Winnipeg Jets: 11,226 Attendance tonight, cause for concern? What's going on in the 'Peg?

[paul-laus]

Cmon Winnipeg, be better. It’s not like the Jets are even bad. Chevy has been competent to good and has a built a decent team, especially considering the inherent challenges of building a team in a small undesirable market (no offence).

Chevy has not been—-“competent to good”. Try pushing that narrative with somebody who isn’t acutely aware of his complete inability to ice a good lineup for over ten seasons but then still get rewarded with “forever contract extensions “. At one point, the jets had Grant Clitsome, Paul Postma, and Adam Pardy in their top six. Enough said….

 

[Rob Brown]

Regardless of attendance it is the least desireable market in the league by a long shot. Its a dump

Which has nothing to do with attendance lol

 

[HockeyVirus]

All the smart ass remarks about moving the team. As long as there are teams like the Coyotes in the league, the Jets should be safe.

 

[Rob Brown]

All the smart ass remarks about moving the team. As long as there are teams like the Coyotes in the league, the Jets should be safe.

Yeah the Jets are at worst third in line to relocate.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Move all Canadian teams to Southern U.S. markets.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Attendance seems like an sisue for lot of teams.

Look at how many empty seats in Buffalo last night.

 

[ref19]

I don't blame any Canadian fans to be honest. They're tired of giving the league copious amounts of revenue yet enduring failure and in some cases sheer embarrassment every year. Add the undeserved ticket prices coupled with the high cost of living for most people and you can see why they're checking out.

Do you not remember the Canadian assistance plan? Every Canadian team but Montreal and Toronto got saved by US teams 25 years ago

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Inflation rate dropped to 3.8% in September. It's just over half the current global inflation rate Inflation isn't the problem. Corporate greed, especially in the area of food costs, the housing market; those are the issues for many.

Thousands of season ticket holders officially cancelled because of federal, provincial, or arena vaccine policies?

Yeah, I see a definite "agenda" with that poster.

That being said 2021 and 2022 inflation rate absolutely has hurt the average family. Also, I agree with you about the corporate greed part. Supermarket chains such as Kroger has absolutely gouged their customers and rent is thru the roof.

So it makes sense that attendance is down.

 

[Bobby9]

Mark S, Connor H and Josh M are the stars of the team. Possibly the most bland leadership personalities in the NHL

 

[BKIslandersFan]

People actually in the seats or paid? If it’s former I don’t think it’s a big deal.

 

[tucker3434]

The number of markets that will support the team through bad management has always been greatly overstated.

 

[Coffey]

Attendance seems like an sisue for lot of teams.

Look at how many empty seats in Buffalo last night.

Nashville looked pretty empty last night too.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

The 3.8% is year over year... so inflation was 7% the year before, and now it's 3.8% higher than the 7% increase last year. In other words, it's 12% over 2 years. And this isn't just a 2 year issue

Politicians will tell you it's corporate greed, but there's been a devaluation of the dollar with the influx of money printed over the past few years. That drives inflation

As for people talking relocation... do a little research on TNSE. Maybe look into who their majority shareholders are, and what kind of real estate holdings they have in downtown winnipeg.

This company is NOT reliant on gate revenue alone to be profitable. The Jets aren't going anywhere.

Please stop this BS. A significant portion of inflation has been due to corporate price gouging, so just GTFO with your theory of Corporate Greed having little to do with inflation. It has PLENTY TO DO WITH INFLATION.

Before COVID a bottle of Kroger Ginger Ale was .79 cents. The average cost
since 2021 has been between 1.00 and 1.25. Do I need to do the math for you
for the increase? I guess I have to, so that's basically a 41% PRICE INCREASE
on a ****ing bottle. News flash buddy it isn't limited to Ginger Ale.

 

[BLNY]

Yes. They lost a large portion of their non vaccinated seat holders because they had to choose which side to support. The pro vaccinated crowd made it clear they weren't going to attend games if vaccinated mandadates weren't enforced. So the non vaccinated crowd was shut out and many have refused ro go back once those mandates were dropped. That was thousands of seat holders.

Are those mandates still in place? My work place had a vax mandate, following federal lead, but it's since been relaxed. There are even health care providers here relaxing vax requirements and planning return to work for those that left.

If they're not in place, these "fans" have stayed away out of spite?

