OT: World Cup 2022 (Human Rights Optional) - Let's Get Stoned!

trostol

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missed opportunity..if England beat us they have no need to put the best lineup out against Wales aside from national pride

who ever that first guy talking in studio was super whining
 

Starat327

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If you give a yellow there, there should have been one on Zimmerman for the challenge that resulted in the penalty (which on first look, I didn't even think was a penalty :laugh: ).

I'm fine with no cards on either.

...no you dont.

Zimmerman got ball, and then Bale (smartly) bungled over his foot. Thats a dumb penalty, but Zimmerman made a play on the ball and succeeded. To be clear, its sitll a penalty - you never put your leg between a defenders in the box.

The welsh player didnt play the ball at all - clipped a trailing leg of a breaking player. Cynical, Late, and no attempt on ball. Thats about as clear a yellow as you can get in open play.
 
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Starat327

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That’s reserved for real Brazil.
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trostol

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Landon has a huge head and Clint looks like they grabbed some homeless dude off the street and cleaned him up ..then there is Alexi
 
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3 points were there for the taking. Wales bringing on the really tall guy who could actually press instead of playing Bale up top changed the game.

I'm gonna guess (hope?) that there's still a fitness concern with Reyna, because otherwise, bringing on Morris is...yikes.

Thought Pulisic was great in the 1st half but started to play hero ball in the 2nd.

Not sure how much I love playing Aaronson as one of the 8s when he doesn't play it for his club - don't think he's ever played there professionally, because he didn't with the Union. Not really sure what our other options are there though: Reyna has the same concerns, Acosta already came on and is limited offensively, and apparently LDLT is injured.
 

CanadianFlyer88

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...no you dont.

Zimmerman got ball, and then Bale (smartly) bungled over his foot. Thats a dumb penalty, but Zimmerman made a play on the ball and succeeded. To be clear, its sitll a penalty - you never put your leg between a defenders in the box.

The welsh player didnt play the ball at all - clipped a trailing leg of a breaking player. Cynical, Late, and no attempt on ball. Thats about as clear a yellow as you can get in open play.
I disagree with you. :laugh:
 

CanadianFlyer88

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I mean, that's fine, i guess. But by letter of law the one should have been a card and the other shouldnt have.
Ack. I guess I'll explain because I'm fine with the interpretation made by the ref in both cases.

Zimmerman didn't get the ball first (I originally thought he did). A tackle from behind, in the box, denying a goal scoring opportunity, is arguably a yellow. I'm fine with just a penalty there.

Aaronson was fouled late. It was in open play and, while he was moving the ball up the pitch, he wasn't pushing an attack; he was actually pushing out wide, slowing the build up, when he was fouled. Certainly an arguable yellow; fine with just being a foul. Plenty of similar fouls aren't carded and they don't need to be.
 

Starat327

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Ack. I guess I'll explain because I'm fine with the interpretation made by the ref in both cases.

Zimmerman didn't get the ball first (I originally thought he did). A tackle from behind, in the box, denying a goal scoring opportunity, is arguably a yellow. I'm fine with just a penalty there.

Aaronson was fouled late. It was in open play and, while he was moving the ball up the pitch, he wasn't pushing an attack; he was actually pushing out wide, slowing the build up, when he was fouled. Certainly an arguable yellow; fine with just being a foul. Plenty of similar fouls aren't carded and they don't need to be.

Zimmerman 100% got ball first. His knee then went against the inner portion of Bales calf as he extended through the poke. Bale smartly collapsed after the challenge.
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Aaronson was running in a diagonal in front of the Welsh player for an angle around the circle driving towards the half line with a wide space in front of him. It was clearly the build of an attack. Note the player behind him and the half line in the background which would be not far from Aaronsons position if it wasnt cut from the frame.
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CanadianFlyer88

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Zimmerman 100% got ball first. His knee then went against the inner portion of Bales calf as he extended through the poke. Bale smartly collapsed after the challenge.
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Aaronson was running in a diagonal in front of the Welsh player for an angle around the circle driving towards the half line with a wide space in front of him. It was clearly the build of an attack. Note the player behind him and the half line in the background which would be not far from Aaronsons position if it wasnt cut from the frame. View attachment 610849




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Zimmerman clips Bale's foot on the way to the ball.

What you highlighted is the arguable part about the Aaronson foul. It's not an obvious "promising attack".

We're not going to agree about this. :laugh:
 

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