Speculation: With the third pick in the 2024 NHL draft the Anaheim Ducks select...(Draft is June 28th @ 4pm PT. ESPN. ESPN+)

[forever1922]

I have absolutely no faith in that list. It's Pronman doing Pronman things once again before he adjusts to a more sensible list closer to the draft.

Yakemchuk will not be among first 3 defensemen drafted. Nor should he be.

Lindstrom and Demidov are the best forwards by a significant amount. Lindstrom's drawback is the health.

Sennecke, Helenius, Iginla, Catton will follow. Helenius and Catton have seen stocks decline in favor of others, especially Sennecke. But Catton could prove everyone wrong and turn out the best of the bunch.

Pronman somehow has Freij and Basha as third rounders? Come on.

 

[Beckett]

A lot of smoke around Lev and the Hawks, also keep hearing Demidov dropping. Really seems like Hawks are going to go with Levshunov.

I think the Duck's won't mind and will be pretty pumped to get Silayev.

 

[Gliff]

Not just this, there’s a chance he’s going to spend another year unchallenged. Apparently some think him refusing to extend played a factor in him being demoted and that could happen next year too. Maybe they loan him out instead or something but that’s kind of a scary thought that he might play all of his teens against subpar competition.

Yup. They are using it to strong arm him.

 

[lwvs84]

Then why isn't Dickinson in the conversation? He's 6'3 (6'2.75"), 203 lbs, wingspan of 78.75" (tied at 10th longest for all the NHL combine participants), shutdown d-man, plays physical, is a great 4-way skater, and according to UpSideHockey, "blessed with speed that's near-elite-at 6'3"."

Dickinson
D-1 (age 16): 62 games, 9g + 14a = 23 pts (0.37 ppg rate), and a +5 rating
D+0 (age 17): 68 games, 18g + 52a = 70 pts (1.03 ppg rate), and a +56 rating

Granted, Sam was on stacked team with London in the OHL, but he was with London in his D-1 season too. That's some serious development offensively and defensively. He's a shutdown D who developed his offense.

Whichever d-man we draft, they're much lower on the PP totem pole due to already having Zell and Minty in the NHL. Even LaCombe looked amazing in his only game as a PP1 QB, he notched two PP assists staying near the blue line like a traditional PP QB.

Dickinson should be if they view him as the best defensive D. Zellweger can play the right side too. It's just that the speculation is Silayev to Anaheim (granted they're all rumors) and that there are scouts that view him as the next Hedman. If Ducks scouts disagree and view Dickinson as the superior D, they absolutely should take him. Ducks should draft BPA, but if there are 2-3 guys that they feel could be that player then the tie breaker should be position.

Like you said, if we draft a D they are going to have to be absolutely elite offensively to pass Zell and Minty and even LaCombe, and even Luneau might have a slight edge due to handedness. Not saying whoever we draft can't beat them out, but I'd rather have a guy that settles in as a 3rd/4th/5th option behind the current young D but can handle PK 1 and shutdown matchups.

 

[Static]

A lot of smoke around Lev and the Hawks, also keep hearing Demidov dropping. Really seems like Hawks are going to go with Levshunov.

I think the Duck's won't mind and will be pretty pumped to get Silayev.

There are whispers that we like lindstrom a considerable amount as well. If lev goes #2 then I think it's between those two.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Mock Draft 1.0: Predicting where they go, after the Sharks take Celebrini – Sportsnet.ca

 

[Beckett]

There are whispers that we like lindstrom a considerable amount as well. If lev goes #2 then I think it's between those two.

I have a hard time seeing them not going d-man at 3... but if they really love a guy like Lindstrom and take him 3rd, they probably have a couple d-men they expect to hit at their late 1st and early 2nd picks. There's a ton of intriguing large d-men in this draft

 

[Static]

I have a hard time seeing them not going d-man at 3... but if they really love a guy like Lindstrom and take him 3rd, they probably have a couple d-men they expect to hit at their late 1st and early 2nd picks. There's a ton of intriguing large d-men in this draft

Or they really do move zegras for a dman.

 

[tomd]

Mock Draft 1.0: Predicting where they go, after the Sharks take Celebrini – Sportsnet.ca

The Demidov to Chicago mocks are starting to look like day old bread.

 

[Arthuros]

The Demidov to Chicago mocks are starting to look like day old bread.

If your day old bread looks like that, you have worse issues on your hands.

 

[tomd]

If your day old bread looks like that, you have worse issues on your hands.

Point taken. How about spoiled milk?

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I have a hard time seeing them not going d-man at 3... but if they really love a guy like Lindstrom and take him 3rd, they probably have a couple d-men they expect to hit at their late 1st and early 2nd picks. There's a ton of intriguing large d-men in this draft

If the team is looking for tall, shutdown RD's then there's two around late first or early second they can take in EJ Emery or Charlie Elick. Emery's stock has recently risen because of his WJC-18 performance. There's a tall, two-way RD in the same range in Badinka.

