OHLTG
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Yeah, one of the players mentioned it during a post-game interview a week or two ago. Something about the transition btwn Savard and Smith and how the systems were similar with minor tweaks (paraphrasing).
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Yeah, one of the players mentioned it during a post-game interview a week or two ago. Something about the transition btwn Savard and Smith and how the systems were similar with minor tweaks (paraphrasing).
I just edited end of my post. Even with a down year they need to preserve the goodwill the helped bring back over last 2 reg seasons n POs 2 years ago. And that's more than Ws or where you place
Guelph had a similar record at this time last season and made some quick changes and was able to finish 6th in the conference.
I don't see them getting to 6th but changes need to be made before the next game or they will lose the entire fan base. The FB group is mostly season ticket holders and most are already done.
I don't see them getting to 6th but changes need to be made before the next game or they will lose the entire fan base. The FB group is mostly season ticket holders and most are already done.
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More the former but can't rule out the latter, too.
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Barn Burner. Changes need to be made this week. Either move some of these older guys out that dont want to play hard and the right way or Jarred Smith needs to be relieved of his duties. Something is not clicking. Its ultimately upto this coaching staff to prepare this team for battle, right now we look like a bunch of unorganized timbit players. Continuing to see the same abysmal effort and structure game after game, most team get better as the season progresses but were in trouble because the spits are getting worse. Couple goals down and this team folds into a shell. Play with some pride and effort out there.
Should be embarrassed....
Should be embarrassed....
So how much better would the team be? Replacing Michelone is fine but that's not making Costanzo better. You said Jodoin has value at the beginning of the year. He hasn't been good but I don't think he's any different than the past couple years. It looks worse because he doesn't have real good players around him. I never said to fire Smith. If they continue to play like this Bowler may not have a choice. Whether we like it or not Bowler and Smith need to wear some of this. Decide the % of blame but it doesn't matter much.
Don't you think Smith should be fired right now? The team is getting worse by the game, they are not even close. I mean, there is no worse team in the entire CHL than the Spitfires.
Here is Bowler's quote after the opening week of the season:
"We have a lot of talent at every position and we have a great mix of veterans and first and second-year players too. We have size, speed and skill throughout our lineup and we have a lot of depth so when the turnover in our roster happens every season it is not as drastic as it could be. I have been saving it for awhile now that we want to be competitive every season instead of loading up for just one season. We like the makeup of our team and we just have to wait and get everyone healthy and back into our lineup and see how things play out from there."
lmao what a joke.
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Michelone has been alright but maybe he's not enough insurance behind Costanzo. If you bring in a veteran who knows the league, that gives Costanzo some help, plus maybe bouncing ideas off of each other.
Yes, I said Jodoin had value at the start of the season. However, he hasn't been the policeman, he hasn't put up points, and he's been questionable defensively. I'd love to see him get more involved and be the player I know he can be. It just hasn't happened yet, which is disappointing.
Yes you can make a case Smith should be fired. The question is who do you hire? If the team is going to be bad you may just have to hire another coach in the off-season. I think the players, head coach and gm all have to take responsibility. If they canned Smith that's fine. That's not going to salvage the year either. There is a talent issue that isn't going to be fixed immediately.
This!
But he did load up last season so WTF?
I get media speak but that's just BS. The rest is expected to be said, but he must not give the fans much credit to say that this year instead of owning the fact he did a 180 n it didn't work out.
Again no problem with loading up, but own it, don't outright lie to the loyal fan base. Maybe explain why you choose to pivot after the year before.
Wonder if they could pry mike vellucci out of Pittsburgh and give him both coach and gm roles. Doubt he'd want to leave the nhl (doubt they'd pay him enough to do so) and also doubt he would want to come coach his old rival that is currently a dumpster fire. One could dream however...
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I did not watch today’s game so can’t really comment on how they played but I have watched 4 so far. In almost every game it has appeared our opponents want the puck more than we do. My guess is the season ticket holders are in the 3000-3200 range. Those folks already laid out their cash and some must be wishing they could get a refund. Expect some changes very soon…….some won’t surprise you, some will.
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The danger in that is this: What if they both have the same idea between them....not much bounce if that's the situation. More like a dull thud !
The only ideas they should be bouncing off themselves is making more saves. No it's not their fault but still.
The disconnect and lack of leadership behind the bench and on the ice is incredible. How many Spits commit to blocking a shot to help the team? We are so soft at both ends might as well be non-contact hockey. Poor Nesbitt, a rookie is already showing frustration. Cristoforo is NO Ryan Ellis to date as advertised. Our veteran D Dionicio and Jodoin play better at wing than D and you wonder why we struggle. Putting Cristoforo and Dionicio as a pairing is a joke. Then Smith puts rookies Eichler and Woodall together. Setting up for complete failure The roster is on Bowler Wrong OA candidates were moved, let go before the season started. Now trading underperforming OAS remaining will bring next to zero back this time of year. Martin scratched tonight is the only zero player on the team. Does that make any sense?? The question is how much is this a Bowler issue, how much Smith lack of ability or a team of lazy selfish players not listening and executing a game plan? A bit of all 3. Need to change the culture before our 16-17 yr olds are scarred. Constanzo and Michelone have given up. Hard to watch a high end goalie prospect spiral in confidence. Much like Downey. London traded Smith because he wouldn't put in 110% game in game out. Shocker it hasn't changed. Give Dale Hunter credit although he is archaic for icing a hard working system orienting team, year in and year out. Associate coaches are more of a buddy to the players but you need 100 % respect from your players when you are a head coach. You might as well change the Spits name to the " turn your back stick checkers" although it may not fit on a jersey.
Not enough talent, agreed, but under no scenario should the team be this bad. They are on pace to concede 433 goals. For context, the Ice Dogs squandered 350 goals last year. That's 80 more goals than the Ice Dogs did. Just pathetic.
I don’t necessarily disagree with him on bringing in a vet. Just…bouncing ideas off each other? Like what? “Hey Constanzo! You ever think about holding your glove straight above your head?”
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Haha it has been a terrible start, for sure.
We’re looking at kids like:
Braidy Wassilyn
Logan Hawery
Adam Valentini
Alex Mclean
Zachary Nyman
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Here's something to consider: Both the Rangers and the Spitfires began this season with a new head coach. Last season, Ranger fans were calling for the firing & replacement of their coach at the time. ( sound familiar ? ) Well, Ranger fans got their wish in the off season, and a new head coach was hired. It would seem that those same fans are now generally satisfied with the present state of affairs, and their team's start is indicative of a shift in attitude and culture. BTW, their coach was selected from as far from their organization as could be had, and NOT an internal promotion, as had been their inclination with previous hires. Just some food for thought....your team is better than they're presently showing. Their will to win has to be re-ignited.
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