World Junior no shows - updated

[JackSlater]

2022 - The fans

Sad but true.

Sanderson is rehabbing an injury I believe

Seems true, though this article says that he should be finished mid-August.

Sanderson being patient with hand injury in effort to make Senators

 

[PaulD]

Yea. The fans.

 

[JackSlater]

I've updated the thread for 2023. I believe that this edition of the tournament has the fewest missing players due to the NHL since the lockout in 2013. There are a few murky situations like Edvinsson and Kasper, but I'm going to classify them as refusals and not players who were withheld based on what I've read. If I've missed any players from this year or any others let me know.

 

[Czechboy]

This is an awesome list you maintain! So frsutrating to always look back and see that the Czechs rarely had a 1st round talent after 2005 but, when we did, they didn't play.lol Hemsky, Voracek, M. Michalek, Chytil, Zacha and for a nation with a limitied pool those injuries hurt!

Slovakia in summer was an atrocity! I felt so bad for them. Having said that.. not sure if Ondrej Molnar fits the criteria of a 'no show'. If he does please include a footnote:

Slovakia - Ondrej Molnar (floorball)

I also thought Slovakia was missing 3 guys.. and not sure if the 3 Swedish D qualify but they are missing some key ones!

 

[Czechboy]

fewest missing players

I think you're right. What's interesting is that this tourney does not have a 2005 type vibe at all. Most nations have their best rosters available (within reason) and this feels like a relatively tame tourney going in.

 

[JackSlater]

This is an awesome list you maintain! So frsutrating to always look back and see that the Czechs rarely had a 1st round talent after 2005 but, when we did, they didn't play.lol Hemsky, Voracek, M. Michalek, Chytil, Zacha and for a nation with a limitied pool those injuries hurt!

Slovakia in summer was an atrocity! I felt so bad for them. Having said that.. not sure if Ondrej Molnar fits the criteria of a 'no show'. If he does please include a footnote:

Slovakia - Ondrej Molnar (floorball)

I also thought Slovakia was missing 3 guys.. and not sure if the 3 Swedish D qualify but they are missing some key ones!

A good number of players missing is generally a positive sign for hockey in a country. Look at the Czechs in 1991 with Holik, Reichel, Nedved, and Jagr all missing. A harbinger of things to come when those guys and that generation was in its prime. I know that Sweden has some defencemen missing but other than Edvinsson's debatable case they aren't really suitable for this thread. A list of injured WJC players would be too difficult to pull off both in terms of research and also determining who would have made a WJC team had they been healthy.

I think you're right. What's interesting is that this tourney does not have a 2005 type vibe at all. Most nations have their best rosters available (within reason) and this feels like a relatively tame tourney going in.

It just seems like most rosters at the tournament are pretty underwhelming for whatever reason. The thing that would have built hype massively for this tournament is Russia being involved and a final chance to see Michkov vs. Bedard at this level.

 

[Czechboy]

A good number of players missing is generally a positive sign for hockey in a country. Look at the Czechs in 1991 with Holik, Reichel, Nedved, and Jagr all missing. A harbinger of things to come when those guys and that generation was in its prime. I know that Sweden has some defencemen missing but other than Edvinsson's debatable case they aren't really suitable for this thread. A list of injured WJC players would be too difficult to pull off both in terms of research and also determining who would have made a WJC team had they been healthy.



It just seems like most rosters at the tournament are pretty underwhelming for whatever reason. The thing that would have built hype massively for this tournament is Russia being involved and a final chance to see Michkov vs. Bedard at this level.

That definitely would've been a marketing point from TSN! And I was excited for it. I see Michkov slipping in draft rankings but everytime I saw him play I couldn't help but think NHL Superstar for a decade or more.

 

[ORRFForever]

That definitely would've been a marketing point from TSN! And I was excited for it. I see Michkov slipping in draft rankings but everytime I saw him play I couldn't help but think NHL Superstar for a decade or more.

Is he slipping because of the war or his play?

 

[Czechboy]

Is he slipping because of the war or his play?

