Player Discussion Zac Jones

[QJL]

They should play him more kid has potential but they don't

Who should he be taking minutes from? Fox, Trouba, Miller, or Lindgren?

 

[bl02]

Who should he be taking minutes from? Fox, Trouba, Miller, or Lindgren?

Hajek lol he plays two games then we see Hajek for 3. Hajek sucks and has reached his potential

 

[JimmyG89]

Going to bump this bad boy up. He's been rock solid since Fox went down and he was added into the lineup. He deserves some recognition for it.

SSS but he's a nice piece to have and you have your Gustafson replacement if he prices himself out this summer.

 

[will1066]

Before the delayed penalty goal, watch the juke he made at the point to keep the puck in the offensive zone and continue the forecheck. It was spectacular

 

[Priorae]

Having 7 legit defensemen will be a weapon all year long. Jones was fantastic today

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Having 7 legit defensemen will be a weapon all year long. Jones was fantastic today

I'm not so sure they don't use him as trade bait during the Deadline....

 

[DudMan28]

I'm not so sure they don't use him as trade bait during the Deadline....

With Gus due for a big raise it’ll be nice to have a cheap option on the bottom pair going into next year

 

[Priorae]

I'm not so sure they don't use him as trade bait during the Deadline....

We’ll see what life’s like then, but at this point I see little reason. Someone else will get hurt and having interchangeable pieces is a complete advantage.

 

[zlev]

he was phenomenal today. our best defenseman.

 

[bbny]

He’s inconsistent, but you can see the potential there. He needs gobs of minutes to develop more at this level. I’m not sure it will happen here, in fact I’m pretty sure it won’t, but I enjoy rooting for him

 

[NickyFotiu]

Obviously not as good yet but he is kind of like a Mike McEwen player so far.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

I feel like people can’t comprehend the idea that you don’t have to be great defensively to have an overwhelmingly positive impact on the game as a defenseman

 

[nyr2k2]

I feel like people can’t comprehend the idea that you don’t have to be great defensively to have an overwhelmingly positive impact on the game as a defenseman

In games like today's, a track meet, his ability to quickly move the puck is dynamite. In tighter and more defensive games I get nervous when he's out there. I imagine this would include the playoffs. He's still developing though; the things he does well are good assets to have and the things he struggles with you can somewhat mitigate by sheltering him and/or making sure he's out there with a really responsible partner.

If nothing else I think he has justified keeping him for the rest of the season and possibly next.

 

[Mike in Houston]

In games like today's, a track meet, his ability to quickly move the puck is dynamite. In tighter and more defensive games I get nervous when he's out there. I imagine this would include the playoffs. He's still developing though; the things he does well are good assets to have and the things he struggles with you can somewhat mitigate by sheltering him and/or making sure he's out there with a really responsible partner.

If nothing else I think he has justified keeping him for the rest of the season and possibly next.

If he's in the lineup during the playoffs it would be concerning to me. I'm glad he's getting a lot of experience right now because as soon as Fox returns Zac is headed back upstairs.

 

[nyr2k2]

If he's in the lineup during the playoffs it would be concerning to me. I'm glad he's getting a lot of experience right now because as soon as Fox returns Zac is headed back upstairs.

Oh yeah for sure. When Fox is back there's no room for him with everyone healthy. I'm just speaking to his game in general.

 

[egelband]

The bruins are very aggressive in front of the opposing net and Jones was able to keep himself in between the bruins players and quick. Think he is going to be ok. And he has been excellent moving the puck. Feeling pretty confident about Jones lately.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

In games like today's, a track meet, his ability to quickly move the puck is dynamite. In tighter and more defensive games I get nervous when he's out there. I imagine this would include the playoffs. He's still developing though; the things he does well are good assets to have and the things he struggles with you can somewhat mitigate by sheltering him and/or making sure he's out there with a really responsible partner.

If nothing else I think he has justified keeping him for the rest of the season and possibly next.

