Windsor Spitfires 2023-24 Off-Season Thread

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The current ranked top 5 for the draft is Valentini, Wassilyn, Nyman, Hage. Belchetz. Size concerns for Valentini 5-8" Nyman and Hage 5-9" ?? .Wassilyn 6-2" Belchetz 6-4".
Nyman has indicated he is heading state side, he will likely end up in London. If I was picking from what I've read Belchetz might be worth a 1st or second pick. I would be looking to land him. But all of the above would be talented players so can't see a bad pick in the top 4.
 

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The current ranked top 5 for the draft is Valentini, Wassilyn, Nyman, Hage. Belchetz. Size concerns for Valentini 5-8" Nyman and Hage 5-9" ?? .Wassilyn 6-2" Belchetz 6-4".
Hopefully they don't go small.
Already have enough small forwards
 

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The current ranked top 5 for the draft is Valentini, Wassilyn, Nyman, Hage. Belchetz. Size concerns for Valentini 5-8" Nyman and Hage 5-9" ?? .Wassilyn 6-2" Belchetz 6-4".
Scouting report February. Elite hasn't updated theirs since February 1 2023. Maybe German Spitfire will shed latest rankings soon. Belchetz is compared to Greentree. Wassilyn big time hard shot. Valentini playmaker.
 

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Other than Davis (so-so playmaker) we have Abraham likely as an OA. We need playmaker for Greentree, Spellacy as well as Nesbitt and possibly adding a Wassilyn or a Belchetz. We are power forward heavy with high skill but need playmaker as well. Not sure a 5-8" Valentini would excel in this league. Greentree's numbers slowed after Peer and Maillet were moved. Maybe take a big forward and use picks to bring in a couple of experienced playmaker. Defence we need lots of help but another offensive minded smaller D is not what we need for a couple of years.
 

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Other than Davis (so-so playmaker) we have Abraham likely as an OA. We need playmaker for Greentree, Spellacy as well as Nesbitt and possibly adding a Wassilyn or a Belchetz. We are power forward heavy with high skill but need playmaker as well. Not sure a 5-8" Valentini would excel in this league. Greentree's numbers slowed after Peer and Maillet were moved. Maybe take a big forward and use picks to bring in a couple of experienced playmaker. Defence we need lots of help but another offensive minded smaller D is not what we need for a couple of years.
Need a actual full coaching staff that knows what they r doing would be a start.
Gone cheap and team has payed for it..
 
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Scouting report February. Elite hasn't updated theirs since February 1 2023. Maybe German Spitfire will shed latest rankings soon. Belchetz is compared to Greentree. Wassilyn big time hard shot. Valentini playmaker.
I still think the plan has to be to build around the 06’s. So when drafting 08’s we’ll need guys that will adjust sooner than later. Unfortunately, if there’s two next to equal skilled players, you have to take the bigger one.

Wassilyn with a hard shot, would he be described as a sniper? Because I feel like that’s something we’ve been lacking for a while.

I’m super excited for our 06’s next season. Greentree, Spellacy, Christoforo, Davis, Woodall, Walton… man that’s a lot to build around. I’m going to be completely honest though, I’m scared for the NHL Draft.. if Greentree gets snagged by a team that’s desperate for forwards now, or a team that wants some depth for a playoff push, he may be out in the same fashion as Wyatt.

Hopefully Nesbitt adds some lbs to his 6’4 frame this off-season. Hasn’t blown me away this year, but I see some potential there.

I like Morneaus game and I give Smith more crap than he deserves, but I really hope we can improve the OA situation.
 

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I still think the plan has to be to build around the 06’s. So when drafting 08’s we’ll need guys that will adjust sooner than later. Unfortunately, if there’s two next to equal skilled players, you have to take the bigger one.

Wassilyn with a hard shot, would he be described as a sniper? Because I feel like that’s something we’ve been lacking for a while.

I’m super excited for our 06’s next season. Greentree, Spellacy, Christoforo, Davis, Woodall, Walton… man that’s a lot to build around. I’m going to be completely honest though, I’m scared for the NHL Draft.. if Greentree gets snagged by a team that’s desperate for forwards now, or a team that wants some depth for a playoff push, he may be out in the same fashion as Wyatt.

Hopefully Nesbitt adds some lbs to his 6’4 frame this off-season. Hasn’t blown me away this year, but I see some potential there.

I like Morneaus game and I give Smith more crap than he deserves, but I really hope we can improve the OA situation.
Could be Chicago..
 

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I still think the plan has to be to build around the 06’s. So when drafting 08’s we’ll need guys that will adjust sooner than later. Unfortunately, if there’s two next to equal skilled players, you have to take the bigger one.

Wassilyn with a hard shot, would he be described as a sniper? Because I feel like that’s something we’ve been lacking for a while.

I’m super excited for our 06’s next season. Greentree, Spellacy, Christoforo, Davis, Woodall, Walton… man that’s a lot to build around. I’m going to be completely honest though, I’m scared for the NHL Draft.. if Greentree gets snagged by a team that’s desperate for forwards now, or a team that wants some depth for a playoff push, he may be out in the same fashion as Wyatt.

Hopefully Nesbitt adds some lbs to his 6’4 frame this off-season. Hasn’t blown me away this year, but I see some potential there.

