Your top 7 for the 2024 draft

[Runner77]

Hoping Lindstrom’s alleged back issues cause him to slip but they likely won’t once they see his medical records:



Translation: Lindstrom's injury history is greatly exaggerated. A minor surgery on his hand and back pain linked to his significant growth in size within a short timespan. Essentially, D’Amico is assured that there is nothing recurrent in his injuries, just bad luck.

Also, FWIW, D’Amico spoke to Lindstrom’s agent who confirmed that Lindstrom’s medical records show that there is nothing serious and teams will be able to see that for themselves.

 

[Pat Riot]

Zegras is an inconsistent spaz , who is paid a lot of money and seems like a 'me me' player.

Salary speaking , Zegras is underpaid for the type of production he brings. Seems like a me me player? Bunch of teammates and former coaches said the exact opposite. Ill take their opinions before yours. Plus Hughes and St-Louis know very well Zegras, if they trade for him you can be damn sure they know what they are doing.

You never watched him play to come up with that conclusion

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Buium was better than Hutson in Frozen 4. Plus 2 years younger. He could be homerun.

I’d love to draft him. It’s just not in the cards this year. But he could be incredible.

 

[Habs]

Salary speaking , Zegras is underpaid for the type of production he brings. Seems like a me me player? Bunch of teammates and former coaches said the exact opposite. Ill take their opinions before yours. Plus Hughes and St-Louis know very well Zegras, if they trade for him you can be damn sure they know what they are doing.

You never watched him play to come up with that conclusion

Does it hurt when someone has a different opinion than yours ? Will you be ok?

 

[Mrb1p]

1. Celebrini
2. Demidov: he seems super talented. He might be the same level as Michkov but with a good attitude.
3. Catton: he's very agile, great stickhandling and vision. I value a lot of offense awareness (hockey sense), and he has it.
4. Lindstrom: big and play big, a true power-forward. He might be slightly worse version of Byfield. I find he's worse than Catton, he ranks quite high thanks to his size. If he's 2-3 inches shorter, I doubt that analysts would rank him high.
5. Iginla: good shot and very competitive. IQ might not be as elite as other top prospects
6. Parekh: good offence.
7. Leshunov: complete package

Iginla's IQ is what allows him to score so many goals. He's amazing at finding soft ice and he's also very good at keeping the play alive. His IQ is definitely not a concern.

I’d love to draft him. It’s just not in the cards this year. But he could be incredible.

Why not ? Don't we all scream BPA at the top of our lungs 24/7?

Zegras is an inconsistent spaz , who is paid a lot of money and seems like a 'me me' player.

Im with you on this. Zegras Succs.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Why not ? Don't we all scream BPA at the top of our lungs 24/7?

We’ve got a guy who does what he does already and we need a forward. Buick is on the left side, we D have him Hutson, Guhle… where are you going to find the ice for all of them? It’d be like drafting Lundqvist right after drafting Price.

And there are tons of great forwards.

 

[Mrb1p]

We’ve got a guy who does what he does already and we need a forward. Buick is on the left side, we D have him Hutson, Guhle… where are you going to find the ice for all of them? It’d be like drafting Lundqvist right after drafting Price.

And there are tons of great forwards.

If we drafted Lundqvist we could've flipped him for something else.

If Buium is the clear BPA, you go for him. You trade Hutson for something else, you move things. I don,t really care. Maximize value.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

If we drafted Lundqvist we could've flipped him for something else.

Why bother flipping if you can just draft the forward you want?

If Buium is the clear BPA, you go for him. You trade Hutson for something else, you move things. I don,t really care. Maximize value.

I don’t think he is the clear BPA. The rankings are all over the place.

 

[Mrb1p]

Why bother flipping if you can just draft the forward you want?

I don’t think he is the clear BPA. The rankings are all over the place.

It's not a matter of what you, I or the lists says, it's what the team thinks. If the team clearly sees him as a BPA at their spot, they should take him an ddeal with it later.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

It's not a matter of what you, I or the lists says, it's what the team thinks. If the team clearly sees him as a BPA at their spot, they should take him an ddeal with it later.

Again… there’s not enough ice there. We’re not moving Hutson or Guhle right? So pick a forward.

Drafting a guy to trade him makes zero sense.

 

[Mrb1p]

Again… there’s not enough ice there. We’re not moving Hutson or Guhle right? So pick a forward.

Drafting a guy to trade him makes zero sense.

Why are we not moving them if Buium is possibly a better player, again, in the minds of the person picking ?

