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World Cup of Hockey 2028

LadyStanley said:


NHL and NHLPA would like to start planning on event. IIHF currently in negotiations with organization they work with to put these events on.

NHL and NHLPA willing to go it allow if needed.
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Hmmm, this Twitter news is about UTAH.
 
The date of the next World Cup will be a long time coming. 2028 or longer time feels bitter. 2028 is the same as 2004 until 2016. Something more efficient will take place in 2025 or 2026, such as advise International Ice Hockey Federation highest bosses. Lot hockey fans opinion. World Cup time this year or next year. The date 2028 feels far away. Canada has won 2 out of 3 last World Cups. The USA has won 1 of the last 3 World Cups. North American dominance 1996-2016. I'm worried if Canada wins the next World Cup. European nation luck? But it takes time to phase the next World Cup.
 
🇫🇮 🇨🇦 dominated national team hockey since 2018.

I does not viewed Olympics final 2022.
 
René Fasel: I don't understand why the IIHF allowed the 2028 World Cup of Hockey to be organised without the IIHF. As IIHF Pres I have always worked together with NHL & NHLPA. I protected Euro hockey not to allow the NHL to have a big presence in Europe. Gary Bettman is very smart, he feels that Euro hockey is fragmented.
 
Assuming Russia is rehabilitated in international sports by 2028 (not saying they should be or it's right, just that they probably will be) you run into the issue of maintaining an even number of teams without dipping into multinational teams like NA or EU.

There's the obvious big six - Canada, USA, Finland, Sweden, Russia, Czechia. But then after that there are 3 decent options to choose from - Germany, Switzerland, and Slovakia. Do you choose 2 of the 3 to compete, a la 2004 (which included Slovakia and Germany), or do you try and find a tenth dance partner?

Problem is that there's a pretty big dropoff in roster depth after those top 9. My assumption would be you add Latvia, but some might make a case for Denmark or even Norway. All 3 can be pretty comparable.

Curious to see what they decide to do.
 
godot said:
Assuming Russia is rehabilitated in international sports by 2028 (not saying they should be or it's right, just that they probably will be) you run into the issue of maintaining an even number of teams without dipping into multinational teams like NA or EU.

There's the obvious big six - Canada, USA, Finland, Sweden, Russia, Czechia. But then after that there are 3 decent options to choose from - Germany, Switzerland, and Slovakia. Do you choose 2 of the 3 to compete, a la 2004 (which included Slovakia and Germany), or do you try and find a tenth dance partner?

Problem is that there's a pretty big dropoff in roster depth after those top 9. My assumption would be you add Latvia, but some might make a case for Denmark or even Norway. All 3 can be pretty comparable. Could even throw all 3 in there for a 12 country tourney.

Curious to see what they decide to do.
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Without the IIHF there aren't going to be enough players for more than 4-6 teams anyway. Already now Finland is really thin on defense.
 
Albatros said:
Without the IIHF there aren't going to be enough players for more than 4-6 teams anyway. Already now Finland is really thin on defense.
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The World Cups of 2004 and 1996 had plenty of non NHL players.

I think it's the obvious 8 with Russia on the outside looking in.
I've always felt there should be qualifiers for those wanting to attend but that seems like a pipedream.

If Russia is in and the field in expanded to 10.. It would make sense to have a fall 2027 tourney with teams ranked 10 through 13 based on results at previous worlds and the Olympics. Would be hosted by the 10th ranked team.
 
PanniniClaus said:
The World Cups of 2004 and 1996 had plenty of non NHL players.

I think it's the obvious 8 with Russia on the outside looking in.
I've always felt there should be qualifiers for those wanting to attend but that seems like a pipedream.

If Russia is in and the field in expanded to 10.. It would make sense to have a fall 2027 tourney with teams ranked 10 through 13 based on results at previous worlds and the Olympics. Would be hosted by the 10th ranked team.
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With IIHF participation. No European team is obliged to release their players without, and indeed won't.
 
As said many times before. The idea of new international (IIHF) hockey schedule was discussed at the 2012 Hockey Forum. In principle, NHL & KHL agreed on a new model with mandatory international break in February for Olympics & NHL´s World Cup of Hockey and IIHF Worlds taking place every second year. But, IIHF and European member countries refused that model. As a result, the NHL is organising the 4 Nations in February instead of off-season (Aug/Sept) as before. And proposing the World Cup of Hockey to be held in-season (February?). As for the hosting city of the 2028 World Cup, you need to go with the SKA Arena in St.Petersburg - the largest hockey venue in the world. There is not better hockey venue in Europe. But, Finns & Swedes will .... :popcorn:

 
godot said:
Assuming Russia is rehabilitated in international sports by 2028 (not saying they should be or it's right, just that they probably will be) you run into the issue of maintaining an even number of teams without dipping into multinational teams like NA or EU.

There's the obvious big six - Canada, USA, Finland, Sweden, Russia, Czechia. But then after that there are 3 decent options to choose from - Germany, Switzerland, and Slovakia. Do you choose 2 of the 3 to compete, a la 2004 (which included Slovakia and Germany), or do you try and find a tenth dance partner?
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I would assume that the NHL would prefer to have Switzerland and Germany to round up the obvious six, just from the potential exposure point of view.

Realistically the Olympics may play some role here. If Slovakia (or Latvia or Denmark) does remarkably well, the League may be almost forced to include them and adjust the pool accordingly.

But there is also the issues of the group structure. You want USA and Canada in the same pool (assuming two pools of four) to guarantee on match up between them for the North American audience. But having Swiss and Germany in the same pool would probably maximize the value of their games, but they are also clearly weakest of the bunch resulting in very unbalanced pools.

Do you go USA-CAN-RUS-CZE (maximize value of preliminary round for North American audience) and SWE-FIN-GER-SUI (pool playing in Europe and crossing the Atlantic for playoffs)?
 
Albatros said:
With IIHF participation. No European team is obliged to release their players without, and indeed won't.
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I don't really see the NHL announcing this without some form of IIHF sanction. There's probably something short of full IIHF participation that has the same result. Similar to how the NHL used to release players for the Olympics without being an actual participant (which still may be the case... not sure of the specifics of the 2026 participation).
 
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