WJC Group A: Dec 29 GDT - Norway vs. Canada

[Slitty]

No, no, no. The officiating is fine. The only fan in this thread who is qualified to judge told us so.

Seriously, as a knowledgeable fan you shouldn't take out your team's difficulty to adapting to the way a game is called on the ref. Standard European ref, calling it by European standards.

 

[Mathletic]

No, no, no. The officiating is fine. The only fan in this thread who is qualified to judge told us so.

hey, blame the players not the ref.

 

[417]

Does Steve Downie ever leave the ice?

Everytime I look, # 7 is on the ice

 

[Resolute]

This is a real ref, the same that you will get at the Olympics.

These are the WORLD Championships with 10 teams. Only 2 of those teams are North American... why does everyone have to play with the North American definition of a cross-check or a charge if 8 of the teams are from Europe by which standards the ref is calling the game?

I believe they are using NHL referees in the Olympics...

I'll flip your question: Why do we constantly have to suffer the European non-contact version of the game? Canada and the US may only be two of the six major hockey nations (the other four teams in this tournament are just filler), but why should the North American style be tossed in favor of this garbage?

I said it earlier in the thread, but this tournament is being held in North America. It should be officiated in the North American style. When the tournament is in Europe, it should be called their way.

Anyway, I'm off to the Flames game, where bodychecking isnt a crime. Thank god.

 

[espo*]

Seriously, as a knowledgeable fan you shouldn't take out your team's difficulty to adapting to the way a game is called on the ref. Standard European ref, calling it by European standards.

yeah,thats the problem,just worse then usual.
I'm not taking our teams game out on the ref,i'm taking him ruining any kind of good game we hoped to see.The U.S Finland game earlier that i watched today was full of this stuff too.Geez...................boring to watch.

 

[Resolute]

hey, blame the players not the ref.

maybe you're a 7 year old kid or whatever, maybe that's why you can't understand

Your delusions of superiority may convince you you are right, but given you are pretty much the only person currently defending this clown, I am forced to ask why you believe your opinion trumps the vast majority.

 

[El_Scoobo]

hey, blame the players not the ref.

What about the late whistles by the linesmen??? That is very frustrating to me.

 

[joe_shannon_1983*]

Canada's problem the last 2 games is that they have quit skating.

Against Finland, they skated hard and they skated constantly.

Against Switzerland and Norway, however, they are doing a lot of standing around and a lot of watching the play happen rather than participate. They also are trying to go against the defense 1-on-1 quite a bit, instead of using teamwork.

 

[Levitate]

so is this just a crappy slow game or what? i assume it's actually still going on?

 

[Zetterberg4Captain*]

hey, blame the players not the ref.

Are you related to the ref or something? There is no reason to blame the players as LOTS of these penalties are undeserved and are not there fault........

 

[Brock]

The one on Bourdon wasn't but he should have got one the play before.

He laid a clean body check on an opposing player who had just gotten rid of the puck. How on earth should that have been a penalty. At least he did have a "hold" of the Norwegian players jersey on the actual penalty call on the play after where he rubbed him out along the boards.

 

[RandV]

Seriously, as a knowledgeable fan you shouldn't take out your team's difficulty to adapting to the way a game is called on the ref. Standard European ref, calling it by European standards.

This would make sense... but doesn't Norway lead in PIM's right now? I agree with Resolute though, if it's played in North America, call it that way.

 

[El_Scoobo]

Canada's problem the last 2 games is that they have quit skating.

Against Finland, they skated hard and they skated constantly.

Against Switzerland and Norway, however, they are doing a lot of standing around and a lot of watching the play happen rather than participate. They also are trying to go against the defense 1-on-1 quite a bit, instead of using teamwork.

