With the 14th overall selection in the 2023 NHL Entry Draft, the Pittsburgh Penguins select…

[Wattsburgh]

Hopefully on this day today, David Reinbacher scored his first playoff goal as a Pittsburgh Penguin.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I want him to eat, just not at my table.

Him electing to retire or terminate the contract after being told he will be 13F is the best case scenario. You just can't continue to give the guy a roster spot if he hasn't earned it.

We still eat the cap hit, unless the contract is somehow voided, lol.

 

[SEALBound]

We still eat the cap hit, unless the contract is somehow voided, lol.

Indeed but at this point, the open roster slot is more valuable than Carter.

 

[chethejet]

Like a bigger solid RD or bigger RH center would be my preference. Pens lack Right shot center in the system and have no idea if anyone in the Pens system as a RD is a NHL potential contributor. Man did Hextall screw this franchise or what. Trading the second in a deep draft and getting what for that was possibly the worst trade in years. Nasland for the big winger was bad but in defense the big winger was injured in a car wreck and was never the same.

 

[vodeni]

Like a bigger solid RD or bigger RH center would be my preference. Pens lack Right shot center in the system and have no idea if anyone in the Pens system as a RD is a NHL potential contributor. Man did Hextall screw this franchise or what. Trading the second in a deep draft and getting what for that was possibly the worst trade in years. Nasland for the big winger was bad but in defense the big winger was injured in a car wreck and was never the same.

there has been one thing that bother me all along when it comes to players trades, aquisitions, etc...so we all blame Hexy for this trade. Is this how things work in NHL. Some guy, happens to be general manager decides what this team needs, so he knows more about team and players than coaches, he knows which way the team plays, how they are structured in offensive zone, how they break out, how they transition, etc, etc, so the Owners give GM blank slate to go and get any player they seem to fit regardless how the coaches coach, plan and execute. In other words, it looks like that one morning a guy knocks on Sully's doors and says good morning I am your new player my name is Granlund. Or maybe Hextal worked with the coaches to go through the list of players the Coaches would want and than go and try to aquire them but not without their buy in. Even f***ing Ted Lasso has a say who he wants on the team. Again, if GMs really trade and aquire players without coaches significant input that would be the stupidiest thing I ever encountered in any kind of profession.

 

[Andy99]

there has been one thing that bother me all along when it comes to players trades, aquisitions, etc...so we all blame Hexy for this trade. Is this how things work in NHL. Some guy, happens to be general manager decides what this team needs, so he knows more about team and players than coaches, he knows which way the team plays, how they are structured in offensive zone, how they break out, how they transition, etc, etc, so the Owners give GM blank slate to go and get any player they seem to fit regardless how the coaches coach, plan and execute. In other words, it looks like that one morning a guy knocks on Sully's doors and says good morning I am your new player my name is Granlund. Or maybe Hextal worked with the coaches to go through the list of players the Coaches would want and than go and try to aquire them but not without their buy in. Even f***ing Ted Lasso has a say who he wants on the team. Again, if GMs really trade and aquire players without coaches significant input that would be the stupidiest thing I ever encountered in any kind of profession.

They don’t…Sullivan I’m sure was consulted and had an opportunity to object and say “that’s not what I need”…he needs to go as much as the GM

 

[vodeni]

They don’t…Sullivan I’m sure was consulted and has an opportunity to object and say “that’s not what I need”…he needs to go as much as the GM

you never hear anything about, did anyone hear anyone quoted saying, Sullyvan and Hextal brought Granlund...I don't think so.. I would really like to know at what point Sullyvan was informed that they are going after Granlund. He did say that his friends on Nashville staff told him how great defensive player is , excellent PK, etc...that leads me to believe that he had much bigger role in this trade, but conviniently let Hextall take a fall (not that he did not deserve)

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Granlund might be semi-beneficial over a longer timeline than 20 games during a very rare healthy streak for our top 6. He's simply not cut out to be a 3rd liner especially with bad wingers but as a very pricey Rodrigues he could fit. How many man games does our top 6 miss usually, 40-60 games? He slides up into the top 6 in those games and doesn't look out of place. Still hits 50+ points.

He absolutely could and he is a much better player than he's shown while here.

That being said he's not the type of player I want in this top 6 with Geno. Nor the type of player we need.

"Hey Geno you got Granlund strapped to your side for your remaining years in the NHL".

I am not feeling that at all and I don't think Geno would be either

 

[HandshakeLine]

Mike Sullivan is the kind of herb who tattles on classmates.

Wedgie the shit outta that nerd.