I like Morneaus game and I give Smith more crap than he deserves, but I really hope we can improve the OA situation.
Agree. Regards to Greentree, he is a good offensive quick shot threat but his 200 ft game is poorly lacking to move onto the next level. He'sphysicalbut not physicalenough to slot in on a 3rd 4th NHL line. He is not a center. He'll be picked mid to late 1st round by a team already making the playoffs. Make work project. Not quite a 20o ft Cuylee type player yet. Back next year and possibly 25-26 season. Would not surprise me if a slow to develop NHL team picks him.
 
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Liam is curently ranked 14th. That currently slots him to be picked without surprises by Washington, Detroit, Minnesota, ST. Louis. None of those teams rush prospects.
 
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Agree. Regards to Greentree, he is a good offensive quick shot threat but his 200 ft game is poorly lacking to move onto the next level. He'sphysicalbut not physicalenough to slot in on a 3rd 4th NHL line. He is not a center. He'll be picked mid to late 1st round by a team already making the playoffs. Make work project. Not quite a 20o ft Cuylee type player yet. Back next year and possibly 25-26 season. Would not surprise me if a slow to develop NHL team picks him.
Crazy thought.
Would Bowler trade him next January?
Or status quo nothing changes hide...
 
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Greentree's not going anywhere until at least 2025-26. This team should be better next season, aiming for 5-7th seed. He'll get a chance to lead for the entire season and they can go from there.
Agree with both comments. Greentree needs more time. Tons of talent but needs to up his foot speed and his D game . Similar to Cuylle. will be a beast in the OHL in 2 years.
 

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It would not surprise me.....mismanagement has set this team into a downward spiral.

The Spits need to clean house and put a proper management team in place !
Doubt you will get your wish,one bad season season sends a bad message to prospective applicants,especially after overall 2 excellent seasons before this one,so if 1 bad season rules then Peterborough better fire their GM then,jr hockey is cylical,Spits didn't make playoffs in 15 and Rychel didn't lose his job.
Toss in the fact Windsor only team in league to lose a player early age 19 to the NHL,Foudy,Johnston and Wright 3 straight years if that doesn't have an impact then nothing does.
 
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Doubt you will get your wish,one bad season season sends a bad message to prospective applicants,especially after overall 2 excellent seasons before this one,so if 1 bad season rules then Peterborough better fire their GM then,jr hockey is cylical,Spits didn't make playoffs in 15 and Rychel didn't lose his job.
Toss in the fact Windsor only team in league to lose a player early age 19 to the NHL,Foudy,Johnston and Wright 3 straight years if that doesn't have an impact then nothing does.
The twists n turns u make..
Not every team is clylical...
 

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Doubt you will get your wish,one bad season season sends a bad message to prospective applicants,especially after overall 2 excellent seasons before this one,so if 1 bad season rules then Peterborough better fire their GM then,jr hockey is cylical,Spits didn't make playoffs in 15 and Rychel didn't lose his job.
Toss in the fact Windsor only team in league to lose a player early age 19 to the NHL,Foudy,Johnston and Wright 3 straight years if that doesn't have an impact then nothing does.
Their not trading a likely 1st round marquee player who has 2 more years. As HL said they have hit rock bottom. So has the Pete's and Sarnia. It is part of the process ( except for a couple of teams) . I'd drather have this than be like Owen Sound who is middle of the pack every year. At least the Spits take a stab at winning it all every few years. Their skilled players will be a year older and hopefully a quality coach to guide them. Looking for them to be into the playoffs next year and a go year the year after. Be safe.
 

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Agree. Regards to Greentree, he is a good offensive quick shot threat but his 200 ft game is poorly lacking to move onto the next level. He'sphysicalbut not physicalenough to slot in on a 3rd 4th NHL line. He is not a center. He'll be picked mid to late 1st round by a team already making the playoffs. Make work project. Not quite a 20o ft Cuylee type player yet. Back next year and possibly 25-26 season. Would not surprise me if a slow to develop NHL team picks him.
I’m thinking after next. Greentrees had 2 years of OHL eligibility, Johnston played 3… Granted one of those was fully lost to Covid, so we only saw him for 2. Could Greentree be at this time next year, where Johnston was? I wouldn’t put money on it, but I think so. Greentree posting up 35 more points with a year more of development, and better developed line mates, isn’t out of the question.

Greentree's not going anywhere until at least 2025-26. This team should be better next season, aiming for 5-7th seed. He'll get a chance to lead for the entire season and they can go from there.
I’m worried about him gone for 25-26, I really think that’s the year to go. I don’t expect the Johnston situation with anyone really, but there are those rare cases it happens.
 

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If team sucks next year and chance he won't return for a 25-26 season. Yes. If team looks poised to make a serious 25-26 season run and nhl draft team wants a slow development. No
Still think next year is going to be rough. They will improve in areas but too many holes to fill. What's being overlooked is with this type of year and turnover is so many terrible habits they have picked up.

We can talk about the 06s but the 05s and 04s aren't good. The 07s will be low on bodies and the 08s are just rookies.

If the team isn't good after 25-30 games building around the 06s doesn't make much sense anymore.

After a season like this it wouldn't be a surprise that players want out as well.

This team will have more points than the 06-07 season but bigger picture this team is worse by a lot of other measures.
 

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I don’t rule it out. Depends who drafts him. If he’s looking gone for 25-26, He could be moved for a highly ranked 07 prospect. Hate to put stuff on one player, but a push for a run in 25-26 is heavily reliant on our 23-24 captain
I have a feeling he's going to Chicago. But who knows
 
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