Windsor Spitfires 2023-24 Season Thread (Part One)
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U guys have some great players but if I'm noticing one thing in these 2 meetings we've had is a lot of selfishness/solo efforts.
Especially in the 3rd today. Guys going 1on3 or 1on4. If they can start working together I think you'll finish in a solid spot, but it's rough right now.
Just my 2 cents tho nobody probably wants to hear it here haha. Rooting for Nesbitt hope he can get going soon!
Especially in the 3rd today. Guys going 1on3 or 1on4. If they can start working together I think you'll finish in a solid spot, but it's rough right now.
Just my 2 cents tho nobody probably wants to hear it here haha. Rooting for Nesbitt hope he can get going soon!
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OHLTG
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A few thoughts on this one...
- The first 40 minutes weren't bad at all. They skated with the Sting, had lead(s), and played solid hockey. This was the game we expected after the NB win; get some momentum going and see where it takes them.
- Michelone played very well. Sure, he let in five but he made some monster saves.
- I really like Davis' game; he'll score but he'll throw the body, too.
- Peer with an absolute highlight-reel goal, maybe even a GoY candidate. If he hasn't solidified an OA spot, what are we doing?
- Nesbitt seems to be getting more comfortable in the league. It's just a matter of time before he plants his first. Plus, he likes to get involved, which I won't complain about.
- Eichler is still learning but he's showing all kinds of promise. He's quick, loves to get involved, and plays a simple game.
- Windsor had a ton of looks on the PP; going 0/4 doesn't tell the story. The Sting had a solid PK at the right times.
Now...
- The final 20... I don't know what that was. Two goals in the opening two minutes was painful; you could see the momentum swing. Davis' goal was a beauty but they had to make sure the Sting didn't respond.
- Three goals against in an eight minute span; the wheels not only came off but they were flung into the nearby field.
- The Sting went 2/7 on the PP but how many stupid penalties were there from Windsor? I get that things happen but Delay of Game calls and a needless cross-check... you have to be smarter, esp when the Sting have all the momentum.
- The Smith/Young fight (I was right there... it wasn't MacDonald. Clear "ung" on the Sting jersey) was quick and ugly. Young caught him with a right and down they go. Smith was bleeding and went off for repairs.
- That started the rest of the shenanigans. You could tell that the Spits were itching for something. After the fight, the trash talking was going hard, Windsor wasn't going to go down without a fight, and they didn't care who they had. On one hand, it was facepalm worthy; there was no need for much of it. In the end, the Sting know they can get into the Spitfires' heads and that mental game is just as important as the physical one. On the other hand, I'm glad the Spits showed the physical side of their game and were willing to get involved. On a third hand, where was that for the previous 55 minutes?
This game was a teachable moment. Jerrod Smith said on Thursday that winning in this league is tough and Windsor saw exactly that tonight. They were up 2-0 and allowed six of the next seven. The defence fell asleep on a few goals and it can't continue to happen. It's a learning process but...
Live, learn, and get ready for Soo on Monday.
- The first 40 minutes weren't bad at all. They skated with the Sting, had lead(s), and played solid hockey. This was the game we expected after the NB win; get some momentum going and see where it takes them.
- Michelone played very well. Sure, he let in five but he made some monster saves.
- I really like Davis' game; he'll score but he'll throw the body, too.
- Peer with an absolute highlight-reel goal, maybe even a GoY candidate. If he hasn't solidified an OA spot, what are we doing?
- Nesbitt seems to be getting more comfortable in the league. It's just a matter of time before he plants his first. Plus, he likes to get involved, which I won't complain about.
- Eichler is still learning but he's showing all kinds of promise. He's quick, loves to get involved, and plays a simple game.
- Windsor had a ton of looks on the PP; going 0/4 doesn't tell the story. The Sting had a solid PK at the right times.
Now...
