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GDT: WJC: Switzerland Vs USA | December 28th @ 2:30PM MT

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Bounces R Way said:
Dominating performance by the Swiss. Americans didn't even get a shot on goal.

Seems clear to me that this tournament is not nearly as well organized as 2020 in Czechia. Surprise surprise Hockey Canada is involved.
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The Covid global emergency hadn't started in December 2019-January 2020
 
Canada4Gold said:
McKenzie said here on TV that they're going to all be tested today and tomorrow with tomorrows results expedited. If everyone else is negative they'll be good to play against Sweden.

If the case that game can't go ahead they shouldn't have an issue with moving it to the 30th though. That wouldn't break the 3 game in 3 day rule mentioned above
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I just wonder why rules seem to be different for the US and Switzerland. Again, the entire Swiss team had to quarantine 2 full days because of one positive player.
 
Still don't understand why this couldn't be postponed instead? I almost thought it was a joke when I saw it on Wikipedia. You occasionally hear of forfeits from soccer teams playing in war torn nations but I've never heard of it in major NA sports.
 
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Escap1st said:
if this invalidates the tournament then every tournament involving injuries to significant players on contending teams is also invalid

it's the exact same thing but on a lower scale, and you can't prove that the injuries didn't cost that team a medal, just like you can't prove that USA would have achieved anything in this tournament if healthy
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I've never seen a team have to forfeit a game because a couple players got injured.
 
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Hinterland said:
I just wonder why rules seem to be different for the US and Switzerland. Again, the entire Swiss team had to quarantine 2 full days because of one positive player.
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I would assume the rule is 2 negative tests on separate days. With the Swiss having their positive with more than 2 days before the tournament they likely had no reason to expedite the test so they tested 1 day, then the 2nd day and got the results on the 2nd days test the following morning. With the USA having a game tomorrow McKenzie said they're going to test tomorrow morning and get the results as quickly as they possibly can, he said by rushing the swabs by driving them to Edmonton themselves. He also said the results of this mornings test won't be known until tomorrow morning so you can probably assume without expediting the results take a day to receive which is why it likely took the Swiss 2 full days before they had 2 negatives for everyone else.
 
GreatSaveEssensa said:
Ya for the ones who made arrangements to go, booked hotel rooms, bought the tickets and worked their entire Christmas holidays around it have a right to be upset. Thats not to say I don't agree with the decision, but one can still be upset and agree at the same time.
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Anyone who is attending or planned to attend the tournament had to be aware of the possibility that their plans would not happen, especially given the reduced capacity prior to the tournament. I'm in a similar situation, Ottawa comes to Edmonton once a year, I have tickets for the game on Jan 10th. Right now, I'm waiting to find out what will happen with my tickets and If I will have to cancel my plans to travel to Edmonton. It's disappointing, but It doesn't make me mad. I'm not going to blame the NHL, Alberta government, Edmonton Oilers etc. When I made those plans in October I was fully aware that given the circumstances there was a chance that the situation would change and it has. Though the outrage in this thread, much of which has been removed isn't about people's plans being changed.


I think many are missing the broader picture here in regards to salvaging this tournament, especially for the American team. They could have played without those two players but when two becomes five and then ten, it becomes much more difficult for that team to participate. It's a short tournament, action had to be immediate.
 
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Antiillafire said:
Switzerland with the Mickey Mouse win and now they have 3 points. We should get 1 point from the Americans for potentially being exposed on Sunday night.
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We should have gotten 3 points yesterday already and you'll get them for sure if the Russians play the same bs vs you. Also, knowing how contagious omikron is, I'd say it's unlikely the US won't get any more positive tests. So you might get the 3 from the US as well.
 
Can you imagine if they were false positive tests, since the players are asymptomatic.
 
Zonk said:
My understanding is that the USA/Swiss game was initially postponed in the hope that it could be rescheduled.

It was later announced that the USA would have to forfeit because it was not possible to reschedule the game without having a team play three games in three days, which is against IIHF rules.

The suggestion that you made, i.e. having the USA/Sweden game on the 30th, would have required the USA to play on the 29th, 30th and 31st, and thus is not permitted.

Before the tournament started, it was agreed that if a game could not be rescheduled, the team that caused the problem would have to forfeit.
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Yes good thing they're sticking to these hard line rules to keep things normal
 
What I don't understand is why the forfeit had to be a 1-0 regulation "loss".

Why couldn't it have been a 1-0 Overtime "loss"? Therefore, USA still gets 1 point, while the other team still earns more points, but not the full 3 points?
 
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Bounces R Way said:
Dominating performance by the Swiss. Americans didn't even get a shot on goal.

Seems clear to me that this tournament is not nearly as well organized as 2020 in Czechia. Surprise surprise Hockey Canada is involved.
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Surprise surprise theres a global pandemic going on.
 
Why does it go down as a 1-0 loss? I thought the rules were 3 goals per period and it would be a 9-0 loss. That actually might end up mattering if USA happens to lose or forfeit to SWE/RUS. A 3 way SVK/SUI/USA tie would likely come down to h2h goal differential.

So if the final day of the round robin a team gets 1st place unless they lose by 2 or more goals they can just forfeit to lose 1-0 and lock up 1st place?
 
The teams have a 2 day break between New Years and the start of the Quarterfinals. They really couldn't have just delayed until the 1st of Jan? They should have just gone to a bubble, but the IIHF is greedy af. Terrible decision as a result of shit planning.
 
Tobias Kahun said:
Why should the Swiss be penalized for USA testing positive?

It's pretty simple.
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But the Swiss (or whoever if this happens again in this tournament) would still get
a) automatic points, and
b) MORE than the Covid + team

IMO, that seems more fair than the full 3 points.
 
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