Blue Jays Discussion: Would rather get punched in May than knocked out in October - ALCS bound!

[BayStreetBully]

They use Miller at critical points in the game instead of just saving him for the 9th inning.

Francona is using Miller to get through the 3rd time of the order, basically making it a 6 inning game for teams because Allen is really good himself and Miller has shown he can be stretched out a bit. It is really smart.

Thanks. I was just wondering if it would've been more beneficial to use him for the 8th and 9th if you wanted to stretch him out, rather than the 6th and 7th, or 7th and 8th. I suppose Allen had the seniority too.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Thanks. I was just wondering if it would've been more beneficial to use him for the 8th and 9th if you wanted to stretch him out, rather than the 6th and 7th, or 7th and 8th. I suppose Allen had the seniority too.

A lot of the times the 7th and 8th are the highest leverage innings really. Those are the innings where your starter starts to slow down and let runners on so in theory it makes sense to bring in your best guy to get you out of those scenarios opposed to bringing him in for a "easy" 3 out save with nobody on in the 9th. Obviously you still need a pitcher you trust quite a bit for the 9th which they have along with a manager that isn't completely old school.

 

[theaub]

Times confirmed for first three games

8 PM Friday
4 PM Saturday
8 PM Monday

 

[HamiltonNHL]

http://www.thescore.com/mlb/events/58935/box_score

OCT 14 8:08 PM PROBABLE STARTERS

#25 Marco Estrada (9-9) 176.0 IP 3.48 ERA 1.12 WHIP 65 BB 165 K
#28 Corey Kluber (18-9) 215.0 IP 3.14 ERA 1.06 WHIP 57 BB 227 K

Kluber
HEIGHT / WEIGHT 6' 4" / 215 lbs BIRTHDATE 1986-04-10 (30) BIRTHPLACE Birmingham, Alabama, United States DEBUT SEASON '11 BATS/THROWS Right

 

[Leaftors]

is it friday yet?

 

[lebdafor norris]

It will be really interesting to see how Martin handles Cleveland's speed in the series.

 

[habamillions]

It will be really interesting to see how Martin handles Cleveland's speed in the series.

Dont let anyone on base. lol

 

[HamiltonNHL]

It will be really interesting to see how Martin handles Cleveland's speed in the series.

He won't be throwing them out at second that is for sure.

 

[King Mapes]

Judging everything I read it seems like they play similar to the 2015 Royals. Is that accurate?

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Judging everything I read it seems like they play similar to the 2015 Royals. Is that accurate?

Yep.
Lots of get on base and steal.
I'm sure that is their strategy against Martin.

 

[Ropesman]

Does anyone know it martins split finger is on his catching or throwing hand? Wondering if the cut will have any impact on is ability to throw potential base stealers out,

 

[Scrub*]

Does anyone know it martins split finger is on his catching or throwing hand? Wondering if the cut will have any impact on is ability to throw potential base stealers out,

It was on his pinky finger for his throwing hand , shouldn't effect throwing at all really although he has caught less base stealers than last year.

 

[hockeywiz542]

– the jays plan to make a play long-term for star first baseman/dh edwin encarnacion, and will give give both him and longtime right field star jose bautista a qualifying offer (assuming the new cba still has a provision for qualifying offers). the jays offered encarnacion a concept of two years plus two option years this spring (with the idea of maybe getting to three years), but encarnacion’s big year is expected to spur the jays to be willing to do something more competitive – though no one expects them to blow him away and no one will be surprised if he leaves for greener pastures.

there is a belief around baseball he’ll get four years (at least) as a free agent, and that’s something the jays might consider, though they’d prefer three. Someone familiar with their thinking said they’d like him to be a “bridge†to their kids down below.

encarnacion was believed, at least this spring, willing to consider a “hometown discount,†though it’s not known if that’s still the case.

as for bautista, while there’s been speculation the team might not even extend the qualifying offer, insiders say there’s no way the mark shapiro-ross atkins regime would pass up the opportunity to win an extra draft choice, and their belief is that bautista – who sought $150 million-plus this spring – wouldn’t take the one-year offer. some say bautista makes extra money with his long-time toronto ties, so it may not be such a terrible idea for him to take the one-year qualifying offer, which is expected to be for about $17 million, but he’d likely figure there’s a multiyear deal out there for him somewhere.

– just to clarify one point in the alex anthopoulos-shapiro column from monday crediting them for building a superior team before they parted ways, the one-year offer to keep anthopoulos came earlier, and shapiro offered him two years plus two option years (the same on term as the encarnacion deal, though not dollars) before team owner edward rogers stepped in after anthopoulos didn’t immediately take it with shapiro’s blessing. That’s when rogers offered a firm $10 million over five years.

 

[Brown Dog]

It's encouraging that the Jays are looking to make a competitive offer to Edwin. I get the sense he'd prefer to remain a Jay and I would like to see him finish his career as one.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Too many days between games

 

[ShaneFalco]

Do they go with one less arm in the 'pen and add Pompey to the roster?

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Is it really news that the Jays are going to give EE a good offer ?

 

[zeke]

Is it really news that the Jays are going to give EE a good offer ?

er, yes?

 

[Discoverer]

I don't think it's at all surprising. There was plenty of reason not to sign him to a big contract in the spring in case he had a down season and the contract looked bad right away (see: Bautista, Jose), but I fully expected them to revisit negotiations in the offseason.

 

[zeke]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/torontos-advantage-against-cleveland/

great little article here about how Cleveland has built their offense on hitting breaking balls this year, but struggled badly against fastballs.

noting that the Jays' rotation is primarily a fastball-based rotation.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

It's gotten to the point for me that the Jays should tell Edwin they'll match any free agent offer that's out there. Especially if it's Boston's.

Of course, that's under the premise it's not something stupid like $30 million a year for five/six years.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Is it really news that the Jays are going to give EE a good offer ?

Shouldn't be
I just don't know if they'll match what the Red Sox will give him, and loyalty 9/10 goes out the window when money is involved

 

[zeke]

I am glad everyone is now on board with the Jays giving EE a fair market value contract offer this offseason.

 

[Eb]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/torontos-advantage-against-cleveland/

great little article here about how Cleveland has built their offense on hitting breaking balls this year, but struggled badly against fastballs.

noting that the Jays' rotation is primarily a fastball-based rotation.

Good article, thanks.

Always continue to be more surprised on what they track in the MLB. Launch angles tracked by pitches, lol.

 

[Sokil]

Shapiro really messed up when he bet against Edwin and that he would put in a sub-$20m performance this year.