he woudlnt have a no trade but your missing the main point, and i think on purpose, but when was the last time you saw anything other then 'all is great' in a pr release?
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Advantage London, remember their FAs prior to U18 draft? I suppose 10 rounds and 5 rounds for U18 would be ok.
OHLTG
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According to the Windsor Star, he had a no-trade clause and waived it to come here. I get your point but maybe he actually is happy to be here.
Trade for former Red Wings draft pick Mathurin is the defensive addition the Spitfires needed
Overage defenceman Tnias Mathurin knows exactly what the Windsor Spitfires are looking for.
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so if you get my point, why keep doing it when trades and signings happen? we went back and forth earlier this year about it and you conceded then, and here we are doing it over again.According to the Windsor Star, he had a no-trade clause and waived it to come here. I get your point but maybe he actually is happy to be here.
Trade for former Red Wings draft pick Mathurin is the defensive addition the Spitfires needed
Overage defenceman Tnias Mathurin knows exactly what the Windsor Spitfires are looking for.
its like in pittsburgh, do you think they are going to say 'well, we are going to try but we really dont see us making the playoffs this year', or do you think they will say 'we believe we can win the stanley cup, thats our goal every year'
of course they will say the second part, but they believe the first part. so why take anything anyone says publically to heart? its all pr speak.
Agreed, that's very good value for a very solid OA Dman.
Spits needed to tighten up the backend and this certainly helps
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Well good move/bad move that can be judged in April. But it was a move Bowler had to make considering the state of the defensive core. If he stays healthy and they don't move him again in January it does , for me, lean to the positive side.
I'm also glad Bowler has declared that these are the 3 OA's he is going with. Makes everything clearer for the rest involved.
And lastly I'm not really sure he is done. There might be a pure hockey trade in there somewhere to help with the D group? Carry on.
I'm also glad Bowler has declared that these are the 3 OA's he is going with. Makes everything clearer for the rest involved.
And lastly I'm not really sure he is done. There might be a pure hockey trade in there somewhere to help with the D group? Carry on.
Right. You get canned responses. A great example was when the Spits brought back Zito. He was interviewed between periods in a game and talked about how happy he was and he wanted to be back with the Spits. A week later he was gone.
Every GM thinks they had a good draft.
Happy with the move but none of the other stuff matters other than performing on the ice.
i forgot about zito thats a good point. his public comments where one thing but he didnt make it other then a few games. he wasnt going to say if he was or was not struggling mentally in a pr release, so why use it at all?
One more add on. The last time Spitfire related a player was angry and not wanting to be here was when the Spits traded for Paul Mara. He wasn't going to report and was traded to Plymouth for pennies.
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Has anyone talked about Colton Smith's next move? He's been listed as an option but... school? trade? Moving on with life? I haven't heard a peep. Then, for Bowler to say today's trade gives us the OAs to start the season, I wonder...
i believe he was on waivers earlier in the summer, but dont quote me.
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Neither of these surprise me (or would surprise me). Hopefully something is said before camp.
Really shouldn't of been traded to Windsor.
Looked more of a favor then anything..
Doubt it.
Bowler starts talking now...
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Im gonna say he ok with coming here as he lifted his trade clause. The biggest question is his health. I like the deal, like it better if hes healthy all year.
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Looks as if BB has added to the D for a reasonable price. It’s early and you can expect a few more moves will be made to solidify the team before all is said and done. Some moves will get a meh …some hopefully a Wowzer. Just need to be patient.
of course he’s fine with it, it’s more so silly to take every quote in the website as legit when everyone knows it’s not how it works. websites are for selling tickets not hard news.
if there’s a quote saying how all the players are super excited to play for Greg Walters do we just accept it, no because no player is going to say the truth on a team website, and even if they said something negative they wouldn’t publish it. so what’s the point in quoting in?
Agreed about the reasonable price especially considering prior to deal completed Windsor had 3-2nd round picks SSM,Kitchener Brantfords,and moved the one Brantfords which I expect will be later then having dealt the Kitchener or Saults pick,plus they still have their 3rd rd pick, along with of course their 1st.
In 2026 they currently have 1st,2nd,2-3rds,and a 4th(Ottawa).
And in 2027 they currently have ,1st,2-2nds and 2-4ths.
Bowler after going for it prior to this past season back to back years replenished the shelves masterfully and I feel benefits will happen moving forward.
In other words short term pain,long term gain.
"Masterfully"? Guess the bar is low. They have 1 extra 2nd now and an extra 4th? Others have added far more 2nds,3rds n 4ths or youth after going for it 2 years previously and didn't also say we won't have the big swings like BB said and then abandoned the plan.
No need for the hyperbole when it isn't true.
He did good, got picks back, added a couple more, agreed but masterful........not compared to some other teams that went for it and had the cupboards overflowing.
Heck some teams have added an extra couple 2nds over a year or 2 without going for it previously lol.
My biggest issue would be abandoning the plan sold to fans. But I don't disagree that after not adding big and losing out on a championship potentially he flipped gears ( something u said was a failure of other teams
). Different bar for you I guess than league wide. It's all good.
That's fair. Recouping picks after a failed prior year and going in the tank is doing your job. What happens afterward matters. For instance Kitchener just went out even before camp opens and traded their most valuable asset. Last year Bowler wanted to see if he could do both and well we saw what happened."Masterfully"? Guess the bar is low. They have 1 extra 2nd now and an extra 4th? Others have added far more 2nds,3rds n 4ths or youth after going for it 2 years previously and didn't also say we won't have the big swings like BB said and then abandoned the plan.
No need for the hyperbole when it isn't true.
He did good, got picks back, added a couple more, agreed but masterful........not compared to some other teams that went for it and had the cupboards overflowing.
Heck some teams have added an extra couple 2nds over a year or 2 without going for it previously lol.
My biggest issue would be abandoning the plan sold to fans. But I don't disagree that after not adding big and losing out on a championship potentially he flipped gears ( something u said was a failure of other teams
Different bar for you I guess than league wide. It's all good.
I guess the best way to pose it would be if the Spits were to be average be an 8th seed or so. Going into the 25-26 year would Bowler ever entertain moving Greentree or Spellacy before the season?
Take a look at what Hamilton/Brantford has done over the past 5 years. Take a look at their draft cupboard (overflowing) while staying relevant and will be in contention again this year. That’s more on the scale of masterful than what BB has done.
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Bowler's done a solid job in recovering the picks. I'm not sure I'd call it "masterful" right now but it's a solid step in the right direction. Now, he needs the 2024 draft and Import draft to pan out. He got the assets, he used the assets, but they're only good if they become what you need down the road.
The benefit of having ownership with hockey connections. The distinction between the Boughner era and the current group.
Anyone here know what the billets get paid to keep players?
Anyone here know what the billets get paid to keep players?
Always different.."Masterfully"? Guess the bar is low. They have 1 extra 2nd now and an extra 4th? Others have added far more 2nds,3rds n 4ths or youth after going for it 2 years previously and didn't also say we won't have the big swings like BB said and then abandoned the plan.
No need for the hyperbole when it isn't true.
He did good, got picks back, added a couple more, agreed but masterful........not compared to some other teams that went for it and had the cupboards overflowing.
Heck some teams have added an extra couple 2nds over a year or 2 without going for it previously lol.
My biggest issue would be abandoning the plan sold to fans. But I don't disagree that after not adding big and losing out on a championship potentially he flipped gears ( something u said was a failure of other teams
Different bar for you I guess than league wide. It's all good.
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