Value of: Yamamoto + 2022 First

[Geardedandbearded]

What type of value does this package have? This appears to be an all in year for the oilers and we have a few spots that could use upgrading. Top 6 winger, Bottom 4 LD, 3c, goalie.

would this package be enough for getzlaf+rakell?
Lindholm?

The ducks have a lot of players I want lol

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[OilersCoffeeArtBeer]

Lindholm, no.
Getzlaf + Rakell, also no. The cap wouldn't work trade wise.
For value..It would be Yamamoto + 1st + samourukov/Lavoie atleast. Then you have to consider cap alteration....
Either the Ducks retain or the oilers send cap back.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Could the Devils interest you in a slightly washed PK Subban LMAO

They'd even eat 50% of the cap hit

 

[LTIR]

Could the Devils interest you in a slightly washed PK Subban LMAO

They'd even eat 50% of the cap hit

Throw in M.McLeod and we might be interested.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Throw in M.McLeod and we might be interested.

I'd do it for sure

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Yeah Evander Kane can be all yours.

 

[TFHockey]

Yeah Evander Kane can be all yours.

Sounds to me like your first is involved in any trade for Kane.

 

[blankall]

These players plus 1st don't really do much for most teams. No team is going to just aggregate the value of these assets and give you a much better player.

If you include playoffs, Yamamoto also had 2 points in his last 17 games. He's 23, not over the hill by any means but running out of development time, as most forward are considered to be in their prime by 24-25.

For a rebuilding team, they'll have interest in the first, but likely little interest in Yamamoto. No contending team is going to provide you with a better winger in exchange for Yamamoto.

The first is a good place to start to acquire what you're looking for, but you'll likely have to add a different asset besides a spare part. Assuming you're looking for a "top 6 winger", which Yamamoto is supposed to be, that makes him a spare part.

 

[Llamamoto]

Throw in M.McLeod and we might be interested.

No we absolutely wouldn't lol.

 

[LTIR]

These players plus 1st don't really do much for most teams. No team is going to just aggregate the value of these assets and give you a much better player.

If you include playoffs, Yamamoto also had 2 points in his last 17 games. He's 23, not over the hill by any means but running out of development time, as most forward are considered to be in their prime by 24-25.

For a rebuilding team, they'll have interest in the first, but likely little interest in Yamamoto. No contending team is going to provide you with a better winger in exchange for Yamamoto.

The first is a good place to start to acquire what you're looking for, but you'll likely have to add a different asset besides a spare part. Assuming you're looking for a "top 6 winger", which Yamamoto is supposed to be, that makes him a spare part.

Yama may be a spare part but he is more valuable than a 2nd Rd pick or a non NHL prospect.

If ANA is looking to trade Rakell or Lindholm for a pick + prospect then Yama+1st would be very enticing.

 

[archangel2]

Some oiler fans are in for a rude awakening to the value of Yamamoto. For me he is a 3rd liner at best

 

[ManofSteel55]

These players plus 1st don't really do much for most teams. No team is going to just aggregate the value of these assets and give you a much better player.

If you include playoffs, Yamamoto also had 2 points in his last 17 games. He's 23, not over the hill by any means but running out of development time, as most forward are considered to be in their prime by 24-25.

For a rebuilding team, they'll have interest in the first, but likely little interest in Yamamoto. No contending team is going to provide you with a better winger in exchange for Yamamoto.

The first is a good place to start to acquire what you're looking for, but you'll likely have to add a different asset besides a spare part. Assuming you're looking for a "top 6 winger", which Yamamoto is supposed to be, that makes him a spare part.

At this point, if Yamamoto is traded on his own, its for another similar aged player who isn't fitting on his team I would bet, so its not like that has a ton of value. The first has more value for sure. The Oilers likely would consider the 1st and Yamamoto package to upgrade and bring in a veteran scorer or legitimate starting goalie, but probably not until later in the year. Not enough cap space to work with now.

I find it odd that the game after Smith gets injured, our fans are more worried about talking about dumping Yamamoto than upgrading in net.

 

[themelkman]

Yam isnt gonna be worth much. Reclamation projects dont get used in big packages.

 

[Smartguy]

Some oiler fans are in for a rude awakening to the value of Yamamoto. For me he is a 3rd liner at best

While that’s true right now he’s 23, shown in flashes he could do more, and just played over 100 games.

The issue is the Oilers, with Puljujarvi’s impending big raise, will have no room for him, regardless of his production, he also gets no PP time. Which in the past he’s shown to be good in.

A good Target would be Kessel, but I think very low chance he goes to EDM even just for a year.

Yamamoto is essentially a poor mans Garland at this point

 

[blankall]

Yama may be a spare part but he is more valuable than a 2nd Rd pick or a non NHL prospect.

If ANA is looking to trade Rakell or Lindholm for a pick + prospect then Yama+1st would be very enticing.

If I'm Anaheim I would want the 2nd instead. If they are trading their players in their prime, like Rackell and Linholm, then they want to go full rebuild, and the more potential a player has the better. Quite frankly if a player can't put up descent numbers playing shotgun to McDavid and/or Draisaitl they aren't likely to succeed anywhere else.

Yamamoto is likely to be more enticing to a competing team who is looking to get a potential top 6 ready player at a bargain price.

