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Holy shit this kid looks like he’s going to be a nightmare for defensemen.
Prospect Info: With the 9th Overall Pick the New York Rangers Select Vitali Kravtsov
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haveandare
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Thoughts on KHL vs AHL for him next year if he were open to either? Hartford could be decent finally and he could get heavy minutes on the smaller ice
Holocene
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Even more of a nightmare if he's centered by Chytil.
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Irishguy42
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AHL. Will be able to put him in a position to succeed in the regular season and feed him minutes. He'll be fine coming from a men's league already.
haveandare
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That’s kind of my thinking too. Worked well with Chytil last year also coming from a Euro men’s league. I don’t worry so much about bringing kids over if the team in Hartford isn’t such a disaster. They should have some real talent this year finally.
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Change is good.
Hmm. I'm torn. I know we want to get him used to playing in a NA rink, against NA players as soon as possible – and you obviously want to eliminate the chance that he might get pressured into signing another contract over there – but the AHL is a very rough league. Chytil had the advantage of a Jagr-esque physique and Andersson (who only came over later, remember) was one of the most physically developed players in last year's draft; Kravtsov is something of a beanpole. It might be better to let him spend another year developing physically while still playing in the second best league in the world.
Like I said, I'm torn.
i'd let him spend another year in russia. let him develop in a comfortable situation. khl also plays less games so he will be able to physically develop as well.
I highly doubt that Kravtsov is NHL ready, but some creative and interesting lines there.
My only concern with him staying in the KHL is him being pressured/forced/coerced/manipulated into signing a new contract that he'd be forced to buy out.
offdacrossbar
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do not expect a russian kid taken in round 1 at #9 to come over and ride a bus playing is shit hole cities like hartford, utica, hershey and sadly, syracuse, ny.
there is exactly zero excitement for these russian kids to come over here to play in the ahl.
the khl is an nhl developmental league and one that is head and shoulders better than the ahl- especially for a skilled kid like krav.
there is exactly zero excitement for these russian kids to come over here to play in the ahl.
the khl is an nhl developmental league and one that is head and shoulders better than the ahl- especially for a skilled kid like krav.
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offdacrossbar
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it functions as such, so i disagree.
the ahl is for sure and imo, the khl like other euro mens leagues function as developmental programs for kids looking to play here.
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No, it doesn't. Just because some prospects from Russia play there and later on move to the NHL, doesn't mean it's a development league. It's the 2nd best league in the world, and produces players who are among the best. A development league is one where teams send their players to develop, to grow and get better. The AHL for instance.
Hire Sather
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He will develop more in the KHL than the AHL. Call it what you want.
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Yes. He will. But that's not the point. Calling the KHL a development league is just ridiculous. It's sole purpose isn't to develop players for the NHL.
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If he has an out-clause. Otherwise he can't. The NHL has not agreement with the KHL like they do with the Extraliga where Chytil was contracted.
offdacrossbar
misfit fanboy
disagree.
kids playing with men in europe are developing. period.
they develop in the K, SEL, extra liga, etc and they come here.
question is where should they be ? there or here. more and more players are staying there and the coming here after they are "developed".
either way they are developing, and thus that league they are playing in is a developmental feeder for the nhl.
end of that story.
GregSirico
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Hey I'm pumped. I love Kravstov, I had him as a sleeper pick if Wahlstrom was gone but he was right there and they went with him anyway. I'm not mad. I will say they better be right though.
Someone in here mentioned the Shestyorkin and Kravtsov instagram thing. They played together in march on the Russian national team in 2 games against Norway. Thats how they know each other
Calad
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Big time logical fallacy if ive ever seen one. Just because theres a couple players that develop in that league doesnt mean the purpose of the league is to develop NHL players. In fact the league was created as a European alternative/competitor to the NHL. The fact that there's no transfer agreement between the two leagues is evidence of this, the KHL does not want the NHL poaching its talent. If the primary reason for its existence was development you wouldn't have seen players like Buchnevich get scarce amounts of playtime and Shestyorkin playing backup for a majority of the games.
Lose the ethnocentric attitude, theres no room for it in this world
Umm they don't play kids a lot of minutes.
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offdacrossbar
misfit fanboy
work on your reading and capacity to understand.
i never said anything about purpose. you did. i never said anything about any "primary reason" for anything.
i said that all other leagues are defacto developmental leagues for the nhl. i said nothing about that being the "purpose" of those leagues. they develop players for their league, other leagues and the nhl. period. whether thats their intention or desire is irrelevant. these young kids mostly want to play here. those leagues lose players they develop to the nhl. fact.
the question was where does he play. i said these young russians are in no hurry to come over here and play in the ahl. i stand by that.
these young kids playing in euro mens leagues are developing BETTER than they would be coming over to the ahl for a variety of reasons. again, i stand by that statement.
im a huge russian hockey guy, so check your attitude at the door.
"ethnocentric attitude" ? you sir, are mistaken.
thanks and have a great day
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