Yakov Trenin breaks Derek Forbort's orbital bone while prone

[BigBadBruins7708]

meh, seems like quick karma more than anything. Forbort threw 2 bad punches when Trenin was on the ice and Trenin returned the favor.

 

[Stephen]

Looks like the DoPS has deferred this to the court of street justice in 2026. Typical.

 

[The Nuge]

meh, seems like quick karma more than anything. Forbort threw 2 bad punches when Trenin was on the ice and Trenin returned the favor.

Yep. This scream **** around and find out. Don’t throw at guys who are down, and maybe they won’t do it back

 

[State of Hockey]

The replies in this thread are so bad I wonder if anyone is actually serious. It was a cheapshot that you rarely see, nothing that forbort did was unusual or "deserving" of it, and when it does happen both teams know a line was crossed. What Trenin did is what can lead to fighting being banned.

Watch the kuraly/Leonard fight from yesterday. Punches thrown when players are down. The only difference is none landed.

There was nothing similar in that fight. Kuraly had a late attempt at the same time they hit the ice, which happens in many fights, but he was letting up and both players knew when to quit. Trenin got a bullseye in so late the linemen was already holding back Forbort.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Forbort should have kept his hands up.

 

[The Nuge]

It was a cheapshot that you rarely see, nothing that forbort did was unusual or "deserving" of it, and when it does happen both teams know a line was crossed. What Trenin did is what can lead to fighting being banned.

Trenin was literally on his hands and knees on the ice, and Forbort was punching down at him. It was a gutless act by Forbort and absolutely deserving of a shot back. It’s unfortunate Forbort got hurt, but it’s ridiculous to pretend like he wasn’t the one who started throwing punches at a guy who was down just because Trenin managed to get up and return the favour. If anything, if Forbort would have had some class and just wrestled Trenin down when he was on the ice, Trenin wouldn’t have even been in the position to throw another. But instead, he had to try and get some free shots in, and paid for it

 

[jackjohnson]

The replies in this thread are so bad I wonder if anyone is actually serious. It was a cheapshot that you rarely see, nothing that forbort did was unusual or "deserving" of it, and when it does happen both teams know a line was crossed. What Trenin did is what can lead to fighting being banned.


There was nothing similar in that fight. Kuraly had a late attempt at the same time they hit the ice, which happens in many fights, but he was letting up and both players knew when to quit. Trenin got a bullseye in so late the linemen was already holding back Forbort.

Yeah most of the comments here just shows caveman mentality of some HFboard posters. Comparing Forbort punching Trenin who was losing balance with no interference versus Forbort getting punched with his hands tied by the refs is not the same thing but people here love to compare apples and oranges and call it the same thing lol.

 

[jackjohnson]

Trenin was literally on his hands and knees on the ice, and Forbort was punching down at him. It was a gutless act by Forbort and absolutely deserving of a shot back. It’s unfortunate Forbort got hurt, but it’s ridiculous to pretend like he wasn’t the one who started throwing punches at a guy who was down just because Trenin managed to get up and return the favour. If anything, if Forbort would have had some class and just wrestled Trenin down when he was on the ice, Trenin wouldn’t have even been in the position to throw another. But instead, he had to try and get some free shots in, and paid for it

Trenin was not on his hands and knees on the ice, he lost balance and punches would be expected. You don't expect a punch when the ref holds your hand preventing you to defend yourself from a punch to the face. When there is no interference and both players are on their skates, then its a fair fight. Its not fair to have someone tie your hands while the other player on top is punching you clean right in the face. How can you compare these two, its crazy to even think they are similar scenarios.

 

[cjm502]

He need some milk

 

[jackjohnson]

The only suspension that should be coming is for the Vancouver player that was on the bench and he used his stick to hit the Minnesota player on the ice.

Yeah that would be the typical NHL mentality. Don't suspend the guy that made a sucker punch and broke a guy's orbital bone but suspended a player that grazed his stick on Trenin's butt. Maybe should file for sexual assault too.

 

[jackjohnson]

Forbort got his medicine. He went looking for Trenin as he was going to the bench for a change away from the play after a shift where Trenin hit Hughes clean which Forbort felt was something he couldn’t let stand in a game that allows body checks.

Forbort takes several swings at Trenin who was in a vulnerable position himself. Roles become reversed and Trenin lands one.

Seek out stupid games, win stupid prizes. Not the first time Forbort has acted like a clown, just received consequences this time.

Only chicken shit, dirty play here was the Nucks player who tries to spear someone from the bench. Par for the course though.

You would make a great lawyer for criminals. Make it sound like Trenin was some hero that got victimized when we clearly see Trenin throwing dirty hits out there where Hoglander dodged one and he whined about it and then throws a late hit on Hughes who is untoucheable. Then breaks Forborts orbital bone on a late sucker punch after the ref tied up Forbort's hand. Then you think Blueger's stick grazing Trenin's butt is very dirty. That love tap didn't even hurt Trenin.

 

[ToDavid]

Feels like the only reason people are talking about this is because of the injury. This happens in nearly every fight. Someone always tries to get an extra shot or two in before the officials jump on them.

