GDT: Winnipeg Jets at Los Angeles Kings - January 10, 2015 - 7:00 p.m. (PST)

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According to the reactive gloating from Winnipeg fans on ****** and the main boards, the Jets won the cup tonight. Who knew
 
Our D is severely outclassed in this league. Doughty, Muzzin, and Martinez are the only guys that belong out there right now. Its an obvious hole that needs to be addressed. The amount of goals they've given up and the rate they let them in should be a major concern.
 
As for Brown, I wasn't necessarily talking about tonight. This season in general. As a matter of fact, every year the guy has looked a step slower. He was snake bitten throughout the playoffs last year, I know he's a great leader and does other stuff but he's not the same guy he used to be.

And in my opinion you'd still be wrong. This year he really, really hasn't. Last year he did, and it was explainable by the knee injury. This year, especially more recently, he's been doing everything but throwing his typical monster hits. He's speeding around the ice, carrying the puck into the zone and the play, drawing penalties. Not much more to expect from brown other than points and those will come if he keeps doing what he's doing.
 
According to the reactive gloating from Winnipeg fans on ****** and the main boards, the Jets won the cup tonight. Who knew

I'm used to it at this point. I've seen the term 'measuring stick' followed by insane chest thumping so many times this season my eyes are starting to bleed.
 
ON the bright side, some big guns are starting to wake up. Kopitar has 18 points in his last 10 games, a 147 point pace. So he should definitely keep that up :sarcasm:

Gabby might also be our only 30+ goal scorer this year and he's on pace.
 
According to the reactive gloating from Winnipeg fans on ****** and the main boards, the Jets won the cup tonight. Who knew

Let them win their cups during the regular season. We have seen many teams get really excited this season beating the Kings, not surprising everyone wants a piece of the champs.
 
Our D is severely outclassed in this league. Doughty, Muzzin, and Martinez are the only guys that belong out there right now. Its an obvious hole that needs to be addressed. The amount of goals they've given up and the rate they let them in should be a major concern.

All our current D deserve to be in the league, they're just playing too many minutes, they need to be sheltered by another decent top four dman, it really puts the team under pressure and hangs Quick out to dry at times. I'm just wondering which has been the bigger loss for us, Mitchell or Voynov.
 
And in my opinion you'd still be wrong. This year he really, really hasn't. Last year he did, and it was explainable by the knee injury. This year, especially more recently, he's been doing everything but throwing his typical monster hits. He's speeding around the ice, carrying the puck into the zone and the play, drawing penalties. Not much more to expect from brown other than points and those will come if he keeps doing what he's doing.

I've watched every single game this year and I disagree. I guess it's just different opinions. I'm expecting more than just energy from a captain. We're halfway through the season, and he has 6 goals and 10 assists. I know he's never been a points guy but his production has gotten worst and worst every year. I've seen a little bit more from him since he's been with Kopi and more recently he's showed that energy but he has to bring more to the table than that. Has to start putting the puck in the net (once again, I know that's not what he's supposed to do) but for a guy who's making $7M this year and has a $5.8M AAV, he has to have more than 6 goals in 42 games.
 
If Brown keeps playing like he has been these past few games, I wouldn't even care if he scored another point. He's using his speed and stick skills to back defenders off and causing a lot of turnovers for the opponents. Those passes to Kopitar and power moves to the net are bound to give him some points anyways. I think its just bad luck that he's doing so poorly this season.
 
I've watched every single game this year and I disagree. I guess it's just different opinions. I'm expecting more than just energy from a captain. We're halfway through the season, and he has 6 goals and 10 assists. I know he's never been a points guy but his production has gotten worst and worst every year. I've seen a little bit more from him since he's been with Kopi and more recently he's showed that energy but he has to bring more to the table than that. Has to start putting the puck in the net (once again, I know that's not what he's supposed to do) but for a guy who's making $7M this year and has a $5.8M AAV, he has to have more than 6 goals in 42 games.

That's fine, but I mentioned above I agree on the production front. I've just seen too much positive in his game lately so I think that's going to come around, especially when he starts playing with top-sixers. Hard to expect him to rack up goals and assists playing with King, Stoll, etc. But I agree he has to pick it up. I imagine if we're to have any shot with these guys out we need our leaders to lead and that will include Brown.
 
