WJC: Canada's #1 goaltender

[hockeyfan125]

Yeah, Pavel had such an incredible GAA... (?!)

Price is a goalie. Not the same thing as a cherry picking forward.

I realize that, but its getting hard to see some Hab fans claim he is the next Patrick Roy, after they critizised him to no end in the summer.

Price is a good goalie, and is playing good hockey, but WHL numbers don't always (or very often) translate into NHL numbers.

 

[Rand]

I hope the management takes the best 2 goalies no matter what

What else would he do?

I can't imagine he's intentionall going to choose a lesser goaltender. The goal is to win afterall
Obviously the goaltenders chosen will be the best two goalies in his opinion.

 

[AndyDusso]

For a short tournament you look to have some consistency. Justin Pogge has played great this year but he reminds me of Nastiuk last year, I'm not sure Pogge will be able to beat at least 2 goalies to fit in.

As for Dubnyk IMO he is the same style of Price but even if Price is younger, I feel Price has shown more on international level than Dubnyk who never really dominates.

I really like Ellis, maybe odds are against him because he plays in the Q but I figure he is the goalie who is the most constant. For that reason I see Ellis as the backup for sure. It will be a battle between Pogge, Dubnyk and Price for the #1 and I feel Price will lead. He is the best talented goalie and a really calm goalie.

Let Price start the tournament and if he does not deliver, Ellis will be a perfect fit...

I'm looking for a goalie who can steal a game but also a goalie who is not cold...I know Price has been up and down but he has played great last month and to me is the best goalie. Plus he is a 1987 which would help for next year even if it might not be taken into consideration!

But Canada will be O.K. between the pipes but guys like Schwarz, Rask are really good, and the US with Schneider is also better.

 

[Meat Wave]

I realize that, but its getting hard to see some Hab fans claim he is the next Patrick Roy, after they critizised him to no end in the summer.

Wow, that's just wrong. I've never seen anything like that about Price on these boards. He's an elite prospect for sure, and to think he could be Theodore's replacement easily around 2009 is not reach. Claiming he's the next Patrick Roy though: you won't hear that from any Habs fan on these very boards, even the most biased.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

Wow, that's just wrong. I've never seen anything like that about Price on these boards. He's an elite prospect for sure, and to think he could be Theodore's replacement easily around 2009 is not reach. Claiming he's the next Patrick Roy though: you won't hear that from any Habs fan on these very boards, even the most biased.

The only reason they won't claim Price as the next Patrick Roy is because he's not french. If he were, then there'd be all kinds of claims. However, I'm not surprised that nobody called him the 2nd coming of Ken Dryden. After all, Dryden is a good English boy, much like Price. I'm sure Price will also have to learn to speak French if he's going to play in Montreal. If he doesn't, the separatist journalists will eat him and the Montreal organization alive.

 

[hockeyfan125]

this guy will become a game breaker ala Luongo or Brodeur.

maybe I overexaggerated with Roy, but you see what I mean.. Habs fans are great posters, but some of them pimp their prospects to no end..

I have nothing against Price, and wouldn't be suprised if he starts for this team,but bashing the other goalies in favour of your own teams prospect is stupid, especially when they are all still 18-20 years old.

 

[417]

I realize that, but its getting hard to see some Hab fans claim he is the next Patrick Roy, after they critizised him to no end in the summer.Price is a good goalie, and is playing good hockey, but WHL numbers don't always (or very often) translate into NHL numbers.

I recall Habs fans being upset at the pick, but I don't recall anyone claiming he's the next Patrick Roy... not sure where you got that from...

Habs fans were upset for no reason, too much listening to Pierre McGuire and not enough trusting guys who've been successful at drafting.

 

[417]

The only reason they won't claim Price as the next Patrick Roy is because he's not french. If he were, then there'd be all kinds of claims. However, I'm not surprised that nobody called him the 2nd coming of Ken Dryden. After all, Dryden is a good English boy, much like Price. I'm sure Price will also have to learn to speak French if he's going to play in Montreal. If he doesn't, the separatist journalists will eat him and the Montreal organization alive.

Ok then...

 

[First Line]

. I'm sure Price will also have to learn to speak French if he's going to play in Montreal. If he doesn't, the separatist journalists will eat him and the Montreal organization alive.

You mean like our Captain for the last 7 years?

 

[417]

I swear, reading other teams boards...people are actually rooting for goalies to fail, just to see their own team's goaltender be the starter...how ridiculous

 

[Towelie*]

I swear, reading other teams boards...people are actually rooting for goalies to fail, just to see their own team's goaltender be the starter...how ridiculous

I hate people that use that condescending smiley. Like you are better then everyone else because of a position taken on a hockey board.