Forbort himself threw two punches while Trenin was falling and unable to defend himself. The first one maybe he gets the benefit of the doubt that it's in the flow of the fight. The second one Trenin is clearly down on his hands and knees, but Forbort missed and got the shoulder.

He got one back and unfortunately got the worst of it.

 

[Mattb124]

When was the last time you saw a pk

DOPS already said no punishment for this

Lucky spin on the wheel for Trenin. Guess it will now result in a Canuck attempting to injure him next time they play, because this is a neanderthal game

When was the last time you saw a player get a suspension for a fight? No luck involved, just some delusional fans.

 

[MakoSlade]

This really looks like something that should be handled by the Vancouver Canucks at a future date. No need for DoPS.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Then you think Blueger's stick grazing Trenin's butt is very dirty. That love tap didn't even hurt Trenin.

Intention matters and DOPS takes spearing seriously.

 

[Sensatauro]

Its honestly a hilarious bit to accuse others of being morally righteous who you say “don’t know about the real world”.

Like how do you miss the irony in that statement?

Oh look it's the mirror echo of the very type of folks I spoke of in my post

Well played sir.

 

[cowboy82nd]

Yeah that would be the typical NHL mentality. Don't suspend the guy that made a sucker punch and broke a guy's orbital bone but suspended a player that grazed his stick on Trenin's butt. Maybe should file for sexual assault too.

Players on the bench should not be interfering with anything or anyone on the ice.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Oh look it's the mirror echo of the very type of folks I spoke of in my post

Well played sir.

I beg to differ. The fence of immunity you’ve constructed to shield yourself from hypocrisy is quite solid. Well played TO YOU!

 

[The Nuge]

Trenin was not on his hands and knees on the ice, he lost balance and punches would be expected. You don't expect a punch when the ref holds your hand preventing you to defend yourself from a punch to the face. When there is no interference and both players are on their skates, then its a fair fight. Its not fair to have someone tie your hands while the other player on top is punching you clean right in the face. How can you compare these two, its crazy to even think they are similar scenarios.

He literally was. The fact you’re even trying to deny he was on his hands and knees shows pretty clear bias

 

[Filthy Dangles]

That's on the officials.

They should have been in there to break it up.

 

[tarheelhockey]

What Trenin did is what can lead to fighting being banned.

See, I think we’ve actually gone through this process before and it’s the attempt to contain stuff like this that ends up with fighting being banned.

For a long stretch of time, hockey fights were no-holds-barred streetfights. There were no rules other than not breaking the law itself. On the odd case that a true stickfight broke out or a ref/cop got punched, the league would step in to keep the courts from needing to intervene.

Then we get to the early 1970s and hockey starts expanding again, and we get a bunch of owners who want the games to be a blood sport. And that actually does land a bunch of players and coaches in legal trouble, because pro hockey is not in fact a professional fighting sport. They do away with the dirty stuff and try to make it a respectable thing for two grown men to roll around on the ground beating the shit out of each other over a game.

Of course that just leads to professionalized fighting in the 80s, where you get players who are out there solely for the sake of starting shit with the other team. So by the early 90s they try to have their cake and eat it too, with the instigator rule and the “code” supposedly allowing the players to police themselves. And what we get are show-pony fights between guys who don’t have any other function than to cruise around looking for trouble with their counterpart on the other team.

This all climaxes in the early 2000s when everything’s so ritualized that fights are literally staged, pre-scheduled sideshows between designated fighters for no purpose and with no real animosity. And guess what — the law gets involved again because of what happens to a designated fighter’s brain when their literal job is to get punched in the head all the time.

And so the league starts rolling it back even more, still unwilling to call a spade a spade. Now players have to keep their helmets and visors on, and there’s no fighting in garbage time, and they’re broken up midway through the fight if they’re not actively swinging, and they give each other a nice pat on the butt when they’re finished.

And now here we are in the 2020s. The goons are gone, fights barely happen anymore, and the only fights left are the ones where guys really genuinely want to knock the shit out of each other. So the “code” goes out the window and guys are at risk of getting hurt.

I for one don’t think more fine-tuned rules are the solution here. We’ve been doing that for 50 years. It’s time to just decide if this is even part of the game any more, and if so treat it with the same rules as fighting in any other sport. Don’t swing if you aren’t ready to get swung on. The rest takes care of itself.

 

[604]

Forbort should have kept his hands up.

How could he? The linesman was already on him.

 

[Sensatauro]

I beg to differ. The fence of immunity you’ve constructed to shield yourself from hypocrisy is quite solid. Well played TO YOU!

Of course you beg to differ. The deflection is the reflection. But that's the great thing about life, everyone's entitled to their opinions, whether they are factual or delusional. Do keep going though with the moral high ground though. You continue to prove my point. Cheers bud!

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Of course you beg to differ. The deflection is the reflection. But that's the great thing about life, everyone's entitled to their opinions, whether they are factual or delusional. Do keep going though with the moral high ground though. You continue to prove my point. Cheers bud!

You know I agree with your opinion about the actual topic in this thread, right?

 

[herashak]

Redeeming factor for Trenin is that it was a clean hit on Hughes, and Forbert wasn’t exactly fighting clean either, give him a max fine since it’s pocket change for these guys