Our D is severely outclassed in this league. Doughty, Muzzin, and Martinez are the only guys that belong out there right now. Its an obvious hole that needs to be addressed. The amount of goals they've given up and the rate they let them in should be a major concern.

DL made two mistakes this summer. Keeping Richards and re-signing Matt Greene. This has always been one of his biggest issues, not knowing when it's time to move on from some players.
 
All our current D deserve to be in the league, they're just playing too many minutes, they need to be sheltered by another decent top four dman, it really puts the team under pressure and hangs Quick out to dry at times. I'm just wondering which has been the bigger loss for us, Mitchell or Voynov.

Ehh, I don't think Schultz, McBain should be taking a regular shift in the NHL, at least not on a contender. Losing Mitchell and Voynov was killer. Regehr has been very good this year and we desperately need him to pick up where he left off when he gets back and hopefully him and Martinez can be 3/4 of what Mitchell/Voynov brought. The real kicker will be the bottom pairing...who goes there, McNabb/Greene? Forbort? Schultz (vomit)? It's gonna be ugly. And that's before Muzzin and Doughty completely run out of gas. I admit I liked the idea of spreading out the D with McNabb/Doughty and muzzin/greene but didnt' get enough of a view of it to wonder what that could look like to keep us afloat.
 
I've watched every single game this year and I disagree. I guess it's just different opinions. I'm expecting more than just energy from a captain. We're halfway through the season, and he has 6 goals and 10 assists. I know he's never been a points guy but his production has gotten worst and worst every year. I've seen a little bit more from him since he's been with Kopi and more recently he's showed that energy but he has to bring more to the table than that. Has to start putting the puck in the net (once again, I know that's not what he's supposed to do) but for a guy who's making $7M this year and has a $5.8M AAV, he has to have more than 6 goals in 42 games.


Thats the problem, most of us focus on how much he's earning due to our limited cap space, I think we need to forget about watching the $$ and appreciate what player we have.
 
Dustin Brown has been great. He's been playing Trevor Lewis hockey - all energy, but nothing to show for it.

I agree. But someone who's making 7M this year and 5.8 AAV can't be playing Trevor Lewis hockey. That's my whole point. The guy is getting top 6 forward money, yet he's been playing with Dwight King and Stoll.

Hopefully it turns around for him production-wise.
 
Thats the problem, most of us focus on how much he's earning due to our limited cap space, I think we need to forget about watching the $$ and appreciate what player we have.

Yeah, it's also hard to not focus on cap space when we have a $5.75M man as our 4th line centre
 
Again, cap space is not preventing us from doing anything in particular right now, so we should honestly not care less about it at this point.
 
Ehh, I don't think Schultz, McBain should be taking a regular shift in the NHL, at least not on a contender. Losing Mitchell and Voynov was killer. Regehr has been very good this year and we desperately need him to pick up where he left off when he gets back and hopefully him and Martinez can be 3/4 of what Mitchell/Voynov brought. The real kicker will be the bottom pairing...who goes there, McNabb/Greene? Forbort? Schultz (vomit)? It's gonna be ugly. And that's before Muzzin and Doughty completely run out of gas. I admit I liked the idea of spreading out the D with McNabb/Doughty and muzzin/greene but didnt' get enough of a view of it to wonder what that could look like to keep us afloat.

They wouldn't be my first choice, but they're ok with limited minutes. We're trying to play these guys in a second pairing role at times. If we still had mitchell and vv as the second pairing would we really be that concerned about a schultz and mcnabb/ greene/ mcbain pair? we'd be focusing on other issues.


**** completely forgot about martinez, jesus we've been spoilt in the last few years
 
After all the happened tonight. I kinda get this feeling the Kings are about go on a great run. They always seem to do it when things are the most bleak.
 
They wouldn't be my first choice, but they're ok with limited minutes. We're trying to play these guys in a second pairing role at times. If we still had mitchell and vv as the second pairing would we really be that concerned about a schultz and mcnabb/ greene/ mcbain pair? we'd be focusing on other issues.

God yes!

They're adequate and can maybe keep a spot in the league, and mayyyybe they could be a #7 on a contender, but if we had to roll out Schultz/McBain as a third pairing against the Hawks or Preds, just take us out behind the barn. I do not want to watch that tire fire.
 

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