Zach Werenski should be considered for the Norris?

[Avsfan1921]

Are we so sure of that? Makar has 4 more points and is the third highest point getter on his team, with 2 of the top 3 highest guys in the league leading the way. Werenski is the #1 play driver on the entire team, a team that was expected to be a lottery team, not contending for a cup like Colorado.

If Makar finishes with ahead with sizable gap between them, sure. But if it's tight? I think Werenski gets the nod.

If Makar doesn’t widen the gap, I’d be A-ok with Werenski winning just for the feel good story it would be, not to take away from the great year he’s having.

 

[CBJx614]

Two huge game tying goals tonight.

 

[CBJx614]

 

[JoeSakic13]

He should be a finalist, but (if it was awarded today) not win it.

Makar and Hughes are still well ahead of him. It’s unfortunate he doesn’t have a linemate like they do, but it’s still Cale and Quinn’s to lose.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Hart Trophy

 

[Vasilevskiy]

If he keeps this up arguably deserves to win it, what a crazy good season

 

[GoJackets1]

He should be a finalist, but (if it was awarded today) not win it.

Makar and Hughes are still well ahead of him. It’s unfortunate he doesn’t have a linemate like they do, but it’s still Cale and Quinn’s to lose.

Werenski is tied with Makar for points, and now leads him in goals by 2 with one less game played. Please explain how Makar is “still well ahead”. If you mean in the popularity contest that the Norris vote will actually be, then I agree. But if it wasn’t purely name recognition, it would at least be very close.

 

[Golden_Jet]

He’s right there with the others, I said in the other threads he was being overlooked.

 

[Boonk]

Its a deadheat race between Hughes and Werenski for the Norris at this point. If Columbus manages to sneak their way to the dance while Vancouver continues to spiral, Werenski is taking it. Best player on the ice for Columbus and tilts the game in their favour every time hes out there.

 

[Crede777]

A month ago I said if the season ended that day he'd be a finalist but not win.

I've changed my mind and now, if the season ended, I do think he would win. He is: T-#1 Points for a defenseman, #1 Goals for a defenseman, and #1 TOI/G for a defenseman. You could argue that, when accounting for games played, Hughes jumps out in front. That would be correct. However, at the end of the season, they typically don't account for games played. If anything, missing games hurts players in Norris discussions. So that's why I think Werenski would win.

 

[sr edler]

Would be a good time for a D to win the Hart again.

 

[Rowlet]

He's passed Makar for Norris in my books, but Hughes' possession numbers are still way better, similarly if a defenseman is going to win the Hart, I still don't see an argument for Werenski over Hughes.

As good as Werenski has been, his numbers are being propped up by the Monahan line somewhat, while Hughes makes every line better.

 

[John Mandalorian]

He should be in the Hart discussion along with other non forwards like Hellebuyck, Makar, Hughes, and Fox.

 

[Lt Dan]

He should be in the Hart discussion along with other non forwards like Hellebuyck, Makar, Hughes, and Fox.

This is the way

 

[S1N4TR4]

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Z has the most points out of anyone across the entire league in their last 10 games played. goodness

 

[SteelCityCannon]

As good as Werenski has been, his numbers are being propped up by the Monahan line somewhat, while Hughes makes every line better.

That's a tough sell to me when not only is he leading the league in TOI but he's on pace to high the highest TOI in 6 seasons overall. He's on the ice ALOT, not just with the top line.

If you play that card, you can discredit Makar for playing with MacKinnon too. Equally silly. They're all monsters in their own right.

 

[Cowumbus]

He's passed Makar for Norris in my books, but Hughes' possession numbers are still way better, similarly if a defenseman is going to win the Hart, I still don't see an argument for Werenski over Hughes.

As good as Werenski has been, his numbers are being propped up by the Monahan line somewhat, while Hughes makes every line better.

lol is this sarcasm?

Here’s a goal playing with those guys last night. Oh wait Monahan, is hurt, and Werenski did it all himself…


Jack Johnson, Justin Danforth and Mathieu Olivier are the only guys on the Jackets who have a better CF% without Werenski vs with him.

Werenski is playing 26+ mins every night alongside Dante Fabbro (waiver pickup), not Filip Hronek.

5v5 Werenski has more goals, first assists, and secondary assists than Hughes. So again, Werenski is getting propped up by 1 line, despite playing more, with a worse D partner, and on a worse team?

 

[Dumais]

That's a tough sell to me when not only is he leading the league in TOI but he's on pace to high the highest TOI in 6 seasons overall. He's on the ice ALOT, not just with the top line.

If you play that card, you can discredit Makar for playing with MacKinnon too. Equally silly. They're all monsters in their own right.

I think the entire team is propping him up lol I guess that's a problem....leading the team.

He's 3 away from being tied in goals, leads in assists and points. He's constantly looking to jump in the play with any forward line. And everyone on the team knows to get it to him. It's absolutely fantastic to watch. A very sneak two way player that looks for opportunities in the offensive zone.

 

[CBJx614]

He's passed Makar for Norris in my books, but Hughes' possession numbers are still way better, similarly if a defenseman is going to win the Hart, I still don't see an argument for Werenski over Hughes.

As good as Werenski has been, his numbers are being propped up by the Monahan line somewhat, while Hughes makes every line better.

You don't see how Werenski has a better case? None whatsoever?