Lots of factors from what I can tell but I'm definitely not the expert on this

Playing in MHL and not KHL
Has been injured
Won't come to NHL for a few more years because of his contract (eg. you draft Bedard, he's in the lineup in October.. you draft Michkov and you don't see him for a few seasons but he probably shows up like Kaprizov did and takes over)
HF is more north american oriented and amateurs (like me) don't see him at all because he's not at the big tourneys (eg. I don't give a shit how he does against a Kazakh U20 team) which isn't his fault
The posters that know a lot about prospects get real cranky because the draft rankings should be free of all those factors (eg he should be 1 or 2 in his draft ranking based on his ability but in a mock draft he's probably 3 to 5 based on those factors)

Those are my guesses.

 

[ORRFForever]

Lots of factors from what I can tell but I'm definitely not the expert on this

Playing in MHL and not KHL
Has been injured
Won't come to NHL for a few more years because of his contract (eg. you draft Bedard, he's in the lineup in October.. you draft Michkov and you don't see him for a few seasons but he probably shows up like Kaprizov did and takes over)
HF is more north american oriented and amateurs (like me) don't see him at all because he's not at the big tourneys (eg. I don't give a shit how he does against a Kazakh U20 team) which isn't his fault
The posters that know a lot about prospects get real cranky because the draft rankings should be free of all those factors (eg he should be 1 or 2 in his draft ranking based on his ability but in a mock draft he's probably 3 to 5 based on those factors)

Those are my guesses.

Fair enough and thanks!

 

[JackSlater]

I have updated the thread to reflect those players missing in 2024 to the best of my knowledge. Reminder that injured players don't count in this exercise. As the NHL roster freeze has set in I don't expect any changes regarding players being released.

 

[Hinterland]

No Lian Bichsel for Switzerland.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Sweden, Leo Carlsson and Calle Odelius

 

[JackSlater]

No Lian Bichsel for Switzerland.

As far as I know Bischel is a case where it's openly his decision not to go, not a case where his team is keeping him out. In those situations, which are rare but do happen, the player isn't listed.

Sweden, Leo Carlsson and Calle Odelius

Odelius is injured I believe, not held out by another team.

 

[Czechboy]

What exactly is the reason for no Kemmel?

 

[Reddawg]

What exactly is the reason for no Kemmel?

Nashville was a hard "no" on the subject, apparently.

Why Joakim Kemell Isn’t On Finland’s World Juniors Roster

When Kimmo Oikarinen, the GM of Finland’s Under-20 World Junior team, announced on Tuesday the 25 players competing for a spot on the team’s 23-man roster for the 2024 IIHF World Junior Championship Dec. 26 through Jan. 5, Nashville Predators and Milwaukee Admirals forward prospect Joakim Kemell...

nashvillehockeynow.com

 

[Jared Dunn]

Slaf has been playing well with Suzuki and Caufield but I wish he and Nemec were loaned to Slovakia, would be cool to see them go on a run

 

[Czechboy]

Nashville was a hard "no" on the subject, apparently.

Why Joakim Kemell Isn’t On Finland’s World Juniors Roster

When Kimmo Oikarinen, the GM of Finland’s Under-20 World Junior team, announced on Tuesday the 25 players competing for a spot on the team’s 23-man roster for the 2024 IIHF World Junior Championship Dec. 26 through Jan. 5, Nashville Predators and Milwaukee Admirals forward prospect Joakim Kemell...

nashvillehockeynow.com

Hate it when this happens. In the NHL i get it. Kulich is doing better in AHL and is going. Poitras was in the NHL and is going.

 

[Joe Zanussi]

Thanks. I love this list

 

[Reddawg]

Hate it when this happens. In the NHL i get it. Kulich is doing better in AHL and is going. Poitras was in the NHL and is going.

I didn’t realize either of those players had been released, that’s great. Poitras is especially surprising.

 

[Czechboy]

I didn’t realize either of those players had been released, that’s great. Poitras is especially surprising.

I was very surprised... I think he's in for a big tourney and might really help Canada Gondor that third straight (I think) gold.

 

[Reddawg]

I was very surprised... I think he's in for a big tourney and might really help Canada Gondor that third straight (I think) gold.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Poitras begged to go since he didn't make the team last year and Boston said OK

 

[ORRFForever]

Poitras begged to go since he didn't make the team last year and Boston said OK

Really? Good for him.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

So most of these aren’t actually “no shows”? Odd title.