Player Discussion: Yegor Chinakhov

[EspenK]

Are Sillinger, Marchenko, Chinakov, Johnson and Voronkov all core players for the future? They can’t all be bridge deals because the day of reckoning if contracts expire in close proximity will limit who can be extended.

The franchise needs to decide which guys get shorter term bridge deals and longer term (5+) deals. Who gets what is a tough call but I don’t want Jarmo making those calls.

I don't know Moe (or Curly or Larry before DSL jumps in). If all 5 are bridged for say an average of 4.5mm that is 22.5mm a year for 3 years. if 2 guys are extended LT for say 7 and the other 3 go for 3.5 thats 24.5mm a year. So when the other 3 will need a new contract the Jackets will have 14 mm tied up in 2 guys and Fantilli will have been signed long term the year before.

Not all 3 of the bridged guys will most likely not required big $$ deals 3 years from now. The cap will keep rising. Laine might be gone. Provorov will gone, I don't think there is much risk of getting into cap hell by bridging all 5 guys.

 

[koteka]

the usual suspects would be happy as ticks on a buck for something to cry about and blame Jarmo for

If he had said “We already have a lot of money invested in wings and didn’t think it was the correct move for the franchise to give a long and expensive contract to another wing.” I would have been impressed.

Jarmo used to do the unexpected. That was when I liked Jarmo. If he is doing things just so people on HF won’t get mad, he shouldn’t be a GM.

Jarmo’s moves the last few seasons are GM trying to save his job type moves not Jarmo is a wizard type moves.

Signing the best UFAs like Gaudreau and Severson is a winner’s curse situation. Anyone who understands free agency knows getting the best free agents means bad contracts.

Winner’s Curse - The Decision Lab

The winner’s curse is the tendency for the winning bid to exceed the worth of an item.

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Adding a bad contract when your team is close and going for it is one thing. Adding bad contracts when your team is not very good is usually not the smart play.

 

[Cheddarcheese]

Can you imagine the posts from people if it came out that Gaudreau WANTED to be here and we DIDNT sign him. And then he signed somewhere else in the division or conference?

People would want Jarmo fired even more than signing him and having a lackluster season.

bingo lol

 

[EXTRAS]

How good could he become? 80 point player seem within reach?

 

[majormajor]

How good could he become? 80 point player seem within reach?

It's hard to tell. He's scored something like 20 pts in his last 24 games, but this is his first big scoring run of his career. The basic skills and hockey sense are all there, the shot is elite. There's nothing that makes me think he can't be a point per game guy. Goal scorers run hot and cold though, maybe 60 pts is a smarter bet.

 

[CBJx614]

 

[EXTRAS]

Contract expectation?

 

[Cheddarcheese]

Contract expectation?

hard to say, i would hope for a bridge type deal ( prove it deal ) maybe 2-3 years 2.5m-3.8m ? i could be out for lunch tho i have no idea ? these expiring contract affect our future so much im really curious what we do with all of them

 

[Indy18]

hard to say, i would hope for a bridge type deal ( prove it deal ) maybe 2-3 years 2.5m-3.8m ? i could be out for lunch tho i have no idea ? these expiring contract affect our future so much im really curious what we do with all of them

 

[Cheddarcheese]

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im guessing with the cap going up 4m the % will be a little higher ? idk ?

 

[Indy18]

im guessing with the cap going up 4m the % will be a little higher ? idk ?

They been pretty accurate with most of their analytics so far:

 

[Cheddarcheese]

They been pretty accurate with most of their analytics so far:

pretty cool site. would be happy with the number they projected

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Any news on his signing now that Don Waddell is the GM?

Seems like the Blue Jackets are at an advantage since he is restricted. But I'd imagine he is viewed as a long-term piece.

 

[CBJx614]

Any news on his signing now that Don Waddell is the GM?

Seems like the Blue Jackets are at an advantage since he is restricted. But I'd imagine he is viewed as a long-term piece.

Probably won't happen until after the draft IMO, but I can't see a situation where he's not signed, unless they are trading him, which I can't see either.

 

[Doggy]

I don't recall if it was BobbyMac's or Porty's last podcast but someone wrote in asking about Chinny's impending new deal giving me the impression they'd been in discussions for awhile and were getting close. This surprised me because I felt like I had basically heard nothing regarding any free agent negotiations (and usually there are some leaks when things start heating up).

 

[KJ Dangler]

Seems like Chinny is the priority , the Don has spoke highly of KJ as well , would expect these to be first 2 signed

 

[CBJWerenski8]

I don't recall if it was BobbyMac's or Porty's last podcast but someone wrote in asking about Chinny's impending new deal giving me the impression they'd been in discussions for awhile and were getting close. This surprised me because I felt like I had basically heard nothing regarding any free agent negotiations (and usually there are some leaks when things start heating up).

Seems like Chinny is the priority , the Don has spoke highly of KJ as well , would expect these to be first 2 signed

Either of you have the lottery numbers?

 

[koteka]

I figure they signed Chinakhov first because he is the one that was most likely to sign an offer sheet. KJ can’t sign one. Marchenko’s agent never publicly expressed any issues last season. Sillinger probably wants to see how long he can stay with one team so he can make fun of his dad.

 

[VT]

I think Chinakhov is better than Marchenko he has potential to be a first line player. Also has excellent for/back checking and can play in PK too. Hope he will improve his play.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

I figure they signed Chinakhov first because he is the one that was most likely to sign an offer sheet. KJ can’t sign one. Marchenko’s agent never publicly expressed any issues last season. Sillinger probably wants to see how long he can stay with one team so he can make fun of his dad.

I mean with a 2.1 mllion cap hit, who would even try and offer sheet that we wouldn't instantly match. If he's happy with that number he wasn't out hunting for a massive offer sheet deal.

 

[koteka]

I mean with a 2.1 mllion cap hit, who would even try and offer sheet that we wouldn't instantly match. If he's happy with that number he wasn't out hunting for a massive offer sheet deal.

They might have done a weird structure where we would probably match but not like the structure of the contract. Like upfront guaranteed money and straight to free agency. Not saying it would happen. But we are probably not going to retaliate next year when we likely have a high pick. So a good team might take their shot thinking there is a chance. Chinakhov is a guy whose agent has expressed some displeasure with the Jackets and he could have signed one just for leverage

 

[VT]

They might have done a weird structure where we would probably match but not like the structure of the contract. Like upfront guaranteed money and straight to free agency. Not saying it would happen. But we are probably not going to retaliate next year when we likely have a high pick. So a good team might take their shot thinking there is a chance. Chinakhov is a guy whose agent has expressed some displeasure with the Jackets and he could have signed one just for leverage

I'd be pretty surprised if his agent Shumi Babayev wasn't complaining. He always finds something, KHL teams could write a dissertation about it. Except SKA and CSKA.

 

[Caser]

I think he was projected to go in late second or even third round

Chinakhov recently told in an interview that before the draft Sharks management told him they are picking him at 31st, so maybe it wasn't such a big reach.

 

[CBJx614]

Chinakov needs to stay healthy this season, with Laine gone he could be the one with the most to gain. His shot is good enough to replace Laine and he could actually be a better fit on the first PP when Werenski is inevitably running it.

 

[OldGoaltender]

Chinakov’s shot is as good as Laine’s.