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Buchelnikov remind me Berggren, creates something all the time , only scores en
 
GoBoltz56 said:
I don't think Buchelnikov even has an empty net goal this year, not sure what you mean
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He got one today. I think he was trying to post along the lines of...

"Buchelnikov remind me Berggren, creates something all the time. Only scores EN this afternoon."
 
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lilidk said:
Buchelnikov remind me Berggren, creates something all the time , only scores en
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Buchelnikov has 19 points in 22 games (might not be counting today's game). If Berggren was making stuff happen, and generating points, no one would have an issue with him. Problem is Berggren might be working hard, but nothing is coming of it regardless of where he lines up.

But I think that's been the issue for the Wings as a whole. I see people talk about them being lazy...I don't think they are being lazy. I see a lot of guys skating and working out there but I don't see a whole lot of chemistry.
 
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Winger98 said:
Buchelnikov has 19 points in 22 games (might not be counting today's game). If Berggren was making stuff happen, and generating points, no one would have an issue with him. Problem is Berggren might be working hard, but nothing is coming of it regardless of where he lines up.

But I think that's been the issue for the Wings as a whole. I see people talk about them being lazy...I don't think they are being lazy. I see a lot of guys skating and working out there but I don't see a whole lot of chemistry.
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Sound like a coaching issue.
 
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lilidk said:
Buchelnikov remind me Berggren, creates something all the time , only scores en
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What Berggren are you watching? He has created very few chances with the Wings so far this season. He had the nice assist on Tank's goal and a couple other decent passes, but that is about it so far.
 
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Oddbob said:
What Berggren are you watching? He has created very few chances with the Wings so far this season. He had the nice assist on Tank's goal and a couple other decent passes, but that is about it so far.
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He is playing on the third line with horrible this season Tarasenko. Trade Tarasenko and bring Elmer for couple of games, then try Lombardi. Lombardi is a very good prospect , but he needs another year in GR, but just for couple of games bring him in. Trade Tarasenko and replace him with ether Elmer , Lombardi or Mazur
 
Winger98 said:
But I think that's been the issue for the Wings as a whole. I see people talk about them being lazy...I don't think they are being lazy. I see a lot of guys skating and working out there but I don't see a whole lot of chemistry.
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Agree with this. Effort is mostly pretty good, including from Berggren. Main issue IMO is that with the Ed-Seider pairing getting close to the same extreme defensive usage as Seider had last season, and the other two pairs not having a lot of skill, it's pretty much entirely up to every line's devices to create chances. It's just very difficult to do that when the D is mostly a non-factor offensively, and on balance there is less skill up front than last season. With recent line shuffle, they are down to one line that can be counted on to create anything on their own, and one pair that, if they can get up-ice from all their d-zone starts, has enough skill to contribute to creating chances.

There have been good stretches and IMO they are improving at moving the puck out of their end, but they are really going to have to count on their PP to generate enough goals to compensate for ES issues.
 
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OldnotDeadWings said:
Agree with this. Effort is mostly pretty good, including from Berggren. Main issue IMO is that with the Ed-Seider pairing getting close to the same extreme defensive usage as Seider had last season, and the other two pairs not having a lot of skill, it's pretty much entirely up to every line's devices to create chances. It's just very difficult to do that when the D is mostly a non-factor offensively, and on balance there is less skill up front than last season. With recent line shuffle, they are down to one line that can be counted on to create anything on their own, and one pair that, if they can get up-ice from all their d-zone starts, has enough skill to contribute to creating chances.

There have been good stretches and IMO they are improving at moving the puck out of their end, but they are really going to have to count on their PP to generate enough goals to compensate for ES issues.
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Hopefully by the last 20 games or so Al Jo has won the coaches confidence and is looking good on the second pairing.
 
odin1981 said:
Hopefully by the last 20 games or so Al Jo has won the coaches confidence and is looking good on the second pairing.
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Yeah I like AlJo and we'll see how he grows during the season. I mean, it's early. There is still lots of time to take a look at potential solutions, including more tinkering with all lines and giving AlJo a bigger role, hopefully sooner than Game 60.
 
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OldnotDeadWings said:
Yeah I like AlJo and we'll see how he grows during the season. I mean, it's early. There is still lots of time to take a look at potential solutions, including more tinkering with all lines and giving AlJo a bigger role, hopefully sooner than Game 60.
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I figure it will take half a year of good play to earn top 4 time. But I felt like giving a conservative estimate.
 
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Frk It said:
I don't think you can/should fault him for wanting to stay home and play in the SHL.
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Sure I can.

Look, I am not mad about it, I understand wanting to be closer to home for the year. Opinions differ on which is the better development path, but my opinion is the same as Yzerman's on this. He would of been closer to the NHL had he gone to the Griffs and they could sorely use him right now since Mazur got knocked out.
 
Pavels Dog said:
Why would that have anything to do with MBN's decision?
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New coach could come in and may not like him and bench him, or give him a lot less opportunity. Hard to tell right now, but I have to believe part of the decision for MBN to go back to the SHL was some kind of comfort level with Skellefta's coaching staff and now that is gone.

No way would that have been the case in GR.

Look, I don't think it matters that much, I believe dude is going to be a beast for us either way.
 
RED WINGS STOMP said:
New coach could come in and may not like him and bench him, or give him a lot less opportunity. Hard to tell right now, but I have to believe part of the decision for MBN to go back to the SHL was some kind of comfort level with Skellefta's coaching staff and now that is gone.

No way would that have been the case in GR.

Look, I don't think it matters that much, I believe dude is going to be a beast for us either way.
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Yeah, everyone predicted Ohlsson would make stupid comments in the media and get fired. How couldn't MBN see that coming.
 
Frk It said:
I don't think you can/should fault him for wanting to stay home and play in the SHL.
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But Skelleftea isnt his home, it's his first season in that organization.

It was a mistake not going to Grand Rapids, but not a massive one.
 
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