Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 6)

[Teflon]

One down. Nothing is finalized so you stay on the gas. We can opine here forever, Savard will do as he pleases. Teams gotta play so go play boys. Playing london is enough motivation for any Spits team! The call ups will help for sure. This team can beat london any day in my opinion. Lets see how the staff in london has them playing. I can see a dirty, late shot at every chance kinda game. Id be happy with an evenly reffed game, lol but thats likely a pipe dream. Savard needs this game to get into hunters head. Guess we see how hungry this team is.
Last nights game was exactly what was needed, time to start a stretch of that kinda game. Those efforts win series!

 

[Knownothing]

I don't know if it'll be decided until either later today or tomorrow. It SHOULD be Costanzo but, if they want to give Onuska a rebound game, that's the one to do it.

There is no rebound game deserved. The whole approach is idiotic and a disservice to the team and fans.

 

[rve24]

One down. Nothing is finalized so you stay on the gas. We can opine here forever, Savard will do as he pleases. Teams gotta play so go play boys. Playing london is enough motivation for any Spits team! The call ups will help for sure. This team can beat london any day in my opinion. Lets see how the staff in london has them playing. I can see a dirty, late shot at every chance kinda game. Id be happy with an evenly reffed game, lol but thats likely a pipe dream. Savard needs this game to get into hunters head. Guess we see how hungry this team is.
Last nights game was exactly what was needed, time to start a stretch of that kinda game. Those efforts win series!

Already setting the table with the refs

Geesh, there is a big ref complex for a team with amongst the lowest PIMs in the league vs a team with amongst the highest lol......Any1 got the PIMs stats for LK/WS head to head this year? Or is the previous games refs comments just unfounded? Or is it justified? Maybe it is.......I haven't looked.
Refs won't decide the Conf. title. Over 68, it equals out. They are equally bad across the board for all teams.

Spits will be fine. I fully expect the conf. to be theirs (as I've said consistently from pre deadline)
The big dog for the POs, IMO is Sarnia. If we check their post deadline record I gotta guess it's clearly ahead of Spits or Knights.

Spits have kept rolling in Spits of challenges faced. They deserve credit for that.

Maybe there is more to the G situation than I've seen discussed here. No inside info, but I can think of 2 potential scenarios not brought up to explain the decisions. I said it would work itself out when it matters and I still think it will. JC gets the ball.

 

[OHLTG]

Any1 got the PIMs stats for LK/WS head to head this year?

London has a combined 41 PIM + a 10 min misc. Windsor has 42 PIM + two 10 min + one GM.

I think the biggest thing for Windsor on Friday is not letting stuff get to them. A game like this is going to have a mental aspect and playing in London definitely adds to that. If you let emotions get in the way, the Knights will bury you.

 

[ohloutsider]

London has a combined 41 PIM + a 10 min misc. Windsor has 42 PIM + two 10 min + one GM.

I think the biggest thing for Windsor on Friday is not letting stuff get to them. A game like this is going to have a mental aspect and playing in London definitely adds to that. If you let emotions get in the way, the Knights will bury you.

It's just a bunch of kids playing in a junior hockey game! What could possibly go wrong?!?!? LOL!

Go Spits Go!

 

[Slowpace]

I think the biggest thing for Windsor on Friday is not letting stuff get to them. A game like this is going to have a mental aspect and playing in London definitely adds to that. If you let emotions get in the way, the Knights will bury you.

The way London has been playing the last 10 games or so, the odds of them beating the Spits on Friday and Saturday and Kitchener on Sunday to win the conference, are slim to none.

 

[rve24]

The way London has been playing the last 10 games or so, the odds of them beating the Spits on Friday and Saturday and Kitchener on Sunday to win the conference, are slim to none.

Agreed

 

[rve24]

London has a combined 41 PIM + a 10 min misc. Windsor has 42 PIM + two 10 min + one GM.

I think the biggest thing for Windsor on Friday is not letting stuff get to them. A game like this is going to have a mental aspect and playing in London definitely adds to that. If you let emotions get in the way, the Knights will bury you.

So pretty even minus one call? (where the video aid wasn't available for review?) Interesting its that close with the season totals......
I don't think LK is above emotions getting in the way either. And probly more so than Windsor.
Spits are in the driver seat with a much greater margin for error next 2 games. They can play a little looser with the margin for error and having played better recently than LK.

Any predictions HL? Before the games? Wager for charity if we don't agree?

 

[DetSpitsFan]

If Onuska starts tomorrow, I’ll be handing out signs that say “Joey is the #1” in front of the WFCU Saturday. What’s not clear to the coaching staff.

They have made Onuska the enemy. I feel for the kid. I wish him all the best. He outperformed Medina last year, especially when we had MAJOR goalie concerns. I’m not taking anything away from what he’s done, what he does, or what he’ll do.
I want all the success in the world for him. I wish him success in his remaining time here and beyond. However. We have a starter: Joey Costanzo.

