Yakov Trenin breaks Derek Forbort's orbital bone while prone

[Sensatauro]

Since you brought Rempe up. It's interesting that he got 8 games for a hit on Heiskanen who missed a shift or two and wasn't injured and here is Trenin breaking Forbort's orbital bone and Parros decides that's okay.

I know Parros is trying to send Rempe a message but there are others who he can message too. When it comes to his judgements there really is no rhyme or reason......and it's been that way ever since DPS came into existence.

Read my prior post just above.

This take ís spoken with such certain moral certainty, yet has zero basis in fact.

Comparing oranges to apples because they're both fruit isn't the cool point you thought we're making.

 

[DJN21]

you guys gotta get it together. Trenin on his feet and spinning during a fight is fair game. What Trenin did was bullshit. And again I like Trenin. Anyone justifying this is grasping at straws at best. Hopeful healing to Forbort and move on I guess.

 

[Ulysses31]

broke my orbital once, wasnt funny

 

[Ulysses31]

if i had to guess, 1 of those punches probably landed good on trenin and he started seeing red

would bet trenin regrets it now

 

[eviohh26]

Well I guess it's all good to punch a guy when he is down. Hope more players do it.

 

[Spawn]

Well I guess it's all good to punch a guy when he is down. Hope more players do it.

Players have always done it.

Hell, Forbert threw a couple punches while Trenin was on his knees. Trenin gets back up and also hits Forbert when he’s down

If people want fighting in hockey they need to accept that injuries like this are going to happen.

 

[Chainshot]

Video of the cheapshot:

An event set off when the coker was running Barrasso earlier in the game and Maguire decided to do it back to the Wings' tender.

 

[majormajor]

Punching players when they are down should result in suspensions. It isn't necessary at all to maintain the institution of fighting. Just stupid dangerous with no benefit.

 

[jackjohnson]

This league needs to decide where it stands on fighting. You can’t have soft penalties for this stuff and then clutch your pearls when a guy gets hurt during a fistfight.

If thats the case then we can just use sticks too to decapitate a guy's head since it seems like street fighting is allowed in NHL. Even in boxing the ref breaks up the fight when the guy hits the mat or UFC has rules that doesn't allow punching to the back of the head. Why should NHL have a free for all when a fight starts. Again its a mickey mouse league with mickey mouse rules. Besides, this is hockey not some underground blood sport where one guy can kill another guy and get some money. Forbort has suffered a broken orbital bone and maybe a concussion. His career could change because of some stupid punch by Trenin thinking he is playing tough by cowardly throwing a punch against a defenseless player on ice. Not even Reaves goes to that extent.

 

[jackjohnson]

Punching players when they are down should result in suspensions. It isn't necessary at all to maintain the institution of fighting. Just stupid dangerous with no benefit.

I agree. Not sure what some fans want around here, I guess they are okay a player's career ends because some dude thinks he is iron mike and wants to kill another player. Trenin is complete trash, tries throwing a dirty hit on Hoglander and fails, then hits Quinn Hughes late to prove something and now this stupid garbage. I think he will need to watch his back next season when he faces Canucks, hopefully we get some tough guy that will want to beat up Trenin just to prove a point.

 

[FMichael]

Forbort threw two punches he shouldn’t have, and Trenton threw one he shouldn’t have

Neither worth a suspension in my view

Yeah - sometimes you choose to engage in fisticuffs things don’t work out the way you want them to…

 

[604]

Big issue for me is that the linesman is on Forbort. Why jump on the guy who’s on his back while the other guy is standing? …linesman 53 is slow to jump in.

 

[FMichael]

I think this is where I'm at with it. Forbort threw a couple late, so I understand why Trenin kept going, too.

That’s what I see too…Just that Trenin’s last punch just so happened to do some damage so the DOPS needs to intervene which I don’t think is necessary.

 

[God]

Forbort throwing punches at Trenin while they're fighting and Trenin falls to his knees is not nearly the same as what Trenin did. It's a routine thing that happens.

The problem with Trenin throwing a punch at Forbort while he's down is that the refs have already stepped in to separate both players, and they've pinned Forbort down as well. He's defenseless on the ice. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

 

[jackjohnson]

Since you brought Rempe up. It's interesting that he got 8 games for a hit on Heiskanen who missed a shift or two and wasn't injured and here is Trenin breaking Forbort's orbital bone and Parros decides that's okay.

I know Parros is trying to send Rempe a message but there are others who he can message too. When it comes to his judgements there really is no rhyme or reason......and it's been that way ever since DPS came into existence.

Its pathetic honestly. Trenin should be suspended. Since he won't be suspended it will only make Canucks take note and have a goon throw some dirty hit on him and knock him out. I guess if NHL doesn't want to police the league teams will need some goons like Rempe to come in and give out some justice. Too bad the Canucks didn't have one this season to deter dirty hits on Hughes and other players. Alvin needs to address this, otherwise we will keep having a roster of half injured players through out the season.

 

[jackjohnson]

Forbort throwing punches at Trenin while they're fighting and Trenin falls to his knees is not nearly the same as what Trenin did. It's a routine thing that happens.

The problem with Trenin throwing a punch at Forbort while he's down is that the refs have already stepped in to separate both players, and they've pinned Forbort down as well. He's defenseless on the ice. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

The fact that Trenin punches the ice, then reloads after the ref has gotten between him and Forbort to separate the fight is very dirty. DoPS is a complete clown show for not suspending Trenin. When a refs separate both players or try to, you should stop punching. This is the rule in UFC and boxing, but I guess NHL is too advanced for those rules and supports underground blood sport fighting.