 

[PAZ]

If I'm Anaheim I would want the 2nd instead. If they are trading their players in their prime, like Rackell and Linholm, then they want to go full rebuild, and the more potential a player has the better. Quite frankly if a player can't put up descent numbers playing shotgun to McDavid and/or Draisaitl they aren't likely to succeed anywhere else.

Yamamoto is likely to be more enticing to a competing team who is looking to get a potential top 6 ready player at a bargain price.

I have a hard time seeing Yamamoto being enticing to a competing team as a top 6 option, considering you just described the Oilers and he's not good enough for them.

 

[ManofSteel55]

If I'm Anaheim I would want the 2nd instead. If they are trading their players in their prime, like Rackell and Linholm, then they want to go full rebuild, and the more potential a player has the better. Quite frankly if a player can't put up descent numbers playing shotgun to McDavid and/or Draisaitl they aren't likely to succeed anywhere else.

Yamamoto is likely to be more enticing to a competing team who is looking to get a potential top 6 ready player at a bargain price.

Anaheim has been going full rebuild already, but I think you are probably right on their lack of interest in Yamamoto, as they already have a lot of young forwards trying to earn a spot and make a name for themselves. Maybe something around Yamamoto and Steel could work if Steel scoring last night doesn't kick him into gear, but even then I am not sure as Steel can play C or W.

 

[blankall]

I have a hard time seeing Yamamoto being enticing to a competing team as a top 6 option, considering you just described the Oilers and he's not good enough for them.

It would be a change of scenery type deal. Scouts from another team may see something in him. Generally, you are correct they're aren't very many bidders for small 23 year old top 6 forwards who aren't working out.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Some oiler fans are in for a rude awakening to the value of Yamamoto. For me he is a 3rd liner at best

Yamamoto is a 3rd liner caliber guy. A good one though. I’ve been saying he should be the forechecker sparkplug guy on a 3rd line for awhile. Still I wouldn’t trade him for a 2nd rounder. The guy is young and an NHL winger. I keep him over the magic bean. Oilers need depth. I’m not sold at all on shopping our 1st for an upgrade either. No cap space to even entertain the upgrade

 

[blankall]

Anaheim has been going full rebuild already, but I think you are probably right on their lack of interest in Yamamoto, as they already have a lot of young forwards trying to earn a spot and make a name for themselves. Maybe something around Yamamoto and Steel could work if Steel scoring last night doesn't kick him into gear, but even then I am not sure as Steel can play C or W.

I don't think Anaheim is actually going full rebuild. The reason being is that they have Gibson, who has a good chance of becoming the best goalie in the league. I'd describe it as more of a re-tool. Why haven't they trade Rakell, Silfverberg, and Lindholm already? It seems they are taking a similar path to LA. Keep the competitive pieces and build around them via the draft.

It's a tough spot when you have a player like Gibson, because they are so difficult to find. Even if you go full scorched rebuild, you might never find another player of that caliber.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I don't think Anaheim is actually going full rebuild. The reason being is that they have Gibson, who has a good chance of becoming the best goalie in the league. I'd describe it as more of a re-tool. Why haven't they trade Rakell, Silfverberg, and Lindholm already? It seems they are taking a similar path to LA. Keep the competitive pieces and build around them via the draft.

It's a tough spot when you have a player like Gibson, because they are so difficult to find. Even if you go full scorched rebuild, you might never find another player of that caliber.

A rebuild doesn't have to mean "torch the village and salt the earth". Anaheim held onto the pieces that would ideally help them when the rebuild is complete, like Gibson, and the veteran players who will help along their emerging young talent, like Getzlaf. As per their other guys, most of them are coming to UFA status this summer, and they will probably be traded, assuming the Ducks are out of playoff contention early. They didn't do it previously, because there isn't much point to trading those guys last year when they can get a similar price this year.

 

[Chet Manley]

Not sure what these 2 assets are worth but do know that the Oilers shouldn't use whatever tradeable assets they still have on anything other than a starting goalie.

 

[blankall]

A rebuild doesn't have to mean "torch the village and salt the earth". Anaheim held onto the pieces that would ideally help them when the rebuild is complete, like Gibson, and the veteran players who will help along their emerging young talent, like Getzlaf. As per their other guys, most of them are coming to UFA status this summer, and they will probably be traded, assuming the Ducks are out of playoff contention early. They didn't do it previously, because there isn't much point to trading those guys last year when they can get a similar price this year.

If you're planning to trade them all, then you might as well do it as early as possible, to ensure you get the best draft picks possible. I suppose you're correct many teams may wait until the players are surefire UFAs, there are other considerations like ticket sales.

 

[xoczar99ox]

Yam isnt gonna be worth much. Reclamation projects dont get used in big packages.

Reclamation? He’s literally played one season in the league…smh.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

I don't value Yamamoto as much more than a reclamation project at this point. Sure, he had a great 27 game stretch a couple years ago when he got to play with Drai, but the kid has only scored 3 career NHL points without Drai/McDavid on the ice in 108 games, which raises serious red flags for me.

With that said, I don't think the package is all that enticing for what you're trying to get. Maybe you could get a backup goalie or mediocre bottom 4D (with the other team adding a 2nd/3rd to even out the value), but probably not much more than that.