhl.

Point is that Wright has higher potential. Anaheim would definitely have to closely evaluate write to decline that offer

Yikes

 

[quackquackquack]

Who says no? Anaheim. We love Zegras and he's going to be the face of the franchise for a long time.

 

[BKarchitect]

Yikes

Willing to bet the thought process is:

Wright is possibly/probably going to be the #1 pick and I’ve been hearing how awesome he is since he was 14 years old.

Zegras was a 9th overall pick and he wasn’t considered a “phenom” at age 17.

Therefore, Wright > Zegras.

Also, I learned that at age 21, Zegras is going to be too old to contribute to a winning Ducks team in the future.

 

[Just Linda]

I wouldn't do it for the Habs.

Zegras is great and will do things offensively that few players can but Wright will be a better all round player with a lot less offensive production. Zegras likely will be better long term but Habs need solid two-way down the middle. I'd give up anything but 1oa (and Suzuki for selfish reasons) for Zegras though.

Zegras has a great chance of being the better player but hes better suited to avoid the Montreal media.

 

[McDonald19]

On the surface wright is worth more.

Based on what? Zegras has already proven to be an elite young player in the NHL. Wright might end up being just a good 2nd liner.

Zegras last season is indicative of a good 2C. He could get there next season or he could hit the infamous sophmore slump as teams know how to play against him better. One of the more entertaining players in the league but it's premature to call him a current 1C.

Actually he is a 1C. On a garage rebuilding team, but still a 1C with a very high ceiling.

 

[McDonald19]

Really? Because most people would view that sample as being so arbitrary that it doesn't really have a lot of value beyond "players that score a lot when younger can score a lot when older" which is pretty self evident.

I think it’s pretty valid. 100 point seasons are still rare in the NHL. If he didn’t dominate to that degree in juniors, it’s unlikely he will in the NHL.

 

[bsu]

I wouldn't do it for the Habs.

Zegras is great and will do things offensively that few players can but Wright will be a better all round player with a lot less offensive production. Zegras likely will be better long term but Habs need solid two-way down the middle. I'd give up anything but 1oa (and Suzuki for selfish reasons) for Zegras though.

Zegras has a great chance of being the better player but hes better suited to avoid the Montreal media.

It's all good you don't have to worry, the Ducks wouldn't trade Zegras for anything the Canadians have to offer 1 for 1.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Heres a hot take

I think mctavish for Wright is closer than zegras for wright.

 

[McDonald19]

Point is that Wright has higher potential.

Based on what?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I wouldn't do it for the Habs.

Zegras is great and will do things offensively that few players can but Wright will be a better all round player with a lot less offensive production. Zegras likely will be better long term but Habs need solid two-way down the middle. I'd give up anything but 1oa (and Suzuki for selfish reasons) for Zegras though.

Zegras has a great chance of being the better player but hes better suited to avoid the Montreal media.

Zegras is the type of player who would shine in that type of media city to be honest.

 

[bsu]

Heres a hot take

I think mctavish for Wright is closer than zegras for wright.

That's not a hot take. McTavish and Wright are similar prospects at this point, McTavish having the better shot & heavier game and Wright having the better defensive game & a little better skating.

 

[Vachon23]

I would say the fact that no center from the CHL has scored >100 points in the NHL without doing so in their CHL draft year tells me it's worth mentioning.

Nathan MacKinnon had season that could have been 100 pts if he played 82 games (and he will do it)

Never scored more then 80 pts in the CHL

 

[No ReGretzkys]

No thanks as a Habs fans

Lmao, is Shane Wright your son or something? Take your bias glasses off

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Change the number to even 10 or 15 or 20 if you like.

ATOI means he's had plenty of opportunity with many people, the linemates argument holds less weight opposed to someone who's played say 14 minutes a game.

Huh lololol

It's 21 per my updated post above. So that puts him 33rd despite <18 mins a game. Still ahead of guys like Barzal, O'Reilly, Suzuki, and Hertl.