 

[FMichael]

Forbort throwing punches at Trenin while they're fighting and Trenin falls to his knees is not nearly the same as what Trenin did. It's a routine thing that happens.

The problem with Trenin throwing a punch at Forbort while he's down is that the refs have already stepped in to separate both players, and they've pinned Forbort down as well. He's defenseless on the ice. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

While sitting at home and watching it all unfold in slow motion is 1 thing - partaking in a heated bout of fisticuffs is another.

Sure - one could make an argument about how dirty it was, but since both were willing combatants and Forbort got in a few on Trenin while he was off balance - I could understand why Trenin wanted to get that 1 last shot in .

Unfortunate but it happens.

 

[jackjohnson]

Some of you people really have no idea about the real world, and just shout from some morally righteous place.

In real time, you could see, Forbort was throwing punches as Trenin was off balance and falling down on all fours. In a matter of a second, less then, he on instinct, defends himself punching the very guy trying to do the EXACT same thing to him less then a second ago.

Unfortunate injury for Forbort, he's a tough guy, and will be just fine. The consequences of his own actions.

The dirtiest thing ever seen in the game? Rick Tocchet "agrees" Rick Tocchet did some insanely dirty shit in his time hitting vulnerable folks.

Get off your high horse.

Real world actions have real world consequences.

When both are standing up and punching, that is fine. Forbort was punching a still standing Trenin with no ref in between. So what if Trenin was losing his balance? Thats how all hockey fights are, someone loses balance and the fight ends. The problem is the ref is on top of Forbort, in between the two and Trenin still throws a punch against Forbort who can't defend himself. Its very different, I can't believe I have to explain this to you.

 

[jackjohnson]

While sitting at home and watching it all unfold in slow motion is 1 thing - partaking in a heated bout of fisticuffs is another.

Sure - one could make an argument about how dirty it was, but since both were willing combatants and Forbort got in a few on Trenin while he was off balance - I could understand why Trenin wanted to get that 1 last shot in .

Unfortunate but it happens.

Losing balance happens and you should expect a punch, why not. No refs in between and fighting is allowed. People are talking about a guy laying down on the ice and defenseless while the other guy keeps punching. That is dirty and is not legal based on the NHL rulebook.

 

[aylib]

Had Forbort not thrown when he shouldn’t have—it would have probably been different.

 

[God]

While sitting at home and watching it all unfold in slow motion is 1 thing - partaking in a heated bout of fisticuffs is another.

Sure - one could make an argument about how dirty it was, but since both were willing combatants and Forbort got in a few on Trenin while he was off balance - I could understand why Trenin wanted to get that 1 last shot in .

Unfortunate but it happens.

Once again, being off balance happens in a fight and it's fine to throw in that case. It's within reasonable etiquette.

This isn't a case of a guy going for a hit and having like 0.5-1 second to readjust and not hit a guy's head. Trenin has time to not throw that punch because he misses the first one when Forbort's on the ice, then goes for another one - all while the refs are already on him.

 

[jackjohnson]

There is a reason why refs tell combat sport athletes to protect themselves at all times

cant protect yourself when the refs tie you down and you are laying on the ice. How can Forbort defend himself with another 200lbs man on top of you and you can't raise your arm to block a punch from some block head that wants to give you one last cheap shot. He even had time to think about it when he punched the ice and reloaded for one more punch putting all his weight into that punch. I don't think people know how dirty that is, its not even allowed in boxing if we go by boxing rules.

 

[Spawn]

Losing balance happens and you should expect a punch, why not. No refs in between and fighting is allowed. People are talking about a guy laying down on the ice and defenseless while the other guy keeps punching. That is dirty and is not legal based on the NHL rulebook.

Fighting isn’t legal based on the NHL rulebook.

I would love to see where in the rulebook that it distinguishes punching someone in the face being allowed when the ref isn’t in the way vs it not being allowed when the ref is in the way.

Sucks someone got hurt. But players punching others while the other guy is on the ice or tied up by a ref is an occurrence as old as time.

 

[jackjohnson]

Had Forbort not thrown when he shouldn’t have—it would have probably been different.

Had Trenin not throw a late dirty hit on Hughes, it wouldn't happen either. You guys say Canucks are soft when no one defends Hughes, and when someone does, you say he should not have fought Trenin. So what is it? Maybe next season Canucks can sign a goon similar to Rempe and just let him go nuts since NHL doesn't even abide by their own rules. The rulebook clearly identifies Trenin as an aggressor in this case. The players also need to have some common sense and stop punching when the other guy is tied up with the refs and can't even defend himself. This is not a blood sport, its hockey.

 

[FMichael]

Losing balance happens and you should expect a punch, why not. No refs in between and fighting is allowed. People are talking about a guy laying down on the ice and defenseless while the other guy keeps punching. That is dirty and is not legal based on the NHL rulebook.

Not sure if I’d say fighting is ‘legal’ as it’s tolerated and punishable with time in the pen box, fines, and suspensions.

Trenin appears to have gotten 1 punch in as Forbot is deemed defenseless…Not the 1st time and won’t be the last that this happens, but again things look worse when slowed down and not seen in real time heat of the moment speed.