Windsor Spitfires 2023-24 Off-Season Thread (Part 2)

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Cherrydon

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Is there a limit on how many 08s we can sign?

We can roster 4, play 3, right?

(1) Belchetz F, (2) Lemieux F, (2) Hicks D, (7) Windbiel.

Sounds like it’s a big grab getting Windbiel to sign here. He’s also a BIG goalie for being 16. 6’4 210.
Yes, roster 4 16 yr olds and dress 3 per game. The other flyer being youngest player in the draft and born in Canada, the hope is he could be assigned to an affiliate because he is Canadian born in our zone because his father played OHL. Fingers crossed. Outstanding draft class if it falls in place. He could also play another year at home and then come next year. Think I have that correct lol. 🤔
 
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This is a surprising but solid signing. He looked good at orientation camp so we'll see where they go from here. I don't think he can go Jr B, right?

We now have...

Belchetz
Hicks
Lemieux
Windbiel

Next up, Brocklehurst, Robinson, and Garden?!
 
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This is a surprising but solid signing. He looked good at orientation camp so we'll see where they go from here. I don't think he can go Jr B, right?

We now have...

Belchetz
Hicks
Lemieux
Windbiel

Next up, Brocklehurst, Robinson, and Garden?!
If he's American he has to stay with the Spits . Now opens up what happens to Frogget and Costanzo?
 
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If he's American he has to stay with the Spits . Now opens up what happens to Frogget and Costanzo?
They should move on from both if we are being honest. I will revise what I said. Move on from Costanzo, as well as Altiman. See if Froggett can make the team if not make a move acquire another goalie and go with Windbiel as backup.
 

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If Windbiel has to make the roster, then you have to see if Froggett is ready to carry the load. Give him a solid shot; if he makes it, great. If not, you find a permanent tender.
 

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Unfortunately for the prospects, I feel this passes on Froggett and Altimann.

Costanzo didn’t have a great year, but I think the org is in on him. He’s also an 05.
We have a Limited quantity of 05’s and there’s no doubt now, Joey would (if we wanted him) be available for an OA year in 25-26… which seems like the build plan. If it’s true Windbiel has to stay on the roster (provided we don’t roster 3 goalies - I’m sure there’s some rule I don’t know), using him as a back up this year, then performance dependent maybe considering him to challenge Costanzo in 25-26 seems possible. If he’s good enough, move Joey for a top OA, if he’s not yet, ride out Costanzo.

I doubt Greentrees around in 26/27, and I think we’re building around this captain. Will it pan out? I’m not sure, it’s a quick turn around with wishful thinking but things are looking like that’s the goal.

We’ve got a lot of time to make moves, we’re still… at least to the public, coachless, but my guess is a shot at a 5-6 slot this year, then a conservative going for something the following… heavily Greentree dependent

If Windbiel has to make the roster, then you have to see if Froggett is ready to carry the load. Give him a solid shot; if he makes it, great. If not, you find a permanent tender.
I think with our goaltending past, they seem trigger shy to just throw someone in with limited O experience. I’d guess Costanzo starts still if it’s Costanzo/Frogget/Altimann as options
 
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So far we appear to have had a great signing year. I guess the question now is how do we finagle the signings of a few more from this draft and who will the import pick be.
 
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Love whats going on!!! Its tempered by the lack of a coach and the direction that decision seems to be going. Wait and see is the process right now.
 
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While there's a lack of a definitive head coach, aside from Torres (who I can see returning in some capacity), it's a good sign that the players don't really seem to mind. When you have four players sign within a few weeks, you're doing something right and there's a trust in the process. The coaching stuff will be sorted out in due time.
 

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Does anyone really know the difference between the 16 yr cards? First 2 picks are regular cards and 2 more can be "wild" cards. What is the difference?
 

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Does anyone really know the difference between the 16 yr cards? First 2 picks are regular cards and 2 more can be "wild" cards. What is the difference?
I believe the #1 and #2 picks must be signed then the next 2 are wild …#3,4 ,5 ,10 14 or whichever you choose.
 

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I don't think there's much of a difference in terms of what happens to the player. It feels more that the first two selections will make the club, then you have two "wildcards", which can be chosen from anyone else that signs, whether that's second, fifth, 10th, or 15th round.

For example...

Windsor has signed Belchetz (1), Lemieux (2), Hicks (2), and now Windbiel (7). Belch and Lemieux will make the club or be carded (memory is slightly foggy to that clarification). Given Windbiel is American, he's likely going to make the club, too. So now they've got Hicks, plus whoever else gets signed... likely one spot for them, while the rest head to Junior B. If they get Garden, he would be the one who makes the club.

If they have Hicks, Brocklehurst, Robinson, etc. in Jr B, plus Belchetz, Lemieux, Windbiel, and Garden on the roster, that's a pretty darn good draft.

It's a long way out and a lot can happen but that's how I've interpreted it.
 

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I don't think there's much of a difference in terms of what happens to the player. It feels more that the first two selections will make the club, then you have two "wildcards", which can be chosen from anyone else that signs, whether that's second, fifth, 10th, or 15th round.

For example...

Windsor has signed Belchetz (1), Lemieux (2), Hicks (2), and now Windbiel (7). Belch and Lemieux will make the club or be carded (memory is slightly foggy to that clarification). Given Windbiel is American, he's likely going to make the club, too. So now they've got Hicks, plus whoever else gets signed... likely one spot for them, while the rest head to Junior B. If they get Garden, he would be the one who makes the club.

If they have Hicks, Brocklehurst, Robinson, etc. in Jr B, plus Belchetz, Lemieux, Windbiel, and Garden on the roster, that's a pretty darn good draft.

It's a long way out and a lot can happen but that's how I've interpreted it.
Wonder why they make a distinction in terminology. Love you see actual roster rules for the CHL/OHL. Why is it so damm hard to find these loopholes/ rules in writing published. Like dealing with the CRA
 

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Wonder why they make a distinction in terminology. Love you see actual roster rules for the CHL/OHL. Why is it so damm hard to find these loopholes/ rules in writing published. Like dealing with the CRA

I'm not sure that "wildcard" was the formal terminology, as opposed to just one that Bowler used. With that said, 100% that the basics of roster rules should be posted somewhere. It's a common question among everyone so be transparent about it.
 
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