Winnipeg Jets: 11,226 Attendance tonight, cause for concern? What's going on in the 'Peg?

[BahlDeep]

Yeah true the Comp Bureau is only involved for giggles. Not because Sobeys and Loblaws have posted record profits and increased the price of nearly every grocery item multitudes higher than what inflation in costs would warrant.

Corporations would never take advantage of the monopoly they are a part of. They just care so much about the life of everyday Canadians. Almost makes me shed a tear how selfless corporations are : . )

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Profit margins in % are basically unchanged.

You can't look at absolute values and say "profit margins" have increased. Higher cost will lead to higher revenues if margins stay the same.

It's not the job of corporations to help with inflation. This is the job of the Central Bank and Government. Reckless spending and stupid policies have pushed the cost higher for everything.

If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at your politicians.

 

[BE Friend]

25% is the solution

25% fewer games
25% lower tix cost
25% smaller player equipment
25% smaller goalie equipment
25% - of course - lower salary cap

$250 million winner take all CUP pot

 

[oldunclehue]

I'm not sure what's happening in Winnipeg, I suppose it has to be related to inflation and disposable income, but it's not just hockey.

Winnipeg is a concert city. At one time, Canada Life Center was one of the busiest arenas in North America. Concerts would sell out in literally minutes. Tool is here next Sunday and there are literally thousands of tickets available.

People just don't have money.

Its also Tool, kind of a niche music style that doesn't appeal much to the masses. If you were to ask 20 people on the street I bet 17 of them wouldn't know Tool and most wouldn't be able to name a single song.

I'm not here to make any excuses for Jets fans, I for one wouldn't lose sleep if they left again.

 

[cneely]

Its also Tool, kind of a niche music style that doesn't appeal much to the masses. If you were to ask 20 people on the street I bet 17 of them wouldn't know Tool and most wouldn't be able to name a single song.

I'm not here to make any excuses for Jets fans, I for one wouldn't lose sleep if they left again.

Aenima sold 3.7 million copies. They aren't some indie band.

 

[oldunclehue]

Aenima sold 3.7 million copies. They aren't some indie band.

Carole King also sold 15.1 million copies of her album Tapestry....can you name me a song off that album without google?

 

[Louskoolaid89]

Its also Tool, kind of a niche music style that doesn't appeal much to the masses. If you were to ask 20 people on the street I bet 17 of them wouldn't know Tool and most wouldn't be able to name a single song.

I'm not here to make any excuses for Jets fans, I for one wouldn't lose sleep if they left again.

Tool gets commercial radio play. Fantastic band live!

 

[oldunclehue]

Tool gets commercial radio play. Fantastic band live!

I like Tool and I know they are musical geniuses....but to say its a concern they haven't sold out the arena is a stretch. I'd love to see them live...but live too far away for it to be worth it. Now if say a currently popular act selling out elsewhere was to come and not sell out in Wpg....then I'd be concerned.

I believe Morgan Wallin sold out Wpg with some VERY ridiculous ticket prices ($200 plus for upper deck).

I've gone to a few Motley Crue concerts...by far a more mainstream band then Tool and MC didn't sell out either.

 

[cneely]

I like Tool and I know they are musical geniuses....but to say its a concern they haven't sold out the arena is a stretch. I'd love to see them live...but live too far away for it to be worth it. Now if say a currently popular act selling out elsewhere was to come and not sell out in Wpg....then I'd be concerned.

I believe Morgan Wallin sold out Wpg with some VERY ridiculous ticket prices ($200 plus for upper deck).

I've gone to a few Motley Crue concerts...by far a more mainstream band then Tool and MC didn't sell out either.

Tool was here before and I'm not sure if they sold out that time.

It's not just not selling out though. Go look on ticketmaster. There are hardly any upper deck seats sold at all. There are thousands upon thousands of unsold tickets.

Carole King also sold 15.1 million copies of her album Tapestry....can you name me a song off that album without google?

I can't, but it's not really my kid of music.

Doesn't mean she wouldn't sell tickets if she did a performance around the time it came out.

 

[Viqsi]

Winnipeg still has some of the highest ticket prices in the league. Them drawing 11K is still 3 or 4 times more revenue than Phoenix drawing 11K.

This has been demonstrated to not be the case earlier in this thread. They're in the bottom third. See below:

Jets are one of the cheaper teams in the league to watch.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

The real issue that most people don't understand is the lack of corporate tickets.

Chipman talked about himself, the league ranges from 45-85% of tickets sold corporately.

His estimate was that 15% are sold in Winnipeg. With the state of the economy, the teams lack of direction and an overall small market, there is way less room for error for Winnipeg than there is for other cities. I used to be a season ticket holder as well but forking over 5 grand a year for tickets is no longer reasonable with the increase in cost of living.

Add in that TNSE has one of the worst in-game productions I have ever seen in pro-sports, and for a long time treated fans as if they were just lucky to be there and there are plenty of reasons for the low attendance.

I expect it to be a season long issue, hopefully the team shows something to make fans excited because from my personal experience there is a tremendous lack of interest in this team. Guaranteed to finish somewhere between 10-20th, not win the cup and not add an exciting young player. Purgatory.

 

[dj4aces]

This has been demonstrated to not be the case earlier in this thread. They're in the bottom third. See below:

I am curious if this is still true. The infographic says it's for the 2021-2022 season with a first year team having the most expensive tickets and hot dogs. If prices in Winnipeg have risen at a rate that out-paces the other 31 teams, they'll be higher on that list. I can guarantee you it doesn't cost a mere $87 to see a Coyotes game today.