If we had the first pick in 2018, would we just not draft Dahlin because we have Guhle and Hutson ?

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

But that's my top-7, I have all these players in front of him, I'm not an expert and I will be wrong on many players.

After more shifts by shifts, he reminds me of Pacioretty (in the NHL) with more compete in him. We will see what part of his game will translate to the NHL. He won't be a center, if he reaches his full potential, IMO.

Pacioretty pre-Chara incident isn’t a bad comparable. That Patches was a top 5 pick all day long. Charged the net like a demon.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Hoping Lindstrom’s alleged back issues cause him to slip but they likely won’t once they see his medical records:



Translation: Lindstrom's injury history is greatly exaggerated. A minor surgery on his hand and back pain linked to his significant growth in size within a short timespan. Essentially, D’Amico is assured that there is nothing recurrent in his injuries, just bad luck.

Also, FWIW, D’Amico spoke to Lindstrom’s agent who confirmed that Lindstrom’s medical records show that there is nothing serious and teams will be able to see that for themselves.

If we stay at 5, we just need two teams ahead of us to take a D. Either he or Demidov falls to us. Hopefully someone ahead of us is in love with Catton as well

We have good luck in the lottery so I’m worried law of averages means we fall back this time. I do like Iginla enough not to worry too much

 

[Runner77]

If we stay at 5, we just need two teams ahead of us to take a D. Either he or Demidov falls to us. Hopefully someone ahead of us is in love with Catton as well

We have good luck in the lottery so I’m worried law of averages means we fall back this time. I do like Iginla enough not to worry too much

By good luck you mean the Habs never slipped from the drafting slot they had going into a lottery? I don’t remember them ever winning one — maybe we’re due.

 

[Habs]

Iginla's IQ is what allows him to score so many goals. He's amazing at finding soft ice and he's also very good at keeping the play alive. His IQ is definitely not a concern.


Why not ? Don't we all scream BPA at the top of our lungs 24/7?


Im with you on this. Zegras Succs.

careful, you'll get yelled at by some here.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

By good luck you mean the Habs never skipped from the drafting slot they had going into a lottery? I don’t remember them ever winning one — maybe we’re due.

I don’t think we’ve ever dropped. Going down to 5 in 2005. Going up to 3 in 2018. Not crazy good luck but no bad luck from what I remember

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Iginla's IQ is what allows him to score so many goals. He's amazing at finding soft ice and he's also very good at keeping the play alive. His IQ is definitely not a concern.


Why not ? Don't we all scream BPA at the top of our lungs 24/7?


Im with you on this. Zegras Succs.

Yeah from the highlights I seen, Iggy makes really good decisions. I would love to grab both him and Lindstrom and just have this absurd top 12 up front

 

[Mrb1p]

careful, you'll get yelled at by some here.

You're a a rookie on this subject, son. I called Zegras sucking in 2019.

Yeah from the highlights I seen, Iggy makes really good decisions. I would love to grab both him and Lindstrom and just have this absurd top 12 up front

Why stop there ? Lets grab Celebrini too. I could also do with Zeev and Levshunov, and Id like to gamble on Silayev.

We can offer Evans, Pezz, Gally, Anderson and Matheson as sacrifice.

 

[Runner77]

Yeah from the highlights I seen, Iggy makes really good decisions. I would love to grab both him and Lindstrom and just have this absurd top 12 up front

Nice dream, which we seem to have every draft. I’ll be happy with one of either and hope to see Hughes use redundant assets to land another quality forward.

 

[Pat Riot]

Does it hurt when someone has a different opinion than yours ? Will you be ok?

Why would your opinions hurt me? Sorry but they are really not important.

 

[dcyhabs]

The BPA thing is pretty tough. It comes down to "don't stray too far from popular lists unless you get it right." Romanov was a crazy pick until he worked out, same with Slaf. The Lafreniere pick was mocked but he's fine now that he's playing on a scoring line. Florian Xhekaj was picked "way too high" in the fourth round until he changed positions and improved his game.

I'd interpret it more as "don't do something obviously dumb" like so many habs picks in the '90s. Trying to fill a need can be OK, but if you want a big C in a draft that doesn't have any real C prospects don't force it. A lot of Bergevin's picks really looked to me like a combination of "hey the guys on TSN liked this guy" and "give me the top C left on your list." Kotkaniemi is still pretty much the best center from his draft, maybe Sharangovich, but it's close. Picking a C in that draft was pretty clearly a dumb thing to do.