And yeah, he had opportunities to play with tons of other players, like Nick Deslauriers and Derek Grant...

I forget, hes an infamous duck hater, because the duck fans wouldnt put zegras(+ 3rd overall + drysdale) on the table for eichel.


Not sure if he understands how linemates work? I mean he can literally check who zegras played with majority of the time.... he didnt even really play with Terry on Powerplay, they had a few weeks where they played together... but most of the time it was a revolving door of AHL/NHL players like Mayhew, Milano, Robinson, Des, Carrick and when rakell was around him.

 

[Vachon23]

Lmao, is Shane Wright your son or something? Take your bias glasses off

I prefer the player I project Wright to be then what I project Zegras to be, not more complicated then that.

I understand 100 % the Ducks not doing that trade too...

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Because he didn’t score 100 this year doesnt mean he won’t in the nhl.

Point is that Wright has higher potential. Anaheim would definitely have to closely evaluate write to decline that offer

What is there to evaluate....

Zegras is already a fan favorite in anaheim... and honestly hes becoming a fan favorite league wide... kid has a personality skillset and attitude that really makes people want to watch hockey. Zegras is already the new face of the franchise and i assume we sign him long term ASAP. He alone is worth price of admission to watch the shit show that is currently ducks hockey.

We have McTavish, who is similar quality center to Wright... we dont need wright. If we did win the lottery i would prob pick Cooley/ Slaf over wright anyhow

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Nathan MacKinnon had season that could have been 100 pts if he played 82 games (and he will do it)

Never scored more then 80 pts in the CHL

Sure, he also only played 44 games in his draft year. Would have likely broken 100 points before his 60th game....

 

[Vachon23]

Sure, he also only played 44 games in his draft year. Would have likely broken 100 points before his 60th game....

If Wright would have played all the 68 games, he would probably have broken the 100 pts him too

At the end of the day, I don't think Wright will be a 100 pts player but I value more a 80-85 pts player with a great 2 way game and great intangible (what I see in Wright) then a 100 pts unidimensional player.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I think it’s pretty valid. 100 point seasons are still rare in the NHL. If he didn’t dominate to that degree in juniors, it’s unlikely he will in the NHL.

Its not that its invalid, its that the bar is so high and the sample so specific as it has almost no value.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

If Wright would have played all the 68 games, he would probably have broken the 100 pts him too

At the end of the day, I don't think Wright will be a 100 pts player but I value more a 80-85 pts player with a great 2 way game and great intangible (what I see in Wright) then a 100 pts unidimensional player.

So wright is going to be an 80-85 point 2 way center with "intangibles"?

And zegras is 1 dimensional?

 

[Vachon23]

So wright is going to be an 80-85 point 2 way center with "intangibles"?

And zegras is 1 dimensional?

Zegras is an offensive dynamo, but he's not a great 2 way player. it's really nothing against Zegras, I think he's perfect for your market, I just prefer Wright

 

[Mrfenn92]

So wright is going to be an 80-85 point 2 way center with "intangibles"?

And zegras is 1 dimensional?

He’s to old to improve

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Zegras is an offensive dynamo, but he's not a great 2 way player. it's really nothing against Zegras, I think he's perfect for your market, I just prefer Wright

I think hes bad in his own end... solid in neutral zone + forecheck. I also think he knows where his weaknesses are, and will put the effort in to improve those parts of his games. Personally not to worried about it, he spent most of the season playing with AHL players/ and bottom 6 players.

He’s to old to improve

i forget 21 is the new 34

 

[Vachon23]

I think hes bad in his own end... solid in neutral zone + forecheck. I also think he knows where his weaknesses are, and will put the effort in to improve those parts of his games. Personally not to worried about it, he spent most of the season playing with AHL players/ and bottom 6 players.


i forget 21 is the new 34

Where did I said Zegras can't improve or that he was bad player ?

I didn't know Ducks fans where that sensitive