I just don’t get this mentality where the need to move the puck somehow disappears in the playoffs or in “tighter” games. His strengths are a necessity at all times and were the biggest deficiency with the team last year specifically the 3rd pair. Every time I watch Jones he looks like a guy they need for the playoffs more than Schneider

 

[nyr2k2]

I just don’t get this mentality where the need to move the puck somehow disappears in the playoffs or in “tighter” games. His strengths are a necessity at all times and were the biggest deficiency with the team last year specifically the 3rd pair. Every time I watch Jones he looks like a guy they need for the playoffs more than Schneider

I didn't say or imply the need disappears in the playoffs.

 

[zlev]

I just don’t get this mentality where the need to move the puck somehow disappears in the playoffs or in “tighter” games. His strengths are a necessity at all times and were the biggest deficiency with the team last year specifically the 3rd pair. Every time I watch Jones he looks like a guy they need for the playoffs more than Schneider

yeah especially last year vs the Devils, we needed someone who could move the puck. i thought he was very good in his own zone today too anyway. i think he is already better than Schneider.

the Panthers dragged the corpse of Marc Staal all the way to the finals last year because they paired him with someone who could move the puck out of the zone quickly.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

yeah especially last year vs the Devils, we needed someone who could move the puck. i thought he was very good in his own zone today too anyway. i think he is already better than Schneider.

the Panthers dragged the corpse of Marc Staal all the way to the finals last year because they paired him with someone who could move the puck out of the zone quickly.

Its funny because I was just watching Marc Staal suck an unbelievable amount of ass for the Flyers.

 

[BS45]

I just don’t get this mentality where the need to move the puck somehow disappears in the playoffs or in “tighter” games. His strengths are a necessity at all times and were the biggest deficiency with the team last year specifically the 3rd pair. Every time I watch Jones he looks like a guy they need for the playoffs more than Schneider

I am glad you are not the GM of the Rangers. Jones would get exposed so bad in the playoffs that its silly. It terrible how Ranger fans love to bash on Schneider, Trouba and Miller. You guys don't know what we have. Trouba and Miller would each be a #2 or #3 on most NHL teams. There might be maybe 5 teams besides the Rangers where Schneider wouldn't be a #4 at worst. Schneider just turned 22 and he has already played 143 career games and 27 playoff games as a defenseman. That doesn't happen often at such a young age.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

I am glad you are not the GM of the Rangers. Jones would get exposed so bad in the playoffs that its silly. It terrible how Ranger fans love to bash on Schneider, Trouba and Miller. You guys don't know what we have. Trouba and Miller would each be a #2 or #3 on most NHL teams. There might be maybe 5 teams besides the Rangers where Schneider wouldn't be a #4 at worst. Schneider just turned 22 and he has already played 143 career games and 27 playoff games as a defenseman. That doesn't happen often at such a young age.

lol what? What does this have to do with Miller. This isn’t a matter of under appreciating Schneider. He’s always been an extremely mistake prone player when it comes to moving the puck out of the D zone (same with Trouba) and it kills the teams transition/offense. It’s why the 3rd pair blows beyond belief every time they pair Schneider with another horse sized player who can’t make a breakout pass (Mikkola, Harpur, Nemeth, Hajek).


Schneider can defend well but it’s mitigated by how much he relies on his partner to move the puck. He’s by no means too good to ever come out of the lineup for Jones. It will be extremely dumb if NYR don’t see what they have in Jones with Gus/Lindgren/Trouba

 

[IchabodCrane]

Who should he be taking minutes from? Fox, Trouba, Miller, or Lindgren?

Miller. Miller may be our most overrated guy. Quite frankly, he is awful at defense.

 

[Jim Ramsay]

Miller. Miller may be our most overrated guy. Quite frankly, he is awful at defense.

Miller, the guy who has 8 points and is a +9

Jones is has the worst plus minus on the team with a -4

Jones is young and will get better, but he surely isnt doing much to help defensively.

Still think whatever offense he provides wont compensate for how shakey he looks in the D zone... I do hope to be proven wrong

 

[ecemleafs]

I'm not so sure they don't use him as trade bait during the Deadline....

you dont trade your top depth defenseman heading into the playoffs.