In the late 2nd to 3rd round, I'm fond of shutdown RD Soini. He's 6'2.5" and 187 lbs at the combine measurements. I saw his name in a couple of the top-25 testing combine results: 18th in VO2 max, tied for 3rd in Mean Power Output, 9th in Peak Power Output, and 5th in bench press 50% of body weight. Scouting report: Upside Hockey, The Hockey Writers

Last season, Soini played in Finland's U18, U20, Mestis (men's 2nd tier), and Liiga (men's 1st tier). He did this as a 17-year old all season long because he turned 18 year old today, June 10th. He has history of some offense, but gets promoted to higher levels of hockey due to his defense and size to where he doesn't have time to develop offense. And because he's a European player, we have a longer time to retain his rights (4 years) as opposed to a CHL'er (2 years), iirc. He would be a stash and, hopefully, cash in later type of prospect.

 

[tomd]

If the team is looking for tall, shutdown RD's then there's two around late first or early second they can take in EJ Emery or Charlie Elick. Emery's stock has recently risen because of his WJC-18 performance. There's a tall, two-way RD in the same range in Badinka.

In the late 2nd to 3rd round, I'm fond of shutdown RD Soini. He's 6'2.5" and 187 lbs at the combine measurements. I saw his name in a couple of the top-25 testing combine results: 18th in VO2 max, tied for 3rd in Mean Power Output, 9th in Peak Power Output, and 5th in bench press 50% of body weight. Scouting report: Upside Hockey, The Hockey Writers

Last season, Soini played in Finland's U18, U20, Mestis (men's 2nd tier), and Liiga (men's 1st tier). He did this as a 17-year old all season long because he turned 18 year old today, June 10th. He has history of some offense, but gets promoted to higher levels of hockey due to his defense and size to where he doesn't have time to develop offense. And because he's a European player, we have a longer time to retain his rights (4 years) as opposed to a CHL'er (2 years), iirc. He would be a stash and, hopefully, cash in later type of prospect.

Are Emery and Elick really any different from Noah Warren? I suspect the organization is still high enough on Warren that they aren't necessarily looking for another tall shutdown RD unless he is BPA at their pick. I don't think they'll reach for either player.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

The Ducks are not picking Demidov, go back and read the quotes about Verbeeks vision for the team, he doesn't really fit that. It's going to be Lindstrom or one of these D

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Are Emery and Elick really any different from Noah Warren? I suspect the organization is still high enough on Warren that they aren't necessarily looking for another tall shutdown RD unless he is BPA at their pick. I don't think they'll reach for either player.

Warren was a raw prospect when we drafted him and his skating needed work. He was the last of the upper tier, shutdown d-men. Shorter d-man Chesley, at 6'0, was drafted five spots earlier, at pick #37, than 6'5 Warren. THW scouting report: here.

Since being drafted, Warren has been plagued with injuries for the past two seasons. His progress has stagnated. We need more darts in case Warren doesn't pan out. Also, RD Moore is a Harvard prospect and we're not very lucky with Harvard prospects signing. heh

Elick and Emery have projections of late first or early 2nd round.

MyNHLdraft, June 7th (Rd 1 only): #28. Emery, #30. Elick
Tankathon, June 1st (Rd 1-2): #27. Elick, #34. Badinka, #37. Emery
NHL.com Kimelman, June 10th (Rd 1 only): #23. Elick, #32 Emery
NHL.com Morreale, June 10th (Rd 1 only): #30. Elick
the Score, June 10th (Rd 1 only): #21. Elick, #30 Emery
SportsGrid (Rd 1 only): #21. Emery, #28. Badinka, #32. Elick

Emery's scouting report has him as a better talent and skater than Warren. He's got a good transition and breakout game. Not a very physical player or open-ice hitter. Emery will be going to the NCAA route with South Dakota, which is a great development league for defensemen. South Dakota is where Jake Sanderson went to college. Emery will be in great hands! THW scouting report: here.

Elick is one of the top skaters in the CHL (CHL top prospects on-ice results, 5th overall), loves to be physical, and great on the PK. Offensively, the scouts believe Elick will be behind Emery's projection. THW scouting report: here.

 

[tomd]

Warren was a raw prospect when we drafted him and his skating needed work. He was the last of the upper tier, shutdown d-men. Shorter d-man Chesley, at 6'0, was drafted five spots earlier, at pick #37, than 6'5 Warren. THW scouting report: here.

Since being drafted, Warren has been plagued with injuries for the past two seasons. His progress has stagnated. We need more darts in case Warren doesn't pan out. Also, RD Moore is a Harvard prospect and we're not very lucky with Harvard prospects signing. heh

Elick and Emery have projections of late first or early 2nd round.