- The final 20... I don't know what that was. Two goals in the opening two minutes was painful; you could see the momentum swing. Davis' goal was a beauty but they had to make sure the Sting didn't respond.
- Three goals against in an eight minute span; the wheels not only came off but they were flung into the nearby field.
- The Sting went 2/7 on the PP but how many stupid penalties were there from Windsor? I get that things happen but Delay of Game calls and a needless cross-check... you have to be smarter, esp when the Sting have all the momentum.
- The Smith/Young fight (I was right there... it wasn't MacDonald. Clear "ung" on the Sting jersey) was quick and ugly. Young caught him with a right and down they go. Smith was bleeding and went off for repairs.
- That started the rest of the shenanigans. You could tell that the Spits were itching for something. After the fight, the trash talking was going hard, Windsor wasn't going to go down without a fight, and they didn't care who they had. On one hand, it was facepalm worthy; there was no need for much of it. In the end, the Sting know they can get into the Spitfires' heads and that mental game is just as important as the physical one. On the other hand, I'm glad the Spits showed the physical side of their game and were willing to get involved. On a third hand, where was that for the previous 55 minutes?
This game was a teachable moment. Jerrod Smith said on Thursday that winning in this league is tough and Windsor saw exactly that tonight. They were up 2-0 and allowed six of the next seven. The defence fell asleep on a few goals and it can't continue to happen. It's a learning process but...
Live, learn, and get ready for Soo on Monday.
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thought they played a decent first period and were rewarded with the goal but as the 2nd rolled along you could start to see the wheels fall off, the third period was atrocious, how many breakaways are we gonna give up, the dman are pinching at terrible times, the sting played last night and seemed to have more jump as the game went on, why does Smith put Jodoin out on the ice in the last-minute like that, the game was already outta hand, he was strictly out there looking for something, you can tell it didn't sit well with the sting hc with the stare down he was giving the spits bench.
hopefully Monday will be a better showing and result.
hopefully Monday will be a better showing and result.
The squad didn't play bad but the same defensive mistakes cost them. The reffing wasn't good either, Sarnia had a streak of 4 straight PP in about a 13 minute span late in the 2nd into the 3rd which swung the momentum. Regardless, Sarnia is expected to be one of the worst teams in the OHL this year and the Spits have yet to beat them in two meetings. Not a great sign. I know Sarnia will likely be trading Sikic, Vilimanis etc. as they need picks but still, they have scored five goals in two games against them.
This is a rebuilding year for sure, but you still want to be battling for 4-5th in the conference at best. It's a young defense, hopefully they improve as the season goes on. Will be nice to get Christopoulis back soon. Tough game on Monday against an improved SOO squad.
This is a rebuilding year for sure, but you still want to be battling for 4-5th in the conference at best. It's a young defense, hopefully they improve as the season goes on. Will be nice to get Christopoulis back soon. Tough game on Monday against an improved SOO squad.
I think when you're facing a team 2nd game of back to back and get whipped in the 3rd it looks bad on everyone.
77 continues to be on ice when opposing team scores..
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First part of the game was fine . M looked solid for a young tender. The last part was a cluster… defense horrid. Sadly it’s the older players who are letting them down. But it’s very very early in the season. (Unfortunately).What I expect to see is a number of the better players quietly asking to be moved elsewhere.Attendance will suffer. The ownership has to try to figure the best way out of this and it won’t be pretty.
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Ive said this already. Losing is acceptable when the team is working hard and doing things right. This team isnt doing those things. Rebuilding doesnt mean careless/lacklustre hockey is ok. Coaches must motivate, teach, and have the player’s attention. This team looks chaotic right now.
Agreed. I hate when people use the term "rebuild" because sometimes the connotation is one of that it's ok to lose. Yes you probably lose games but don't do it the way the Spits are. Never has a team getting the first goal of the game mean so little.
Sarnia is in a retooling year and they lost top 6 goal scorers and Gaudreau from last year. The Spits lost 2 of their top 6 . What's are excuse? Effort and discipline.