It sort of worries me that Hughes is trending that way, taking the best D last year when most of the best players were forwards. The habs scouts can usually evaluate defenders, so Reinbacher should be fine, but it's a dangerous move. Similarly trying to take a forward in this draft is very risky. You won't know the results immediately, but passing on a D who could be a difference maker for a pretty good forward is not a great move.

You lose value trying to trade a prospect who plays a position you have depth in for one who plays a position you need, but it's not as steep a discount as taking a good player over a great one. No issues if they evaluate the players and they think, say Iginla is better than anyone left, but if they take Iginla, or Catton, or whoever when they are pretty sure they'll be second line while passing on a D they consider a potential top pairing player I don't think it makes sense. The evaluation is pretty tough, though, so it also depends on how much you trust your judgement.

 

[Habs]

Why would your opinions hurt me? Sorry but they are really not important.

sure...sure..

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

The BPA thing is pretty tough. It comes down to "don't stray too far from popular lists unless you get it right." Romanov was a crazy pick until he worked out, same with Slaf. The Lafreniere pick was mocked but he's fine now that he's playing on a scoring line. Florian Xhekaj was picked "way too high" in the fourth round until he changed positions and improved his game.

I'd interpret it more as "don't do something obviously dumb" like so many habs picks in the '90s. Trying to fill a need can be OK, but if you want a big C in a draft that doesn't have any real C prospects don't force it. A lot of Bergevin's picks really looked to me like a combination of "hey the guys on TSN liked this guy" and "give me the top C left on your list." Kotkaniemi is still pretty much the best center from his draft, maybe Sharangovich, but it's close. Picking a C in that draft was pretty clearly a dumb thing to do.

It sort of worries me that Hughes is trending that way, taking the best D last year when most of the best players were forwards. The habs scouts can usually evaluate defenders, so Reinbacher should be fine, but it's a dangerous move. Similarly trying to take a forward in this draft is very risky. You won't know the results immediately, but passing on a D who could be a difference maker for a pretty good forward is not a great move.

You lose value trying to trade a prospect who plays a position you have depth in for one who plays a position you need, but it's not as steep a discount as taking a good player over a great one. No issues if they evaluate the players and they think, say Iginla is better than anyone left, but if they take Iginla, or Catton, or whoever when they are pretty sure they'll be second line while passing on a D they consider a potential top pairing player I don't think it makes sense. The evaluation is pretty tough, though, so it also depends on how much you trust your judgement.

Hughes isn't trending any way other than taking the player that they believe to be the BPA. Reinbacher was a unanimous pick by his staff by the end of their deliberations. All due respect but you are applying your own bias to reach a conclusion that he drafted for need especially when the consensus is that our "need" was at forward.....Hughes went against popular public opinion in regards to organizational need to select Reinbacher which should be obviously be viewed as selecting BPA.

 

[Andrei79]

It's funny to see the change in discourse regarding Leonard. Some were throwing hissy fits at the very idea they pick him as high as 5th.

Hughes isn't trending any way other than taking the player that they believe to be the BPA. Reinbacher was a unanimous pick by his staff by the end of their deliberations. All due respect but you are applying your own bias to reach a conclusion that he drafted for need especially when the consensus is that our "need" was at forward.....Hughes went against popular public opinion in regards to organizational need to select Reinbacher which should be obviously be viewed as selecting BPA.

This is exactly why I'm puzzled at the need part. The comment about LD was extrapolated to mean they picked for need. But they didn't say the same thing regarding any forward position. Every prospect that was mentioned around our pick filled a need. And picking a RD has no incidence on picking or not picking a LD this year. It's just a strange talking point that likely stems from still being angry they didnt pick the Russian wonder boy that was telling teams to shove it.

 

[Ezpz]

It's funny to see the change in discourse regarding Leonard. Some were throwing hissy fits at the very idea they pick him as high as 5th.


This is exactly why I'm puzzled at the need part. The comment about LD was extrapolated to mean they picked for need. But they didn't say the same thing regarding any forward position. Every prospect that was mentioned around our pick filled a need. And picking a RD has no incidence on picking or not picking a LD this year. It's just a strange talking point that likely stems from still being angry they didnt pick the Russian wonder boy that was telling teams to shove it.

I don't think Leonard is more than a second liner. I think people read too much into NCAA stats not realizing division and team mates are massive factors so even comparing one NCAA team to another isnt accurate. The impressive thing about Huston and celebrini is they were the only elite players on their team in a strong conference.