However, even if that data is still mostly accurate today, it still doesn't address whatever economic situation is happening in Winnipeg as a city, the province of Manitoba, or in Canada at-large in everything from currency exchange rate (it was 1 CAD to 0.78 USD at this time in 2021. It's presently 0.73 USD), the economy, rate of inflation, rate of wage increase, etc. It's difficult for the folks who were attending games previously to continue attending if everything has gone up except for wages.

Furthermore, if TNSE has actually taken such a poor attitude towards fans as some have claimed, it's difficult for them to be willing to show up in the first place. But that's a cloud that has hovered over the AtlaPeg ThrashJets since Atlanta Spirit completed that purchase in 2004.

Just my CA$0.027

 

[Indrid Cold]

Move to Hartford as the Whalers...

 

[Section 104]

The thing I wonder about is why go to a game with

1) ticket prices
2) paying for parking (or train) and travel time
3) cramped seat and little leg room for a tall man like myself.
4) high priced food and and drink
5) constantly being hit with noise the arena pumps out
6) occasionally people nearby talking about working or whether the castaways will get off the island in tomorrow’s episode of “Gilligan’s Island” on MeTV
7) people in rows in front standing up blocking your view

when today large screen HDTV tvs hooked to a stereo with laz y boy recliners and refrigerators pay for themselves pretty quickly.

When hockey went off American network tv in the mid 1970s Stan Fischler wrote maybe one problem was for many people it was like trying to put the Atlantic Ocean in a goldfish bowl with the small screen low fi picture quality of the day.

I am sure there are other factors but this could be a biggie.

 

[cowboy82nd]

Neither is Atlanta

Atlanta is a major city, maybe not for hockey but definitely a major city.

 

[Roomtemperature]

Yes. They lost a large portion of their non vaccinated seat holders because they had to choose which side to support. The pro vaccinated crowd made it clear they weren't going to attend games if vaccinated mandadates weren't enforced. So the non vaccinated crowd was shut out and many have refused ro go back once those mandates were dropped. That was thousands of seat holders.

Well if the non Vax people are so stupid it shows us how bad the economy is if they are the ones with money

 

[Regal]

Inflation rate dropped to 3.8% in September. It's just over half the current global inflation rate Inflation isn't the problem. Corporate greed, especially in the area of food costs, the housing market; those are the issues for many.

Thousands of season ticket holders officially cancelled because of federal, provincial, or arena vaccine policies?

Inflation is still impacting a lot even if things have slowed down. If your income hasn’t changed the 6.5% from last year is still a pisser:

The thing I wonder about is why go to a game with

1) ticket prices
2) paying for parking (or train) and travel time
3) cramped seat and little leg room for a tall man like myself.
4) high priced food and and drink
5) constantly being hit with noise the arena pumps out
6) occasionally people nearby talking about working or whether the castaways will get off the island in tomorrow’s episode of “Gilligan’s Island” on MeTV
7) people in rows in front standing up blocking your view

when today large screen HDTV tvs hooked to a stereo with laz y boy recliners and refrigerators pay for themselves pretty quickly.

When hockey went off American network tv in the mid 1970s Stan Fischler wrote maybe one problem was for many people it was like trying to put the Atlantic Ocean in a goldfish bowl with the small screen low fi picture quality of the day.

I am sure there are other factors but this could be a biggie.

There’s something to be said for the atmosphere of the game, but yea, in general sports on TV is pretty awesome these days and it’s a lot of extra time and money to go to a game (at least 30 each way for me), especially when an 82 game season can have its share of duds

 

[KapG]

The thing I wonder about is why go to a game with

1) ticket prices
2) paying for parking (or train) and travel time
3) cramped seat and little leg room for a tall man like myself.
4) high priced food and and drink
5) constantly being hit with noise the arena pumps out
6) occasionally people nearby talking about working or whether the castaways will get off the island in tomorrow’s episode of “Gilligan’s Island” on MeTV
7) people in rows in front standing up blocking your view

when today large screen HDTV tvs hooked to a stereo with laz y boy recliners and refrigerators pay for themselves pretty quickly.

When hockey went off American network tv in the mid 1970s Stan Fischler wrote maybe one problem was for many people it was like trying to put the Atlantic Ocean in a goldfish bowl with the small screen low fi picture quality of the day.

I am sure there are other factors but this could be a biggie.

Amen!

Would rather watch the game in my TV room on our 75” C1.

 

[TheLegend]

Lmao

"Irony is a dish best served cold..... and it's cold on Twitter." - Ricardo Montalban in an alternate Star Trek Universe.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Nothing against the Jets, but yeah NHL, pump the brakes on expansion.

NHL and the teams want the expansion money

 

[Suntouchable13]

NHL and the teams want the expansion money

Then I hope more people stop attending games. 36 teams is way too many.

 

[Jumptheshark]

"Irony is a dish best served cold..... and it's cold on Twitter." - Ricardo Montalban in an arternate Star Trek Universe.

LOL

I actually watched Khan last night. The actual run time was 1h 45 minutes.,.. sometimes longer is not better

 

[larek]

Don't cry if the team get taken out of city again

 

[stranger]

Winnipeg isn't a wealthy city. The unreasonable lockdowns resulting in the crazy printing of money, etc, has decimated the economy.

 

[Negan4Coach]

I just want to point out it took 6 YEARS of the Canes struggling before our attendance dropped to this level, triggering all kinds of criticism that a team shouldn't be here, etc.

 

[IranCondraAffair]

Is it time yet to dig up the Winnipeg fan comments from when the Sens were struggling?