Windsor played half a game.
Had chances. Kept crowd into it.
Peer scored a nice goal.
Even got a few bounces.
Last half was a shit show.
Sloppy passes. Too much stick checking.
Coaching horrible.
Defense wasn't good. They really don't hit or actually play good systems.
Goalie looked confident till Defense left him out to dry too often.
Last minute of play, coaches had no clue.
A win Monday is very needed.
Had chances. Kept crowd into it.
Peer scored a nice goal.
Even got a few bounces.
Last half was a shit show.
Sloppy passes. Too much stick checking.
Coaching horrible.
Defense wasn't good. They really don't hit or actually play good systems.
Goalie looked confident till Defense left him out to dry too often.
Last minute of play, coaches had no clue.
A win Monday is very needed.
OHLTG
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Interesting comment from Morneau after last night's game (during the post-game interviews). He said that Jerrod Smith "between periods said we don't need any more goals to win. We gotta manage the puck, get pucks in, and work their D-men." When you're up 2-1 against a team that's proven it can score AND just made it a one-goal game, you have to press the gas pedal. Get that third goal asap to prevent the momentum from going anywhere. Preach defence when you're up 4-1 or 5-1 and there's little chance of a comeback.
I think both can be true. You should always manage the puck....( like, ya don't dump it in on a 3 on 1 or 4on 2 i doubt was coaches idea) If in managing the puck, players do as was posted here trying to go 1 on 3 or playing as an individual. ....it leads to issues and it has.
Pucks deep n working the D can lead to turnovers n opportunities if you team has a good forecheck.
Not trying to argue but the coaches messaging here doesn't mean don't try n score, it probly means be smart ( which again based on the posts here as a collective is something the team may not have been doing so far )
Have been in dressing rooms alot during with competitive teams and hearing alot of coach speak live in game as opposed to a post game quote, that's how I woulda taken it.
It's still early. Maybe the coach did mean dont keep playing hard ( gas to the floor, but I wouldn't take it that way. I'd take it as be smart, work your azz off)
OHLTG
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If the quote was "keep pucks in, pressure the D, and be smart offensively", then I can see an offensive approach. To say you don't need anymore goals feels far more defensive, at least to me.
He never said take your foot off the gas or don't keep the pedal down or dont score. In fact I take the statement as 100% factual and highlights be smart, try hard and keep pushing. ( he was trying to focus a terrible D team according to all those posting here to committ, never said don't score)
He said be smart and his statement was true. If ya cant play smart situational hockey you eventually pay the price. Can't just run n gun to a 4-1 5-1 lead then try n lock it down.
Reading between the lines I take it as ya can't just play O n expect to win. Take your shot if there, bust your azz and make the smart play while also being aggressive on the forecheck.
No biggie ypu take the quote as you see it. But ask the coach next time ya see him if he meant take the foot of the gas or get off the pedal. I'll bet he didn't
Sounds like you disagree with being hard on opponents D when the right play and preach run n gun til up by 3/4 goals. Odd esp with all the comebacks the Spits were known for after last 2 years Ida thought you could see the error in pushing for a 4-1, 5-1 lead then preach D. You saw first hand how it didn't work.
Saying to players be smart, be hard on their D isn't preaching a defensive shell, it's actually promoting aggressiveness. Holding off pressuring D is a defensive shell. He adked them to be aggressive.
It's all good we see it different based on our experiences. I've heard coaches in rooms say this type thing often. It never meant be passive, and almost successful teams preach D awareness, managing the puck, being hard on the opponents.
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I disagree. He said it and if the player quoted him perfectly in the post game ( context matters)
I'll stand by the comment as nothing more than be smart, be hard on pucks in the O zone. And don't be an individual. Take what's there and MANAGE the puck smartly. Something almost unanimously complained on this board. I'm so confused lol
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