World Junior Championships Thread - Garand, Othmann, Cuylle win GOLD!

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Score didn't reflect the game last night. USA dominated the Swedes for the most part. Tons of 50/50 puck wins and takeaways. USA played a gritty, aggressive game yesterday with everyone involved.

Berard continues to play his game. Huge first goal on the PP to get the team going. He seems to be picking his moments, conserving energy and playing a little more of a smarter, mature game than last year where he was just flat out buzzing around everywhere. I think he will get a shot at the NHL level, but to what degree and longevity is the question.

Really love the Knies kid. Heavy on the body, but can also really handle the puck. Too bad he didnt fall 7 more spots to the Rangers in the 21 draft

That Grubbe pick is brutal enough as it is. Let's not make it worse

 

[RangersFan1994]

Score didn't reflect the game last night. USA dominated the Swedes for the most part. Tons of 50/50 puck wins and takeaways. USA played a gritty, aggressive game yesterday with everyone involved.

Berard continues to play his game. Huge first goal on the PP to get the team going. He seems to be picking his moments, conserving energy and playing a little more of a smarter, mature game than last year where he was just flat out buzzing around everywhere. I think he will get a shot at the NHL level, but to what degree and longevity is the question.

Really love the Knies kid. Heavy on the body, but can also really handle the puck. Too bad he didnt fall 7 more spots to the Rangers in the 21 draft

I really like that Flames pick Matt Coronato the NY kid. He’s gonna be a good NHL player for the Flames if he signs with them. Maybe he wants to play closer to home

 

[rangersfansince08]

I really like that Flames pick Matt Coronato the NY kid. He’s gonna be a good NHL player for the Flames if he signs with them. Maybe he wants to play closer to home

1st rounders so not very likely to do that. Flames fans would hate us forever.

 

[redwhiteandblue]

I'll tell ya what, that Riley Duran kid has been pretty good. Former 6th round pick by the Bruins who is unsigned. Might be worth trying to take a flier on if the Bruins don't love em or he finds is way to UFA.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

With so many NY area kids tearing up the sport I think we need to go back to the old days of teams getting first dibs at local players

 

[rangersfansince08]

With so many NY area kids tearing up the sport I think we need to go back to the old days of teams getting first dibs at local players

Would be awesome to get Zegras in FA or have Coronato tell the Flames to f*** off

 

[gravey9]

Score didn't reflect the game last night. USA dominated the Swedes for the most part. Tons of 50/50 puck wins and takeaways. USA played a gritty, aggressive game yesterday with everyone involved.

Berard continues to play his game. Huge first goal on the PP to get the team going. He seems to be picking his moments, conserving energy and playing a little more of a smarter, mature game than last year where he was just flat out buzzing around everywhere. I think he will get a shot at the NHL level, but to what degree and longevity is the question.

Really love the Knies kid. Heavy on the body, but can also really handle the puck. Too bad he didnt fall 7 more spots to the Rangers in the 21 draft

Agree. It's hard to get a read on Berard. He's either going to be Ryan Bourque, Tyler Motte or Steve Larmer. At least at the juniors level he's been very strong along the wall and on the forecheck. Much of his offense comes around the net. He has decent vision and puck skills but what stands out most at this level is how much he already plays a N/S pro style game. For a small guy he plays a pretty gritty game and is always looking to mix it up in front of the net.

 

[RangersFan1994]

1st rounders so not very likely to do that. Flames fans would hate us forever.

I think they do but Canes fans hate us more for Fox.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Agree. It's hard to get a read on Berard. He's either going to be Ryan Bourque, Tyler Motte or Steve Larmer. At least at the juniors level he's been very strong along the wall and on the forecheck. Much of his offense comes around the net. He has decent vision and puck skills but what stands out most at this level is how much he already plays a N/S pro style game. For a small guy he plays a pretty gritty game and is always looking to mix it up in front of the net.

Anything between Motte and Larmer is a win.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Anything between Motte and Larmer is a win.

Or another JAM and make it with a different team.