I think this has to do with the opponents. As a player it may be harder to "fear losing" to Norway than it would be with Finland. I still think it must be difficult for this team to not look forward to Saturday. I know as a fan I looked right past the swiss and norwegians towards the americans. Its just hard to get excited for a game like this. Norway has had little to no offensive pressure.q

 

[shakes]

Now that was a WEAK call.. goalie doesnt know where the puck is, Canadian player goes after it, penalty to Canada

 

[Aaron Vickers]

I once had a similar penalty to that of Bertram and I asked the referee how you can slash someone when the blade of your stick never leaves the ice.

I guess Bertram is trying to figure out the same thing.

(If anything, the penalty should be a spear, not a slash. In this instance, I don't believe it should've been called a penalty at all.)

 

[Macman]

This is a real ref, the same that you will get at the Olympics.

These are the WORLD Championships with 10 teams. Only 2 of those teams are North American... why does everyone have to play with the North American definition of a cross-check or a charge if 8 of the teams are from Europe by which standards the ref is calling the game?

The European definition of a charge is a different than of a North Americans? I didn't know that. That explains why a guy got called after taking ONE stride and hitting a guy.

I'm not complaining because of the calls against Canada. There's no bias that I can see in these officials. The calls have been terrible for EVERYBODY. This clown put the Norwegians down two men for two invisible calls. If you can't see the infraction on a slo-mo replay, it's not a penalty.

They've turned one of the best HOCKEY tournaments in the world into a POWERPLAY tournament.

Hockey is an intense, physical game. You could call a penalty every 30 seconds if you really wanted to. Apparently these guys do. Case in point: great slashing call on Bertram.

 

[shakes]

And another weak call... 2 man advantage for Norway

 

[El_Scoobo]

The European definition of a charge is a different than of a North Americans? I didn't know that. That explains why a guy got called after taking ONE stride and hitting a guy.

I'm not complaining because of the calls against Canada. There's no bias that I can see in these officials. The calls have been terrible for EVERYBODY. This clown put the Norwegians down two men for two invisible calls. If you can't see the infraction on a slo-mo replay, it's not a penalty.

They've turned one of the best HOCKEY tournaments in the world into a POWERPLAY tournament.

Hockey is an intense, physical game. You could call a penalty every 30 seconds if you really wanted to. Apparently these guy do. Case in point: great slashing call on Bertram.

I have to disagree here. The penalties have been an issues in this tournament every year. You can't really say they've TURNED this into a powerplay tournament. This is the way it is always called.

 

[espo*]

It's been so bad the crowd is starting to boo a Norway offside after a Bourdon hit because they hear the whistle and assume it's a penalty on luc.That's how bad it's been.

 

[Slitty]

I believe they are using NHL referees in the Olympics...

I'll flip your question: Why do we constantly have to suffer the European non-contact version of the game? Canada and the US may only be two of the six major hockey nations (the other four teams in this tournament are just filler), but why should the North American style be tossed in favor of this garbage?

I said it earlier in the thread, but this tournament is being held in North America. It should be officiated in the North American style. When the tournament is in Europe, it should be called their way.

Anyway, I'm off to the Flames game, where bodychecking isnt a crime. Thank god.

NHL released a list of referees that will accompany International referees. Im sorry, you dont get AMerican and Canadian refs refing all the games.

If you dont like what you see, change the channel. If your team cant play without taking penalties, perhaps they shouldnt play. What else can I say, standard rules... which are NOT going to change based on the location of the tournament.

 

[hockeyfan125]

It's been so bad the crowd is starting to boo a Norway offside after a Bourdon hit because they hear the whistle and assume it's a penalty on luc.That's how bad it's been.

they are actually chanting LUUUUUUUC, so it sounds like booing. Not sure if they were on that particular play, but they have been.

 

[Macman]

I have to disagree here. The penalties have been an issues in this tournament every year. You can't really say they've TURNED this into a powerplay tournament. This is the way it is always called.

It's never been this bad.

 

[El_Scoobo]

I sure hope the ref lets them play on saturday. That game is going to be a barn burner.

 

[shakes]

shoot The Puck

 

[gobolt7]

I have to admit, these refs must truely be pathetic, because in my couple years of posting on these boards, this is the most complaing I have ever seen about officiating.