MyNHLdraft, June 7th (Rd 1 only): #28. Emery, #30. Elick
Tankathon, June 1st (Rd 1-2): #27. Elick, #34. Badinka, #37. Emery
NHL.com Kimelman, June 10th (Rd 1 only): #23. Elick, #32 Emery
NHL.com Morreale, June 10th (Rd 1 only): #30. Elick
the Score, June 10th (Rd 1 only): #21. Elick, #30 Emery
SportsGrid (Rd 1 only): #21. Emery, #28. Badinka, #32. Elick

Emery's scouting report has him as a better talent and skater than Warren. He's got a good transition and breakout game. Not a very physical player or open-ice hitter. Emery will be going to the NCAA route with South Dakota, which is a great development league for defensemen. South Dakota is where Jake Sanderson went to college. Emery will be in great hands! THW scouting report: here.

Elick is one of the top skaters in the CHL (CHL top prospects on-ice results, 5th overall), loves to be physical, and great on the PK. Offensively, the scouts believe Elick will be behind Emery's projection. THW scouting report: here.

[mod] I assume Warren is still very much in the team’s future plans. As to the others...if we can’t even figure out who they are going to take 3rd, I’m sure we’ll be very wrong with every one of the later picks. After all, who predicted Myatovic last year? (That was rhetorical, i don’t need a long response about that pick).

 

[rlstine]

I could definitely see Lindstrom fitting right in with our young core (because like them he’s always injured).

Good player though, maybe a little too much overlap with McTavish.

 

[Static]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800531324924739622

Man, in a few years? I get the potential, but it would be a bit of a gut punch.

 

[Gliff]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800531324924739622

Man, in a few years? I get the potential, but it would be a bit of a gut punch.

He has 2 years left on his KHL contract. No matter what he will not make his NHL debut until 2026-2027 unless his KHL contract gets voided for some reason.

It would be like if Mintyukov made his debut next year. It isn't crazy.

The biggest thing to take from this is that his focus is getting to the NHL as soon as his KHL contract is up. Also a 6'8 guy that can fight while playing 24 minutes a night would be nice lol.

 

[Static]

He has 2 years left on his KHL contract. No matter what he will not make his NHL debut until 2026-2027 unless his KHL contract gets voided for some reason.

It would be like if Mintyukov made his debut next year. It isn't crazy.

The biggest thing to take from this is that his focus is getting to the NHL as soon as his KHL contract is up. Also a 6'8 guy that can fight while playing 24 minutes a night would be nice lol.

For a third overall that is a long time to wait. Teams picking this high generally rely on their top of the draft talent having an impact during that timeframe.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I really hope we avoid saliyev…. Very underwhelming pick at 3

 

[tomd]

He has 2 years left on his KHL contract. No matter what he will not make his NHL debut until 2026-2027 unless his KHL contract gets voided for some reason.

It would be like if Mintyukov made his debut next year. It isn't crazy.

The biggest thing to take from this is that his focus is getting to the NHL as soon as his KHL contract is up. Also a 6'8 guy that can fight while playing 24 minutes a night would be nice lol.

Yup...I'm sure every team in the top 10 will be asking him if he would come over after his two-year commitment expires. Anything other than a resounding "da" will drop him quite a bit in the draft.

It could be a translation or 18 year-old thing as well.

I'm sure the Ducks (if they are interested) have had many conversations with their (apparently) esteemed Russian scout as with as with Silayev's coach Igor Larionov. I have no doubt the organization will do it's due diligence.

 

[robbieboy3686]

He has 2 years left on his KHL contract. No matter what he will not make his NHL debut until 2026-2027 unless his KHL contract gets voided for some reason.

It would be like if Mintyukov made his debut next year. It isn't crazy.

The biggest thing to take from this is that his focus is getting to the NHL as soon as his KHL contract is up. Also a 6'8 guy that can fight while playing 24 minutes a night would be nice lol.

Im usually absolutely against waiting more than a season for a top 5 pick to be ready. In the ducks case, we will be signing/trading for a right shot top 4 d this summer. And we have kids who need to play and develop the next couple of years on the big club anyways. 2 years in the khl isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker. That said, Lindstrom seems to make the most sense right now, given he would be with the ducks late next season?

 

[DavidBL]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800531324924739622

Man, in a few years? I get the potential, but it would be a bit of a gut punch.

Not really. He probably shouldn't be in the NHL anyway. We have Fowler for a few more years too.

 

[tomd]

For a third overall that is a long time to wait. Teams picking this high generally rely on their top of the draft talent having an impact during that timeframe.

Unfortunately, this draft will likely produce no one other than Celebrini who will be playing in the NHL next year (D+1). And I suspect there won't be too many guys able to play regular minutes in their D+2 year. If Silayev comes over as a 20 year-old in his D+3 season I think he'd be right on schedule and probably able to step right into the NHL having had 3 seasons of KHL hockey behind him.