World cup is better than Olympics
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TLeafsFan
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The rest of the entire globe doesn't come close to having Canada's depth though.
You could probably make up Canada A, Canada B, put them in different pools in an international tournament and they'd probably end up facing each other in the finals.
Then let's replace the Edmonton Oilers and Toronto Maple Leafs with TNA U-24 and Team Europe for the coming NHL season.
Better hockey, right?
All I know is the area around ACC is being taken over by the WCH. Just went for a stroll down there on my lunch and I just can't wait!!!!!!!!
Not even remotely. I don't think any of the players would agree with you either.
You think that losing in the final of this World Cup is going to haunt these players for the rest of their lives? Not a chance.
Losing in the olympic final on the other hand? Just ask Ryan Miller.
Not even remotely comparable. The entire Northern Hemisphere watches the Olympic Gold Medal game. Who will watch the final of this tournament? Some Canadians? I was at a bar yesterday and they had the Canada game on and NO ONE was watching. Didn't even realized Canada scored or took it to OT since no one was making any noise. The best part is this final could potentially be contended by two non-country teams.
Make it a proper world cup, ala the FIFA world cup, where countries have to qualify then you might be on to something.
You think that losing in the final of this World Cup is going to haunt these players for the rest of their lives? Not a chance.
Losing in the olympic final on the other hand? Just ask Ryan Miller.
Not even remotely comparable. The entire Northern Hemisphere watches the Olympic Gold Medal game. Who will watch the final of this tournament? Some Canadians? I was at a bar yesterday and they had the Canada game on and NO ONE was watching. Didn't even realized Canada scored or took it to OT since no one was making any noise. The best part is this final could potentially be contended by two non-country teams.
Make it a proper world cup, ala the FIFA world cup, where countries have to qualify then you might be on to something.
Burke the Legend
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The greatest intl. hockey tournies (Summit series, Canada cup) were not Olympics, I don't know why some people here find it so sacred. The people running it are despicably corrupt parasites too, and don't even care about hockey which at least NHL people do no matter what you think of them.
The World Cup bringing the best on best back to professional league control means better innovations, rules, hosting arrangements and focus on hockey.
The World Cup bringing the best on best back to professional league control means better innovations, rules, hosting arrangements and focus on hockey.
That's the most hilarious bit.
The Bettman Cup is being advertised as deciding which country "owns hockey" but when it's all said and done we still might not know.
tony d
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Parity means that your teams is so good it can beat other good teams, and not call it a coincidence.
Outside of Canada/North America no one even remembers these. The players seem to care and the games are real fun to watch but you cant compare this to the Olympics.
86Habs
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That's not what it means at all.
Definition of parity: the quality or state of being equal or equivalent*
* From Merriam Webster. In sports terms it essentially means the league/tournament is relatively even, and that all or most teams have at least a reasonable shot at winning.
gimmicky ******** tournament, having mixed teams makes it very bad. Olympics every 4 year should be the "world cup" of hockey, NHL should collaborate with the Olympics. If NHL players are out from the 2018 Olympics, it will be the death of international best on best hockey.
Gary Nylund
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Of course I can. By and large, the Canada Cup tournaments have been better than the Olympics. There are several reasons for this, the main one is no shootouts (god what a dumb way that is to settle a hockey tournament) but there are others.
See what I did there? I just compared those tournaments to the Olympics. Whaddya know, it can be done.
And BTW, some people outside of North America do remember and do so quite well. Even if that wasn't the case though, it wouldn't diminish my view of these amazing events the least bit!
So the same thing but different wording.
Parity means that anyone can win, but does not mean close scores. If anyone can win that means that it isn't just luck.
You two are saying the same thing.
ok, that's perhaps better wording, or this one:
Anyway, Team Europe and Team NA do fall into this category.
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MXD
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Because the Olympics have been the best Int'l Tournaments for nearly 20 years.
86Habs
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I tend to agree, Canada is the favourite to win and I would be very surprised if Team Europe won, but I do consider there to be a good level of parity in this tournament and expect the majority of games to be highly competitive.
It's more free flowing cause the players don't care.
The olympics MATTER so they are a lot more hesitant and defensive.
Really?
So say Canada wins a thriller over Sweden in the final. Next year you go to Sweden and start bragging about how awesome that game was, we'll see how you feel when the only reply you get is "Huh?".
If only one country cares about the "world" cup, it's not a world cup. It's a joke.
Better by what standards? Quality of hockey? Sure. International appeal? No. The gimmick teams have to and will eventually be dropped because they're not appealing to anyone not on HFboards. World Cup of Hockey is projected by the NHL to pull in 100 million dollars, the last Rugby World Cup (a sport 3rd most popular in England, second in Australia, and first in a few island nations) pulled in 400 million. The last Super Bowl pulled in 620 million. The last cricket world cup revenue was projected 1.5+ billion. The last Association football World Cup pulled in 4.8 Billion.
"Good hockey", "Parity", those are important to HFboards people. Actual National teams, "rallying around the flag", that's important to Real World people. So to the hockey fans who think you're in the majority and see "great hockey" as the most important thing, you're in the extreme minority. We are on HFboards because we are crazy about hockey, but our combined capital is relatively small. If the NHL wants (which is doesn't) to keep revenues in the little kid's lemonade stand range then it'll keep the gimmicks going.
"Good hockey", "Parity", those are important to HFboards people. Actual National teams, "rallying around the flag", that's important to Real World people. So to the hockey fans who think you're in the majority and see "great hockey" as the most important thing, you're in the extreme minority. We are on HFboards because we are crazy about hockey, but our combined capital is relatively small. If the NHL wants (which is doesn't) to keep revenues in the little kid's lemonade stand range then it'll keep the gimmicks going.
86Habs
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I still consider the Olympics (with NHL participation of course) to be the gold standard for international hockey. Without NHL participation, the Olympics are meaningless to me. The World Cup could have surpassed the Olympics in my estimation, with the benefit of better timing, full training camps, not having shootouts decide playoff games and a best 2/3 final, but the gimmick teams at this current tournament ruined its credibility / importance in my view.
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