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Do you not remember the Canadian assistance plan? Every Canadian team but Montreal and Toronto got saved by US teams 25 years ago

that was for a very short time, 25 years ago and mainly due to the exchange rate

 

[surixon]

Are those mandates still in place? My work place had a vax mandate, following federal lead, but it's since been relaxed. There are even health care providers here relaxing vax requirements and planning return to work for those that left.

If they're not in place, these "fans" have stayed away out of spite?

No they aren't in place any longer. You'd have to ask them why they haven't come back.

 

[King Woodballs]

This is great. Serves true north right.
Gouging people.
Most would rather eat and pay their mortgage then go to a pro sports game.

 

[ACC1224]

Don’t give me that crap when the NFL is in Green Bay.

The NFL would do well in Winnipeg.
The NHL wouldn't do well in Green Bay.

 

[BLNY]

Probably because people can work from home and actually afford a house out that way.

Housing is not cheap out here anymore. It might be cheaper than Toronto, but housing has doubled in price in three years and our vacancy rate is as low as Vancouver.

500k for 50 year old split entries. $2/sq ft for an apartment. $3 in close proximity to down town. At 6.49% interest on a 25 year mortgage, that's as much as $1 million (depending on your payment frequency) for a 500k home.

Province also looking at possible levies for those that come here, but work remotely and have their provincial income tax go to province of employment. Those levies would be applied like a property tax, should the come to be.

The impact on people from here that work here and make NS money has been harsh. Single income folks making anything under 100k are screwed without a massive construction boom and regulatory changes.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Chevy has not been—-“competent to good”. Try pushing that narrative with somebody who isn’t acutely aware of his complete inability to ice a good lineup for over ten seasons but then still get rewarded with “forever contract extensions “. At one point, the jets had Grant Clitsome, Paul Postma, and Adam Pardy in their top six. Enough said….

This is a bit disingenuous as I don't think those three were ever iced at the same time a majority of any season. There coukd have been games Paul Postma, Rob O'Gara and
Nick Holden all played for the 2017-18 Boston Bruins.

 

[BLNY]

The 3.8% is year over year... so inflation was 7% the year before, and now it's 3.8% higher than the 7% increase last year. In other words, it's 12% over 2 years. And this isn't just a 2 year issue

Politicians will tell you it's corporate greed, but there's been a devaluation of the dollar with the influx of money printed over the past few years. That drives inflation

As for people talking relocation... do a little research on TNSE. Maybe look into who their majority shareholders are, and what kind of real estate holdings they have in downtown winnipeg.

This company is NOT reliant on gate revenue alone to be profitable. The Jets aren't going anywhere.

I don't need a politician to tell me it's a corporate issue. I just need to look at how far my dollar goes. The dollar has been this low before and it hasn't cost what it does today. I'm paying about 30% more for goods than I was three years ago. That ain't inflation.

I don't need the corporations to tell me it's worker salaries either when I look at the ever increasing divide and concentration of wealth.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

No they aren't in place any longer. You'd have to ask them why they haven't come back.

Lol, that pretty clearly isn't what you absolutely inferred.

 

[Tom Polakis]

Cringe

Dallas is like double the population of Winnipeg and Texas is like 25 times the population of Manitoba.

I think you're reinforcing their point that the big cities should have NHL teams.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

I don't need a politician to tell me it's a corporate issue. I just need to look at how far my dollar goes. The dollar has been this low before and it hasn't cost what it does today. I'm paying about 30% more for goods than I was three years ago. That ain't inflation.

I don't need the corporations to tell me it's worker salaries either when I look at the ever increasing divide and concentration of wealth.

You're 100% correct. I just gave my example on the US side with Kroger. A substantial
portion of inflation, is absolute corporate greed.

 

[BLNY]

You're 100% correct. I just gave my example on the US side with Kroger. A substantial
portion of inflation, is absolute corporate greed.

I can't remember what entity it was, but it was some sort of competition bureau here in Canada. They're advocating for significantly more competition in the grocery sector. Right now, we basically have two dominant companies - Loblaws and Sobeys. Walmart's grocery section is available in select stores. Loblaws and Sobeys bought up the last competitive big chain - IGA - and split them up. Loblaws got the brick and mortar. Sobey's got the in-house product line. We the customer get bent over.