Bobby Orrtuzzo
Ya know
Yet half our fan base whines about him constantly lmaoBlues GM knows how to get hauls for his guys.
Yet half our fan base whines about him constantly lmaoBlues GM knows how to get hauls for his guys.
Yah even though i dont like this trade, this does make them a better team with a deep deep forward group in the short term.You, like a lot of other posters have no idea what the Caps are right now.
They were 2nd in the NHL in 2025, and then 7th or 8th in wins this past season (despite not making the playoffs).
Adding Kyrou, Cole Hutson, potentially Ilya Protas and another breakthrough for Leonard and the Caps are a much better team going into 2026/27 than they were the last 2 years
Kyrou was a soft lazy baby and Buch seems to be in debt or something cuz he like to throw games awayWhat happened in st louis? Why did kyrou turn to crap and what went on with thomas this year that made the blues want to shop him around? Why has buchnevich turned to crap?
On paper st louis should have a great group of forwards.
hes a lazy soft player who cares more about fortnite than winning. one of the worst defensive players i have ever seen and gets worse offensively every year.What happened in st louis? Why did kyrou turn to crap and what went on with thomas this year that made the blues want to shop him around? Why has buchnevich turned to crap?
On paper st louis should have a great group of forwards.
NJDs comp to this would have probably been 12th overall+Mercer probably. Or 2027 1st+Mercer+CaseyI had him going to the NJD also.
But I guess once Nemec moved, there was no longer the primary trade chip for that to work any more.
This is the first time the Caps have traded their 1st since 2021, and they also have the 18th overall from trading Carlson.Trading first round picks like pokemon trading cards is absolutely dangerous.
Win now move for Washington. Yeah. They're totally ready to win now..
Ovechkin has this weird distortion effect where everyone outside of DC assumes that because Ovie's old everyone around him is too. This is the Caps' core right now:I don't understand it from Wash POV. They moved Carlsson out and Ovy is a free agent. Their cup team save for Wilson is basically all but gone. Not sure why they moved a 25 year old C, plus Gastrin and a 1st for a 28 year old winger who has fallen out of favour of 2 good HC in Berube and Monty.
They are in a very good position to contend again and have multiple bluechip prospects ready to make an impact.
This is the first time the Caps have traded their 1st since 2021, and they also have the 18th overall from trading Carlson.
Ovechkin has this weird distortion effect where everyone outside of DC assumes that because Ovie's old everyone around him is too. This is the Caps' core right now:
Tom Wilson - 32
Matt Roy - 31
Logan Thompson - 29
Dylan Strome - 29
Jakob Chychrun - 28
Jordan Kyrou - 28
Pierre-Luc Dubois - 27
Martin Fehervary - 26
Rasmus Sandin - 26
Aliaksei Protas - 25
Justin Sourdif - 24
Ryan Leonard - 21
Cole Hutson - 19
Ilya Protas - 19
The Caps aren't an old team. They were the best regular season team in the East two years ago, and one of the best teams ever to miss the playoffs in an injury-riddled season this year. They're not about to enter a rebuild.
NJDs comp to this would have probably been 12th overall+Mercer probably. Or 2027 1st+Mercer+Casey
Mercer vs McMichael
12th vs 16th+Gastrin
My offer personally I would have done was 12th+44th+3rd rounder, so I can see how 12th+3rd=16th+Gastrin, and 44th overall falls short to McMichael.
I think I've gotta start bumping up every star veteran player offer this offseason by a late 1st or an early 2nd.
I had Tkachuk as 9th+Samoskekvich, and he got an additional 2030 1st.
And here my Kyrou offer seems to be short by about an early 2nd/late 1st of value
That's a pretty dang good package for a guy it felt like they didn't want.
Thomas, Broberg, Holloway, Snuggerud, Stenberg, Dvorsky, Carbonneau and Jiricek is a good young core. 11, 15, and 16 is a lot of draft capital that I really like the top 15 or so. Got to think Parayko, Suter, Biddington, and Fowler will bring in more assets. They could add Belchetz, Gustafsson, and Hemming. Buch is a nice veteran to keep around as well, but I think he'd get a nice return.
If the Blues put themselves into position for a high lotto pick next year- let alone a lotto win- they could become a powerhouse rather quickly. How often does you rebuild have a top pairing d-man, #1 C, a couple top 6 wingers and one of the best C prospects in the league (Dvorsky) before it really even starts.
Imagine if they get Dupont, Joseph, or Privalov. Scary.
That's a pretty dang good package for a guy it felt like they didn't want.
Thomas, Broberg, Holloway, Snuggerud, Stenberg, Dvorsky, Carbonneau and Jiricek is a good young core. 11, 15, and 16 is a lot of draft capital that I really like the top 15 or so. Got to think Parayko, Suter, Biddington, and Fowler will bring in more assets. They could add Belchetz, Gustafsson, and Hemming. Buch is a nice veteran to keep around as well, but I think he'd get a nice return.
If the Blues put themselves into position for a high lotto pick next year- let alone a lotto win- they could become a powerhouse rather quickly. How often does you rebuild have a top pairing d-man, #1 C, a couple top 6 wingers and one of the best C prospects in the league (Dvorsky) before it really even starts.
Imagine if they get Dupont, Joseph, or Privalov. Scary.
Yeah fair enough. I'm making the comp based on what STL ended up getting.I'm pretty sure that the Blues would rather have had Nemec + a smaller piece.
I don't think the 12th and Nemec are really comparable assets, at least to the Blues' needs.
Great trade and a win-win. Does this make Larkin consider Washington?
Strome, 18OA and a prospect for Larkin…
aProtas-Larkin-Kyrou
iProtas-PLD-Wilson
Ovie-Sourdif-Leonard
That’s a legit top-9.
You, like a lot of other posters have no idea what the Caps are right now.
They were 2nd in the NHL in 2025, and then 7th or 8th in wins this past season (despite not making the playoffs).
Adding Kyrou, Cole Hutson, potentially Ilya Protas and another breakthrough for Leonard and the Caps are a much better team going into 2026/27 than they were the last 2 years
What do you have to offer for Parayko?
Honestly, once he's dealt, our off-season work is more or less complete.
Have the majority of the non Caps fans in this thread even looked at the Caps roster in the last season? We are VERY close to contending again with a really great mix of youth and players entering their prime. We aren't a bunch of dinosaurs anymore. Great move and both teams benefit here imo.And I've been really pissed at our lack of activity the last 2 seasons, but this is hopefully the first domino.You, like a lot of other posters have no idea what the Caps are right now.
They were 2nd in the NHL in 2025, and then 7th or 8th in wins this past season (despite not making the playoffs).
Adding Kyrou, Cole Hutson, potentially Ilya Protas and another breakthrough for Leonard and the Caps are a much better team going into 2026/27 than they were the last 2 years
Yeah fair enough. I'm making the comp based on what STL ended up getting.
16th overall as the centerpiece. NJDs 12th overall being higher eats up Gastrin.
Then a middle 6 24-25 year old around 0.5 ppg who's better suited to the wing in Mercer and McMichael. McMichael a bit more productive, mercer has that last RFA year and is a year younger.
Nemec ended up getting by my calculation 9th overall of value if you want to sub that in is probably Nemec+2nd+3rd?
Never watched hockey before huh?Blues win the trade. Connor Mcmicheal is better than Kyrou lol