Leon Wallner would be a good overage pick in the 23 draft.

1-0 Wallner

 

[Beer League Sniper]

I think they do but Canes fans hate us more for Fox.

I don't think Flames fans hate us. They hate Fox. Understandable, given he refused to sign there.

Canes fans were going to hate us no matter what. They're just pissed they didn't get a haul for a guy they themselves got for pennies on the dollar. f*** 'em.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

That Grubbe pick is brutal enough as it is. Let's not make it worse

All you Jayden hater’s will be looking pretty silly in 13 years from now when Grubbe completes his 12th year in the NHL as one of the top third line Centre’s in the game.

 

[pblawr]

I started looking into it this the other day and I couldn't find anyone, but maybe @Amazing Kreiderman can go deeper than I did. When was the last time a player who scored as little as Grubbe did in his post draft season turned into a decent NHL'er? I don't think the historical precedent is on his side.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I started looking into it this the other day and I couldn't find anyone, but maybe @Amazing Kreiderman can go deeper than I did. When was the last time a player who scored as little as Grubbe did in his post draft season turned into a decent NHL'er? I don't think the historical precedent is on his side.

WHL, D+1 season, min 40 GP, players around 0.50 P/GP

Alexander True
Lance Bouma
Tanner Jeannot
Zack Smith
Cody McLeod
Ryan Reaves
Jordan Martinook
Travis Moen
Matt Fraser
Colton Orr

 

[RangersFan1994]

WHL, D+1 season, min 40 GP, players around 0.50 P/GP

Alexander True
Lance Bouma
Tanner Jeannot
Zack Smith
Cody McLeod
Ryan Reaves
Jordan Martinook
Travis Moen
Matt Fraser
Colton Orr

Tanner Jeanott was not drafted. how about a list of players that was only drafted? Grubbe was a 3rd round pick. Hope he makes it but seems too injury prone

 

[pblawr]

WHL, D+1 season, min 40 GP, players around 0.50 P/GP

Alexander True
Lance Bouma
Tanner Jeannot
Zack Smith
Cody McLeod
Ryan Reaves
Jordan Martinook
Travis Moen
Matt Fraser
Colton Orr

Based on that, it seems like a realistic hope for someone with his track record would be a 4th liner who can fight, right?

 

[cwede]

... Grubbe was a 3rd round pick. Hope he makes it but seems too injury prone

willing to accept the Sutters' trust in Grubbe as basis for optimism

 

[RangersFan1994]

Othmann on 1st line, Cuylle on 4th line, Vaisanen on 3rd line in favor of Lambert

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Based on that, it seems like a realistic hope for someone with his track record would be a 4th liner who can fight, right?

That's out of roughly 200 players so odds are slim.

 

[RangerBoy]

"I'm very physical," the Flint Firebirds winger said. "That's how I get under the skin of guys. I'm almost 190 pounds and I play like I'm a little bit heavier. That's something a little underrated in my game."

Connor Bedard, who was also teammates with Othmann at the 2021 under-18 World Championship, agrees.

"At the U18s I remember in the first game I was shocked that he threw like three big hits," the Regina Pats forward said. "He creates a lot of energy for us, and he can make such good plays. He gelled well with us."

"He finishes every check," noted top-line centre Mason McTavish. "He plays hard. He plays the right way. He's pretty chirpy too."

"The guy that I always look up to in the NHL is Matthew Tkachuk," said Othmann. "He's a guy that's physical and gets under guys’ skin a lot. He likes to be that rat on the ice."

 

[ArPanet]

I'm keeping an eye on Logan Cooley. He hits 25 or 26 and the trade watch is on, if he hasn't already been traded by then. Just like every other super high pick for AZ.

 

[RangersFan1994]

With all this talk about the Kings and their center death, if their is a match with the Rangers, I hope they look at Helenius. Rangers love their bloodlines

 

[RangersFan1994]

Othmann makes it 1-0, nice deflection. Learning from Kreider I see

 

[EdJovanovski]

Othmann!!

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]