 

[chethejet]

It was reported that only Hextall the assistant GM and Burke were in on this trade. They were mainly fired for that move. Other issues as well but that really sealed the deal.

 

[BusinessGoose]

It was reported that only Hextall the assistant GM and Burke were in on this trade. They were mainly fired for that move. Other issues as well but that really sealed the deal.

Link?

 

[vodeni]

Link?

lol, probably Rossi or Yohe made this shit up...

 

[SEALBound]

It was reported that AGM Chris Pryor was the one that pushed for Granlund. He was given the axe too so I imagine that is accurate. Not too often AGMs are given the boot without reason. Hextall and Burke, it's a lot of things. Those two didn't get fired for a single trade. Pryor, probably.

 

[Jacob]

Not sure you can keep a guy like Granlund around if his acquisition was the final straw. Not sure he'd even wanna be around knowing that, or would perform well under such circumstances.

 

[SEALBound]

Not sure you can keep a guy like Granlund around if his acquisition was the final straw. Not sure he'd even wanna be around knowing that, or would perform well under such circumstances.

Yeah, I feel bad for the guy. I think it would be worth seeking a trade for him just to get out of that cloud.

That said, if you can find a trade partner, I think there are ways to incorporate him and obviously its the coaching staff's job to smooth things over. But he's a professional and it's all part of the business so I imagine at this point, he has gained some thicker skin.

 

[Speaker City]

I am not gonna sit here and pretend I have watched every prospect in the rankings, but I am intrigued by Samuel Honzek, a 6'4 winger who can skate pretty well. I just assume if they keep the pick, they take the best center available.

 

[The Old Master]

I am not gonna sit here and pretend I have watched every prospect in the rankings, but I am intrigued by Samuel Honzek, a 6'4 winger who can skate pretty well. I just assume if they keep the pick, they take the best center available.

there seems to be a lot of good centers available. this is going to be a higher pick than we will get in a long while. (hopefully) we need a very good young center so we can move our aging stars to wing so it will extend their high quality careers. so it seems this is the time to fill that need.

 

[Andy99]

there seems to be a lot of good centers available. this is going to be a higher pick than we will get in a long while. (hopefully) we need a very good young center so we can move our aging stars to wing so it will extend their high quality careers. so it seems this is the time to fill that need.

Except Sid and Geno only have two years left most likely and the player we pick at 14 won’t likely be ready to help them…now if we move up to #4 then you’re right

 

[Jacob]

Not everyone is at the U18s as 2004 birthdays are too old and the CHL playoffs are still going but Matthew Wood looked good in some highlights I saw. Sandin-Pellikka has 6 points in 3 games so he’s probably helping his cause.

 

[The Old Master]

Except Sid and Geno only have two years left most likely and the player we pick at 14 won’t likely be ready to help them…now if we move up to #4 then you’re right

there will be a few players that might be able to step in after #4. if the coach will play them.
edit; and put up with their imperfections. and they may need to play a year at wing to get started

 

[Andy99]

there will be a few players that might be able to step in after #4. if the coach will play them.
edit; and put up with their imperfections. and they may need to play a year at wing to get started

Sure, we may luck out and find someone at 14 who makes the team from training camp but almost no one does picked in the middle of the first round…I don’t see that minuscule chance as a reason to the keep the pick if we can improve the team right now by trading the pick

 

[The Old Master]

Sure, we may luck out and find someone at 14 who makes the team from training camp but almost no one does picked in the middle of the first round…I don’t see that minuscule chance as a reason to the keep the pick if we can improve the team right now by trading the pick

i was thinking of dvorsky, ritchie, and maybe yager depending on where you have them ranked.

 

[Andy99]

i was thinking of dvorsky, ritchie, and maybe yager depending on where you have them ranked.

They all could be good nhl players in a few years but none of them will be helping Sid and Geno move to wing or down the line up lol…the earliest a #14 draft pick made the NHL was probably McAvoy, who played in the NHL his second season after being drafted…highly unlikely we’ll see that pick play for at least 2-3 years

 

[The Old Master]

They all could be good nhl players in a few years but none of them will be helping Sid and Geno move to wing or down the line up lol…the earliest a #14 draft pick made the NHL was probably McAvoy, who played in the NHL his second season after being drafted…highly unlikely we’ll see that pick play for at least 2-3 years

that would be the safer way to go, but you never know, the first two have the size already.
edit; yeah, they won't be moving sid or geno right away, that's why i said they may need to start at wing

 

[Jacob]

Knies was picked just ahead of Broz, same age, same league, and is looking really good. Not trying to rub anything in as Broz is fine but if you do your homework and/or get lucky even a late 2nd round pick can be a contributor in about 22 months.