World Cup: Team French Canada instead of Team Young Guns??

[Mr Kanadensisk]

I can't stand the plan for a team young guns. Since the next World Cup seems destined to be a gimmick tournament I would way rather see two Canadian teams, Anglo and French, than what the NHL has proposed. I know lots of people would be worried about the political implications, but from a fun perspective I think it could be cool and I know it would be a massive hit amongst French Canadians.

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[JackSlater]

I can't stand the plan for a team young guns. Since the next World Cup seems destined to be a gimmick tournament I would way rather see two Canadian teams, Anglo and French, than what the NHL has proposed. I know lots of people would be worried about the political implications, but from a fun perspective I think it could be cool and I know it would be a massive hit amongst French Canadians.

It would be just as gimmicky (and horrible) as the Young Gunz, and as you suggest it would probably lead to some annoying political bickering. One potential positive could be that seeing that limited team line up might induce hockey people in Quebec to make changes to their development system to finally get things back on track.

 

[Davebo*]

I can't stand the plan for a team young guns. Since the next World Cup seems destined to be a gimmick tournament I would way rather see two Canadian teams, Anglo and French, than what the NHL has proposed. I know lots of people would be worried about the political implications, but from a fun perspective I think it could be cool and I know it would be a massive hit amongst French Canadians.

Better East and West Canada

No need to kick that other can of worms.

 

[93LEAFS]

Would almost rather see team GTHL (think they could be competitive even with Jake Allen as the starter )or even Ontario then young guns. French Canada would be interesting (and how will it be defined for example Giroux is from Ontario, Letang is from NB) would the players have to self identify? What about Anglophones from MTL (Corey Crawford). And this is before we get into political side.

 

[JackSlater]

Would almost rather see team GTHL (think they could be competitive even with Jake Allen as the starter )or even Ontario then young guns. French Canada would be interesting (and how will it be defined for example Giroux is from Ontario, Letang is from NB) would the players have to self identify? What about Anglophones from MTL (Corey Crawford). And this is before we get into political side.

Letang is from Quebec, you might be thinking of Luc Bourdon as he was from New Brunswick. Couturier is also from new Brunswick, but is clearly French Canadian.

 

[Mr Kanadensisk]

Would almost rather see team GTHL (think they could be competitive even with Jake Allen as the starter )or even Ontario then young guns. French Canada would be interesting (and how will it be defined for example Giroux is from Ontario, Letang is from NB) would the players have to self identify? What about Anglophones from MTL (Corey Crawford). And this is before we get into political side.

I'd say just let players self identify as French speaking (it's not an official iihf tournament after all). That way guys like Giroux, Toews, Pomnville, Gélinas, etc could play if they wanted.

 

[Mr Kanadensisk]

It would be just as gimmicky (and horrible) as the Young Gunz, and as you suggest it would probably lead to some annoying political bickering. One potential positive could be that seeing that limited team line up might induce hockey people in Quebec to make changes to their development system to finally get things back on track.

Do you think French Canadians would see it as gimmicky?

 

[JackSlater]

Do you think French Canadians would see it as gimmicky?

Most, yes. Some people would enjoy it and some would enjoy using it as a means of supporting their political ideologies, but most people are pretty reasonable and reasonable people see that an "international" tournament featuring non-nations is gimmicky.

 

[Mr Kanadensisk]

Most, yes. Some people would enjoy it and some would enjoy using it as a means of supporting their political ideologies, but most people are pretty reasonable and reasonable people see that an "international" tournament featuring non-nations is gimmicky.

Harper himself has called the Québécois a nation and there are lots of legitimate international tournaments that allow the countries within the UK to compete separately, so I don't buy that argument and I think it would be a big hit with all French Canadians, whether they are federalists or separatists. However I would avoid any political associations, not mention Quebec at all, have both teams use the exact same set of jerseys, with the exception of one saying Team Canada, the other Equipe Canada.

 

[JayKing]

Do you think French Canadians would see it as gimmicky?

Yes. Absolutely.

 

[Wandering Maroon]

Dumb Idea

Really, Team French Canada? Must everything be based on someone's ancestry.

