Player Discussion: Winnipeg Jets Defense
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OKR
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Did just fine in Liiga and AHL, never even got a chance in the Jets.
Yeah, he has played 37 minutes combined in the last year, why give him a one way contract if you’re not gonna play him at all? And just like you said, Jets have horrible record at developing players, watch Niku become good dman in other team once actually given the chance, it’s just hilarious to say he has not translated it to NHL level when he barely has got a chance.
His cap hit is 6.25 mil. Chill that's so easy to move for a top 4 defenseman these days
Myers just signed a 6 million contract who's older and coughs up more penalties
Wheeler's contract is probably the worst on the Jets
Trade him now before it's too late
Vegas is better than the Jets at making moves pretty easily. They trying to win every year. Not sit on their hands, then eventually give up more than grt back because say around waiting for something that wasn't going to happen
Did you miss the first three games this season? The guy was horrible.
Vegas is more aggressive but I wouldn’t really say it’s worked out for them yet. They also have an easier time attracting free agents.
I just really liked Poolmans game since his return. There doesn't seem to be any panic. I thought Stanley struggled a bit on Saturday.
There are so many things wrong with this post.
Niku has played plenty as a Jet and had never put together an nhl level defensive game.
All of those players I listed did sweet f*** all with other teams in the nhl, so saying it has something to do with the Jets is ridiculous.
The Jets have developed countless players, including several low draft pics. Just because a fan thinks a particular prospect is more than he ends up being is not somehow the teams fault.
Finally, he got a one way deal because I'm sure that was a condition of him re-signing - pretty standard for a player in the system for that long. Are you suggesting the Jets let a prospect walk for nothing?
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Gabe Kupari
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Nope.
Niku is not NHL caliber. I don't know why Seattle would want him in the expansion draft.
Winnipeg needs to stop drafting Finns , never seems to work that well.
Winnipeg needs to stop drafting Finns , never seems to work that well.
That chart that shows the Jets are the 2nd worst team in the league is all we need to know. We have vastly over rated our D talent level, possibly under rated how poor the team D is and how poor the coaching/system is.
If I am rating the D now:
Morrissey is a #3 with chance to be a #2 but he is trending the wrong way
Pionk is a good #3
DeMelo is a 4/5
Poolman is a 5/6
Forbort is a 5/6
Beaulieu is a 6/7
Stanley is a 6/7 with a chance to be a 4/5
Niku is a fringe NHLer.
Neither Heinola nor Samberg have enough experience to accurately rank them. Hoping/dreaming either (or both) are top 4 is just that. Hoping. In a short season that neither has played a minute yet this season is telling (at least to me). A team trying to win / thinking it has a chance to win does not sit better players just to extend their ELC. If they can improve the team's chance to win I think they would play. Of course, we have the coaching group we have, so there is that.
If I am rating the D now:
Morrissey is a #3 with chance to be a #2 but he is trending the wrong way
Pionk is a good #3
DeMelo is a 4/5
Poolman is a 5/6
Forbort is a 5/6
Beaulieu is a 6/7
Stanley is a 6/7 with a chance to be a 4/5
Niku is a fringe NHLer.
Neither Heinola nor Samberg have enough experience to accurately rank them. Hoping/dreaming either (or both) are top 4 is just that. Hoping. In a short season that neither has played a minute yet this season is telling (at least to me). A team trying to win / thinking it has a chance to win does not sit better players just to extend their ELC. If they can improve the team's chance to win I think they would play. Of course, we have the coaching group we have, so there is that.
Well, they’ve murdered their once deep prospect pool and are constantly in cap trouble. They have a very easy time attracting free agents. They’re in their window right now, we’ll see if they do anything with it.
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GumbyCan2
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Overall team defensive structure and buy-in off a little. To me, overall coaching structure is missing the boat with overall potential of this roster. Our so-called make-shift D are staying afloat 2 outbof 3 periods, or better each game. They are not flashy but, getting the job done more than not. Tesm defensive play is more suspect than the effort and ability of our defenders specifically. IMO, eye-test perception, that is.
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You could put 3/6 defensemen on waivers tomorrow and none of them would be claimed. Kind of tells the story right there.
Jets4Life
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And it would not have anything to do with the 0% state tax, warmer climate, ideal city for sports athletes, one of the top destinations for UFA's. Everything about Vegas is the exact opposite of Winnipeg.
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Jets4Life
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Can anyone tell me why Heinola is stuck in the AHL, when he is arguably better than all but two of our D-men?
Romang67
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Samberg and Heinola both looked really good today. The mood in the Manitoba Moose thread was very upbeat and positive!
I imagine Heinola is our 2nd best d right now. 3rd Samberg 4th Morissey.
Jets4Life
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Niku- 7th round picks rarely make it to the NHL level.
Laine- one of the top snipers in the NHL
Heinola- potential to be a top pairing Defenseman.
This is saying nothing of the Jets 1.0 drafting of Selanne and Numminen,
I think they definitely provide the tool sets that the Jets need.
Issue may be timeline though. Are they thrust in a major role in time?
