GDT: Your New Jersey Devils (5-3-1) @ Detroit Red Wings (3-3-0), 7 PM, MSGSN

[Unknown Caller]

If the skaters play like this devils will win majority of their games.

We say this every year.

 

[sabremike]

They lost this game because they completely lost their composure after that awful non call on the boarding.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Bottom line, it unfortunately cost us.

This is definitely true. That's a PK you need to kill as a team. They did make up for it

 

[TheUnseenHand]

I don't see how they call roughing there. Dillion waited, and they both dropped the gloves.

The way the refs called it, it made no sense. And it was absurd the wings didn't get the initial call on top of it.

That's easily should have been two each for roughing and 5 for fighting or just two fighting penalties.

The wrong call was made, but it was still a call. It should have been instigating. But if they just called the first penalty properly we wouldn't be having this discussion. But that is the NHL for you. Every game is that way. Lest we forget we got an absolute phantom call our way that we couldn't take advantage of.

 

[Devils731]

This game was reminiscent of pretty much every loss during the Covid year and the 2021-22 season.

Some fans used to have a win-o-meter that was supposed to show the percentage of times a team should win based on the statistics from the game. Many of the losses should have been wins according to the win-o-meter.

I don’t care about the win-o-meter. You’ll find tons of posts from me saying xG are not mature enough to measure things on a game by game basis. xG undercount amazing chances and overcount lame chances, as just some of the issues.

But we all watched the game tonight. We can all see the Devils have many more and many higher quality chances. That wasn’t true of many of the games where the Devils won the win-o-meter last year.

 

[Devs3cups]

We say this every year.

I think the statement is true though. Question is, will they play solid hockey most nights?

 

[Maine Fan]

I mean he will get fired for not firing a goalie coach if that goalie coach is a reason why the goalies suck again and the team sucks

No, he will get fired because the team sucks

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Dougie was fine tonight?

Offensively he is looking MUCH better for sure. His defensive zone play is reason for concern though.

 

[Bcap88]

How many times has this team looked good and not gotten the results

I think we are past the point of morale victories. Results are the name of the game and so far they been shitty

 

[Hisch13r]

We say this every year.

The only year where they actually shit kicked teams like this on a regular basis they were great. It's just idk if they'll continually be able to play games like this given what they've looked through the rest of the year.

 

[My3Sons]

Detroit sucks. Against actual good teams we look slow.

I think that's a function of having to unlearn all the Ruff strategy and tactics. They started to look better tonight connecting passes. With some more time to practice they should start being able to play faster. The only truly slow players are Noesen and Palat and Bastian up front and then Dillon and Dougie in the back. The rest are at least average and some are quite fast.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I think the statement is true though. Question is, will they play solid hockey most nights?

Bigger question is will they get the saves they need most nights

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

They lost this game because they completely lost their composure after that awful non call on the boarding.

Idk if I'd agree that they lost the game specifically, but they definitely fell apart on the pk cuz of it most likely. That's where they need to stay calm and just kill it off

 

[jkrdevil]

I really don't have an issue with Dillon defending himself there and it was crazy by the refs it wasn't even.

Team needs to learn to stick up for themselves physically.

That Mercer penalty was totally brain dead dumb and he directly deserves some of the blame for this lose. Zero excuse

I do. But I know I have an opposite take than everyone here. They shouldn’t react at all to that stuff. They need to learn to play without emotion. You especially can’t react to that stuff when you don’t have goaltending and as a result can’t afford to go on the PK.

 

[Hisch13r]

No, he will get fired because the team sucks

And there's a valid reason to believe a large reason for that is the goaltending and a large reason to believe Rogalski is a big factor in that.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Bad calls happen, your PK needs to get a kill there to get into OT. That was a hallmark of last years's Devils not getting points in games they should've gotten something. Hell, this board + myself gave them credit for them doing it v the Caps. Mercer better have a good f***ing game tomorrow + Markstrom better have a good f***ing next game too.

 

[Devs3cups]

I'll say, I like what Keefe had to say tonight.

 

[Better Call Sal]

Man, that was quite the egg Markstrom laid out there tonight. I know it’s going to happen over the course of an 82 game season, but that’s a game the team deserved a win in.

You obviously would like some other chances buried so it doesn’t get to this point, but my blame here lies squarely at the feet of the goalie.

They had a response and pushback tonight. At least there’s that. Hopefully they can hold their heads a bit high about their play because they’ve got such a quick chance to turn around tomorrow and Sunday.

 

[BurntToast]

 

[My3Sons]

Did they? I dunno. It never felt comfortable and I didn't really feel like Markstrom was that bad. Last goal was soft as hell, but the game should have been way out of reach by them. Not leading that game by 3-4 at any point is the most inexcusable thing to me and it falls on everyone not named Nico Hischier as far as I'm concerned.

I thought he looked bad on that second goal falling over way too early and that last goal was woof. In contrast Talbot made a number of big saves. To my eyes they dominated the run of play and had crappy luck on top of everything else.

 

[Maine Fan]

And there's a valid reason to believe a large reason for that is the goaltending and a large reason to believe Rogalski is a big factor in that.

Ok, you win.

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

Yea I remember that

 

[TheUnseenHand]

I thought he looked bad on that second goal falling over way too early and that last goal was woof. In contrast Talbot made a number of big saves. To my eyes they dominated the run of play and had crappy luck on top of everything else.

Good teams make their own luck. If they had a track record of playing this way and winning more often than they lose I would be more open to chalking it up as being goalied. Unfortunately this is a trend for this team at this point. Play poorly and lose. Play well and still lose.

 

[My3Sons]

So for each remaining game NJ needs to send MacDermid out to drop his gloves and attack the best player on the other team and beat him mercilessly. They will get coincidental minors.

 

[Hisch13r]

Bad calls happen, your PK needs to get a kill there to get into OT. That was a hallmark of last years's Devils not getting points in games they should've gotten something. Hell, this board + myself gave them credit for them doing it v the Caps. Mercer better have a good f***ing game tomorrow + Markstrom better have a good f***ing next game too.

The PK was so f***ing good up until these last couple of games.