Value of: Would Any Team Take Huberdeau @ 5.25M Per Season?

TheNumber4

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Flames should trade for Duclair and see what happens. He’s just sitting there in San Jose looking to get picked up. Send a 1st and save your franchise player (hopefully).
 

Bond

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Flames should trade for Duclair and see what happens. He’s just sitting there in San Jose looking to get picked up. Send a 1st and save your franchise player (hopefully).
Oiler's fans getting bolder now that aren't in 29th place lol
 

Cup or Bust

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I know its easy in hindsight to say that the Flames should have focused on maximizing futures on the Tkachuk deal and on rebuilding the core when both he and Gaudreau decided to leave but I felt that the right time to do it. No one really could have predicted how much Huberdeau's play would decline once he came to the Flames though. It certainly looked like they could maintain their competitiveness after dealing for him and signing Kadri but what a disaster it has been thus far.
 
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JPeeper

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I know its easy in hindsight to say that the Flames should have focused on maximizing futures on the Tkachuk deal and on rebuilding the core when both he and Gaudreau decided to leave but I felt that the right time to do it. No one really could have predicted how much Huberdeau's play would decline once he came to the Flames though. It certainly looked like they could maintain their competitiveness after dealing for him and signing Kadri but what a disaster it has been thus far.

I'd say 90%+ of Flames fans wanted this to happen, instead Treliving gave Monahan away with a first for nothing to sign an overaged Kadri to a whack contract and threw the biggest contract in Flames history to someone who never dressed one game for the Flames (Huberdeau). Kadri has at least been fine for most of his contract so far, he quit on the team last year, but he's been fine this year and has really helped Zary which is very valuable because I don't think many of us thought Zary would be this good.

The best thing to come out of that awful off season was getting Weegar, guy is very good and signed to a good contract going forward.

It's year 1 into Huberdeau's contract and it's clear he wants out already which is impossible for a multitude of reasons. Honestly, if he is just going to eat 1/9th of our cap, not contribute, make us worse by being a complete ghost 80% of the time it only helps a re-build.

Half the Flames wins are 3rd period comebacks, roster wise they are a bottom 5 maybe even bottom 3 team when if and when we ship our UFA's out.
 

SeanMoneyHands

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I'd like to see him in Colorado on MacKinnon's wing. They would be dynamic.

Huberdeau - MacKinnon - Rantanen.

Wow
 

McSuper

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Fans of other teams like to bash a team when they are down. See some of the Oilers threads. Also see my posting I predicted Edmonton would take about 20 games to hit 500 and I was a little off, but all the haters are gone. Now we getting fan bashing the Flames. I don't get this. When Calgary had the floods people from Edmonton were there to help. Alberta is the best province and hockey shouldn't create bitter enemies between these 2 cities.

For Flames fans just know when you get hot all the bashers will run and hide. As for the OP every GM in the NHL would take Huberdeau at 50% contrary to what fans on here say.

Good luck in the future unless you play the Oilers. No hate just an Oiler fans who knows more about having a losing team than most on here.
 
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McSuper

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The NHL can't just change the rules. Everything must be collectively bargained. The NHLPA would never agree to it without massive compensation.
There no reason to have gaurantee contracts. A player demands a big contract find but you better produce at a rate that is fair for your contract. I love the NFL for that.
 

GAGLine

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There no reason to have gaurantee contracts. A player demands a big contract find but you better produce at a rate that is fair for your contract. I love the NFL for that.
You say that as a fan. You wouldn't say that as a player.

The NFL has guaranteed money in signing and roster bonuses. They can be cut before some of those bonuses kick in, but with the big money guys, it's never a clean break. The team always ends up owing something, though it's generally less punitive than NHL buyouts.

If contracts in the NHL weren't guaranteed, you'd see even more contracts where most of the money is in signing bonuses (the guaranteed part). So you'd still be on the hook if you cut the player and even a buyout won't help you.

The thing I want to see is teams having the ability to pay off future cap penalties with unused cap space. If a team buys out a player and incurs a cap hit of 2 mil for 2 years as a result, then finishes the first year with 2 mil in unused cap space, they should be able to use that cap space to pay off the cap penalty for the following year.

I'd also like for teams to have the ability to trade cap penalties from buyouts and retained transactions. That one gets a little more complicated because it can affect the money that the player is getting due to tax differences, but it can work in the player's favor at times, so the NHLPA might not fight it too hard.

Simple changes like that would make the system far more flexible.
 

HuGort

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Has would, they'd have a marketable QC player.
Huberdeau is going to be worst contract in NHL history. That's going to kill Flames a few years from now.Last 5 years at 19.5m is brutal.

Habs would need big to take that on. Flames need to retain 3 million or so. Take Gallagher back, Price also to equal out the money. Probably give Montreal Flames top pick in this draft. It needs to be steep.
 
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