 

[93LEAFS]

Harper himself has called the Québécois a nation and there are lots of legitimate international tournaments that allow the countries within the UK to compete separately, so I don't buy that argument and I think it would be a big hit with all French Canadians, whether they are federalists or separatists. However I would avoid any political associations, not mention Quebec at all, have both teams use the exact same set of jerseys, with the exception of one saying Team Canada, the other Equipe Canada.

How competitive would just a Quebec team be? Seems there's a serious drop off in talent recently and with alot of the best players in the Q recently either being maritimers/out of province (Crosby, Giroux, Mackinnon etc) and imports (Ehlers, Radulov, Grigorenko, Kucherov, Palat etc).

 

[DyerMaker66*]

Harper himself has called the Québécois a nation and there are lots of legitimate international tournaments that allow the countries within the UK to compete separately, so I don't buy that argument and I think it would be a big hit with all French Canadians, whether they are federalists or separatists. However I would avoid any political associations, not mention Quebec at all, have both teams use the exact same set of jerseys, with the exception of one saying Team Canada, the other Equipe Canada.

He does and says a lot of stupid things.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't think you can really break it down to ancestral history. They wouldn't do a team African American and a team USA

 

[MXD]

Really, Team French Canada? Must everything be based on someone's ancestry.

To be honest, in something akin to an international tournament, it makes more sense to divide teams according to ancestry than according to DOB.

I mean, not that I like the suggestion; the idea of separating by DOB is akin to bubonic plague, while separating by ancestry is akin to dysentry.

 

[MXD]

Besides, what do you do with Jonathan Toews, whose spoken French is VERY GOOD and about on par with players who would definitely fit the "French group".

 

[Rexor]

Really, Team French Canada? Must everything be based on someone's ancestry.

What OP suggests would definitely be a can of worms but anyway, Québec has its own culture, its own history and most importantly, its own language. Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland also have their teams at international sports events, and they're culturally and linguistically much closer to England than Québec is to the rest of Canada. One could argue that Québec has a stronger sense of national identity than Canada itself.

Yeah, I don't think you can really break it down to ancestral history. They wouldn't do a team African American and a team USA

Apples and oranges, really.

 

[xxxx]

I don't and wouldn't like the idea. Canada is one nation.

 

[Mr Kanadensisk]

Really, Team French Canada? Must everything be based on someone's ancestry.

It's not based on ancestry, just language.

 

[Deleted member 250185]

I think simply a Team Quebec would make more sense then Team French Canada.

 

[Mr Kanadensisk]

How competitive would just a Quebec team be? Seems there's a serious drop off in talent recently and with alot of the best players in the Q recently either being maritimers/out of province (Crosby, Giroux, Mackinnon etc) and imports (Ehlers, Radulov, Grigorenko, Kucherov, Palat etc).

It's more than just quebec. Toews and giroux and others could also join in. They may not be the strongest, but not the weakest either.

 

[jekoh]

Canada is one nation.

Not according to the Canadian Parliament, to which the Québécois form a nation.

 

[jekoh]

What OP suggests would definitely be a can of worms but anyway, Québec has its own culture, its own history and most importantly, its own language. Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland also have their teams at international sports events, and they're culturally and linguistically much closer to England than Québec is to the rest of Canada. One could argue that Québec has a stronger sense of national identity than Canada itself.

Wales, England or Northern Ireland having their own teams instead of competing as Scotland in a small minority of sports has very little to do with language or sense of national identity or any of that bullcr*p. It's just that these four federations already existed when the international federation was formed.

In the vast majority of sports, starting with ice hockey, that wasn't the case so Wales, England or Northern Ireland are not allowed to have their own teams, disirregardless of any irrelevant consideration regarding national identity or other futilities.

 

[Macman]

Not according to the Canadian Parliament, to which the Québécois form a nation.

A nation within a united Canada. A symbolic gesture. Nothing more.

 

[1Gold Standard]

A gimmick team is a gimmick team, all are equally nonsensical. But if the OP is basing it on language, then it should be Team Francophonie, in which case, the Da Costa brothers would want in.