And yes, I am actively rooting, and won't deny it, Dubnyk, Price and Pogge to fail in order for Ellis to succeed. Success and failure are relative words during competition.

 

[TheDynasty]

Montreal fan here.

As much as I like the Price pick, and continue to think the Habs scouting staff really knows what they are doing, I have to admit he hasn't been the most consistent of the options over the last season and a bit. Neither has Dubnyk for that matter, but they've both been really good since around the last week of October.

That being said, Pogge and Ellis have far better seasons under their belts, and Ellis has been very very solid (outside of a playoff hiccup) for probably over two seasons now. I still really can't believe where Vancouver picked this guy. Though Pogge plays for hands down the best team out of any of the goaltenders, I don't know as much about him, but his numbers speak for themselves.

All of Dubnyk, Price and Ellis have very questionable defensive units in front of them, so basically I think it is really going to come down to camp. I'm obviously pulling for Price (at least a bit), but gotta admit he's been very up and down this season and the last thing Team Canada needs is for him to enter one of his slumps during the tournmanent. Following the Q fairly closely it's seemed to me that Ellis has always enjoyed large shot totals, which is something I think this Team Canada might have problems with.

If I had to predict I'd say they would take a 1a/1b tandem of Price/Ellis and go with the hot hand.

 

[417]

I hate people that use that condescending smiley. Like you are better then everyone else because of a position taken on a hockey board.

And yes, I am actively rooting, and won't deny it, Dubnyk, Price and Pogge to fail in order for Ellis to succeed. Success and failure are relative words during competition.

Sorry, i didn't make the smilies and they were the best animations which could describe my feelings at the moment...

If you root for a guy to fail, just so you're guy can get in...well, that's great...I find it weak and immature...I just want Canada to win, and if Justin Pogge a prospect from the Maple Leafs, makes the team ahead of Carey Price a prospect for my Montreal Canadiens, i'll cheer for Pogge to do as well as he can and i'll worry about why Price didn't make the cut later...

This isn't an all start game...it's international, so whether you're a fan of USA, Germany, Finland or Canada...it's national pride that takes precedent over NHL team affiliation IMO, or else what's the point of having these international tourney's, might as well just have an annual world prospect tournament

 

[Namso]

And yes, I am actively rooting, and won't deny it, Dubnyk, Price and Pogge to fail in order for Ellis to succeed. Success and failure are relative words during competition.

i'm rooting for dubnyk, pogge and ellis to fail and PRICE to succeed.
I'm also hoping that all the forwards and dman on Canada don't score except Latendresse and Chipchura.

Go Habs Prospects!

You should be able to cheer for whoever you want. You can't say that just because its an international tournament you have to cheer for countries and not individuals.

It would be sweet though to see all 3 of them succeed AND canada win.

 

[Phaneuf*]

My guess is many of you saying no Pogge have never seen him play. He's a very quick goalie and has stole a few games for the Hitmen this year. He's so quick to cover the five hole and he's got a great glove hand.

Price
Pogge

 

[hockeyfan125]

^ all of these 4 goalies are great talents, which is why its such a debate as to who will win the job(s).

 

[CH Wizard]

No way, Price won't be the #1 goalie with the kind of numbers, he has been putting as of late.

 

[Meat Wave]

No way, Price won't be the #1 goalie with the kind of numbers, he has been putting as of late.

Oh, the irony! Dan (montreal) has just posted his "Habs prospect of the month" thread. Guess who won the title this month? Yeah, Carey Price.

 

[VanW27]

My guess is Price as the starter and Pogge as back-up but i think Ellis could be either the Starter or the Backup. I think Dubnyk is the least likely to make the team at least at this moment.

 

[Garp]

But Canada will be O.K. between the pipes but guys like Schwarz, Rask are really good, and the US with Schneider is also better.

I think that Canada are going to be better between the pipes than at least USA and Finland.

Lets not overrate USA, They have an outstanding offense but...

 

[Towelie*]

Sorry, i didn't make the smilies and they were the best animations which could describe my feelings at the moment...

If you root for a guy to fail, just so you're guy can get in...well, that's great...I find it weak and immature...I just want Canada to win, and if Justin Pogge a prospect from the Maple Leafs, makes the team ahead of Carey Price a prospect for my Montreal Canadiens, i'll cheer for Pogge to do as well as he can and i'll worry about why Price didn't make the cut later...

