GDT: WJC Preliminary Round: Game 19 | 12/31 | 5:00PM PST | Russia Vs Canada

[ORRFForever]

I'm wondering why nobody is talking about Russian discipline and dirty work?

Because it's a given and something we see every year.

 

[CanuckistanFlyerfan]

Stop pretending that what I'm saying is not 100% correct! In the 10 year decade between 2011-2020, the tournament will have been held in Canada or Buffalo, which is a suburb of Toronto on the Canadian border and where Canadian fans overwhelm even the local American fans (who are largely apathetic to its existence), 7 of 10 times, or 70% of the time. The Americans are a little better equipped to cope with the competitive imbalance, because they don't have to cross the ocean to compete. I look at last year, when Sweden seemed to clearly be the better team, and yet somehow lost because of what unbiasd eyes viewed as "environmental factors." Blame the irrelevance of this tournament outside of Canada on the destruction of competitive balance by corporate greed on the part of the Canadian television network TSN, Hockey Canada and the IIHF. It has been reduced to positioning for the NHL draft.

Maybe Canada and it's suburb, Buffalo should stop doing this clandestine tilting of the ice surface in its favor and just flat out cheat like Russia does on the world stage?

 

[ORRFForever]

I'm wondering why nobody is talking about Russian discipline and dirty work?

As a Canadian, I do hope they continue to rely on their prowess at 4 on 5 hockey. Good luck with that.

No discipline whatsoever.

They have talent, showed desire when on the ropes, and continued to be stupid about their anger issues.

Butt end? Hilarious that he thought it would fly.

If Russia can't tone down the stupid they're toast. Otherwise....if they can find discipline, it should be a great match-up.

I'm old enough to remember them kicking people with their skates quite clearly. I remember BC's ankle biter. I also remember Mark Messier laying a forehead wide open for emphasis. It was a little late (a few years) but very effective. The dirt is old with the Russians.

A Russian victory over Team Canada is still better than a Swedish one. The Russians fight for it.

I'm not bad mouthing Russian hockey but there are certain constants we see from Russia at the WJR's :​

1) Lots of cheap shots;
2) Lots of dirty stick work;
3) Lots of gloating after they win.

It is what it is.

 

[Kap-the-Head]

I'm not bad mouthing Russian hockey but there are certain constants we see from Russia at the WJR's :​

1) Lots of cheap shots;
2) Lots of dirty stick work;
3) Lots of gloating after they win.

It is what it is.

Yes, as compared to honest, hard working, humble Canadian boys

 

[Dominance]

Am I the only one laughing my ass off at this scene of a motherf***ing Russia fan bemoaning cheating and some massive state-organized conspiracy?

Check this beauty out:

Editorial: Russia will always cheat; why allow it?

 

[jj cale]

Yes, as compared to honest, hard working, humble Canadian boys

We seem to have worked out pretty well as your neighbor all these years.

Who would you want straddling your border given the choice?

 

[ORRFForever]

Yes, as compared to honest, hard working, humble Canadian boys

I don't think Canadians or Americans gloat after they win - also, they may be rough / tough, but I don't see dirty stick work from the North American teams.

Yes, there were players like Steve Downie, but they are the exception.

Yes, there were probably examples 25+ years ago, but I haven't seen it recently.

 

[jj cale]

I don't think Canadians or Americans gloat after they win - also, they may be rough / tough, but I don't see dirty stick work from the North American teams. Maybe I'm missing it.

Yes, there were players like Steve Downie, but they are the exception.

Well in all fairness a guy like Bobby Clarke is always going to spring to Russian fans mind, can't say I blame them.

 

[ORRFForever]

Well in all fairness a guy like Bobby Clarke is always going to spring to Russian fans mind, can't say I blame them.

Of course. But, again, that was a long time ago.

 

[jj cale]

Of course. But, again, that was a long time ago.

True, it was a long time ago. Still, it's going to be something that always sticks out for them.

 

[AtNightWeFly]

I've read one page and Canadians are being annoying af again about hockey.

 

[Dominance]

I've read one page and Canadians are being annoying af again about hockey.

I’m really interested in exactly what you’re referring to.

 

[AtNightWeFly]

I’m really interested in exactly what you’re referring to.

Read above.

 

[jj cale]

I've read one page and Canadians are being annoying af again about hockey.

Can you blame us? we've got the usual suspect ruining the gdt before the game even begins spouting off conspiracy nonsense.

It would tick anyone off from anywhere, especially when it is like clockwork with the same thing each and every year.

If the poster had just posted objective game analysis and not the usual yearly tilted 40 degrees in our favour stuff none of this would have ever gotten started, don't blame us.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I've read one page and Canadians are being annoying af again about hockey.

So you read a thread where a Russian poster claimed that Canada only wins because of "environmental factors" and you logical conclusion is Canadians are the ones being annoying? Says more about you then anyone else to be honest.

 

[AtNightWeFly]

So you read a thread where a Russian poster claimed that Canada only wins because of "environmental factors" and you logical conclusion is Canadians are the ones being annoying? Says more about you then anyone else to be honest.

Don't get offended just tell us more about those hard-working, humble, honest Canadian boys.

 

[jj cale]

So you read a thread where a Russian poster claimed that Canada only wins because of "environmental factors" and you logical conclusion is Canadians are the ones being annoying? Says more about you then anyone else to be honest.

Pretty much. and I guess he hasn't ever spent anytime in u.s game threads either, a lot of guys who ain't angels there thats for sure.

 

[Pouchkine]

Maybe Canada is just the greatest hockey nation in the world and that’s why we win.

Which doesn't mean much...

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Don't get offended just tell us more about those hard-working, humble, honest Canadian boys.

I didn't say anything about Canadians. There are dumb people in every part of the world but when you got someone spouting off ludicrous conspiracy theories and you say Canadian fans are the ones looking bad in this thread....Yeah there are only like two options for you but I will refrain from laying it on that thick.

 

[ORRFForever]

Don't get offended just tell us more about those hard-working, humble, honest Canadian boys.

Must have been directed at me.

I stand by it : North American players handle themselves really well at the World Juniors and on the international stage.

From both North American teams, I see less stick work and less gloating than I do from some nations that excel at it.

 

[jj cale]

Don't get offended just tell us more about those hard-working, humble, honest Canadian boys.

if I were you I would concentrate on how your good old boys do against the finns tonight, would be time better spent for you.

 

[Pouchkine]

This is one of the weakest Russian team I have seen in 30 some years at the U20, and with Canada at home on the small ice I don't expect a close game. Dump and chase, cycling the puck along the boards game should be too much for the Russians.

 

[AtNightWeFly]

Anyways, I'm only here for Alex Alex. Hoping for another good game from him!

 

[AtNightWeFly]

Must have been directed at me.

I stand by it : North American players handle themselves really well at the World Juniors and on the international stage.

Yup. Scoring 14 goals on the hapless Danes was oh so humble. Could've scored 15!

 

[jj cale]

This is one of the weakest Russian team I have seen in 30 some years at the U20, and with Canada at home on the small ice I don't expect a close game. Dump and chase, cycling the puck along the boards game should be too much for the Russians.

I'm not convinced of this, if we continue to make some of the decisions we have been making on defense and as a team in general the Russians will catch us on odd man rushes and burn us...................................they don't miss on them very often.

Can't wait for this game.