This isn't an all start game...it's international, so whether you're a fan of USA, Germany, Finland or Canada...it's national pride that takes precedent over NHL team affiliation IMO, or else what's the point of having these international tourney's, might as well just have an annual world prospect tournament

You find it weak and immature? Simply stunning. So if the Maple Leafs and Montreal Canadiens met in the Eastern Confernce finals, and it was game seven, you wouldn't be rooting for the Maple Leafs to fail? For if you are rooting for the Maple Leafs to fail, you are subsequently rooting for the individual players, who make up the Leafs, to fail. Who is immature and weak now?

Why do you assume that I would cheer against Pogge if he did indeed became the starter for team Canada? That's not the case at all. I am however, actively rooting for them to fail so that I can root for Ellis whilst rooting for Canada.

I think it is ironic and comical how your lack of understanding has led to your own feeling of superiority (That you are not "weal" or "immature".

 

[Rise from the Ashes]

Hey its like i said the best 2 goalies, also i think sutter will select 2 WHL goaltenders.

 

[417]

You find it weak and immature? Simply stunning. So if the Maple Leafs and Montreal Canadiens met in the Eastern Confernce finals, and it was game seven, you wouldn't be rooting for the Maple Leafs to fail? For if you are rooting for the Maple Leafs to fail, you are subsequently rooting for the individual players, who make up the Leafs, to fail. Who is immature and weak now?

Why do you assume that I would cheer against Pogge if he did indeed became the starter for team Canada? That's not the case at all. I am however, actively rooting for them to fail so that I can root for Ellis whilst rooting for Canada.

I think it is ironic and comical how your lack of understanding has led to your own feeling of superiority (That you are not "weal" or "immature".

Ok, 1st of all...i'm talking about Team Canada, it's not an NHL team, my affiliation to Team Canada is the team, not necessarily the individual players, sure i'd love for Latendresse, Price and Chipchura to all star but I don't cheer for Pogge to suck so Price can can shine instead...I don't secretly cheer for one of the other centers to stink it up so Chipchura can play a scoring role, etc....You're trying to take what i'm saying out of context, and I never assumed you would cheer for Pogge, I don't know where you're getting that from If you choose to root for other players to fail so Ellis can get his good for you

I also cheer for my Habs players, but never at the expense of others who are trying to make the team...I do find it weak, it shows insecurity...I knew from day 1 Price was a good pick for the Habs and a good goalie, I don't need to his competitor to fail to realize that...

My lack of understanding huh? Feeling of superiority?

How you got all of that by my post, i'm not sure...i thought it was the norm for fans of Team Canada to want their team to succeed...I don't mind someone wanting their team prospect to make it ahead of another, I just find it dumb when they're hoping and praying the other player sucks, so there's can get it...If that's you're and others type of thing more power to you, I just find it weak

 

[Towelie*]

Ok, 1st of all...i'm talking about Team Canada, it's not an NHL team, my affiliation to Team Canada is the team, not necessarily the individual players, sure i'd love for Latendresse, Price and Chipchura to all star but I don't cheer for Pogge to suck so Price can can shine instead...I don't secretly cheer for one of the other centers to stink it up so Chipchura can play a scoring role, etc....You're trying to take what i'm saying out of context, and I never assumed you would cheer for Pogge, I don't know where you're getting that from If you choose to root for other players to fail so Ellis can get his good for you

I also cheer for my Habs players, but never at the expense of others who are trying to make the team...I do find it weak, it shows insecurity...I knew from day 1 Price was a good pick for the Habs and a good goalie, I don't need to his competitor to fail to realize that...

My lack of understanding huh? Feeling of superiority?

How you got all of that by my post, i'm not sure...i thought it was the norm for fans of Team Canada to want their team to succeed...I don't mind someone wanting their team prospect to make it ahead of another, I just find it dumb when they're hoping and praying the other player sucks, so there's can get it...If that's you're and others type of thing more power to you, I just find it weak

"I do find it weak, it shows insecurity"
Right....... I am not a psycologist, but I am pretty sure you are wrong.

I still don't think you get my point. I want Canada to get a gold medal. By hoping Pogge, Price, or Dubnyk fails hows no outcome on Canada's chances. I hope that Ellis wins the starting job - from that I have no idea how you think that means I don't want Canada to win?

 

[Aaron Vickers]

No way, Price won't be the #1 goalie with the kind of numbers, he has been putting as of late.

You mean the kind of numbers Pogge's put up all year?

Numbers wont make you the starter or the backup.

Justin Pogge put it best when talking to Hockey Now. Two goaltenders aren't going to make this team because others have poor stats. You'll have to play your *** off in order to make this team.

At this point, numbers mean nothing. Camp means everything, and how comfortable Sutter will feel with these goalies between the pipes.