When you have a Top 5 Goalie in GAA, a Top 5 Goalie in Wins, with a .900 Sv% sitting on the bench healthy… either something is really right. Or something is really wrong.
And giving up 8 goals against (team effort I’ll note) against the Soo… means something is wrong.

The guys know. Yeah they won’t say it in a post game with Beller, but they know who they perform better in front of.

That was the issue with the Soo game. As soon as Soo got on the board, Windsor knew, they had to have a high scoring shootout To win that game. The result? Pushing in too many scenarios, odd man rushes the other way, being caught out of position and never being able to catch up. Chaotic systems because they knew, they NEEDED to score 5+. Frustration set in, it became a mental factor, and by the time they got anything going it was far too late. Then they scrambled some more.

As someone who’s sat in the stands and never played beyond the recreational level, I expect coaches to make puzzling decisions to me, that eventually pay off. I understand that.

But We’re Sitting a Top 5 league goalie, that’s a 2005 born kid, with a long future in Windsor while you favor your overager who’s (look at the numbers) struggling, who’s giving up an average of over 4 goals per game, who the Soo broadcast team thought was injured during his last outing due to his poor positioning.

The only explanation I can scratch my head on is Costanzo is part 2 of the Wright deal going to Kingston and he has no future in Windsor.

But even then. Forget the age difference. Onuska’s gone next year. Joeys better right now.

1 goal against in his last 120+ minutes. START HIM.

How do you pay the price you did for Wright and Harrison and start the backup with 1st on the line?! This isn’t a, “let’s build for the future team.”

Count the assets we spent and then tell me why the better player is on the bench. It makes. NO. SENSE.

Even in the wildest potential solutions I can come up with.

Unless Onuska’s parents knew Shane Wright and convinced him to come here instead of London. It’s the only damn thing that makes sense. Lol.

PLAY. JOEY. COSTANZO.

.900 Save Percentage
3.03 GAA
25 Win
Vs
.869 Save Percentage
4.39 GAA
17 Win

Joey.
Costanzo.
Period.

Yes, I’m mad because 80% of me thinks they’re going to give Onuska a “Oh you used to play for London, play against them one more time” game.

No! Joey. Costanzo.

 

[OHLTG]

So pretty even minus one call? (where the video aid wasn't available for review?) Interesting its that close with the season totals......
I don't think LK is above emotions getting in the way either. And probly more so than Windsor.
Spits are in the driver seat with a much greater margin for error next 2 games. They can play a little looser with the margin for error and having played better recently than LK.

Any predictions HL? Before the games? Wager for charity if we don't agree?

While PIMS haven't been as big of a deal, there also hasn't been as much on the line. They've played mind games before, in-game, and I can definitely see that continuing. I'm rarely right with predictions so will avoid that but here's hoping the Windsor team that we know CAN show up... does show up.

 

[OHLTG]

The only explanation I can scratch my head on is Costanzo is part 2 of the Wright deal going to Kingston and he has no future in Windsor.

The Fronts have a Vaccari (05) who's their future. IF Windsor is sending a part two (for picks), I'd guess it's an 03 or 04 like Maillet or Holmes.

Yes, I’m mad because 80% of me thinks they’re going to give Onuska a “Oh you used to play for London, play against them one more time” game.

It feels more "we know what he can do, so let's see that..."

 

[ohloutsider]

I find it odd that goalie discussion is even a talking point on here. It is very clear which goalie has met the challenges for whatever reason. There has to be something that we all are missing that the coaches are aware of, that is causing this indecision? Brochu has pretty much the same numbers as Costanzo and he is the clear number 1 on his team. Has to be more to this. Conspiracy theory time!

Go Spits Go!!!

 

[bobber]

I find it odd that goalie discussion is even a talking point on here. It is very clear which goalie has met the challenges for whatever reason. There has to be something that we all are missing that the coaches are aware of, that is causing this indecision? Brochu has pretty much the same numbers as Costanzo and he is the clear number 1 on his team. Has to be more to this. Conspiracy theory time!

Go Spits Go!!!

Dale Hunter is watching the Spits from the Grassy Knoll.

 

[Teflon]

Its more the missed calls against london that get folks backs up not the stuff tgey do call. No stats for that. There is no goalie scenario that starts O unless Savard thinks hes smarter than everyone else.

 

[DetSpitsFan]

The Fronts have a Vaccari (05) who's their future. IF Windsor is sending a part two (for picks), I'd guess it's an 03 or 04 like Maillet or Holmes.



It feels more "we know what he can do, so let's see that..."

Exactly. Doesn’t! Make! Sense! Play Joey!

Sounds good, doesn’t work. Lol

 

[DetSpitsFan]

Its more the missed calls against london that get folks backs up not the stuff tgey do call. No stats for that. There is no goalie scenario that starts O unless Savard thinks hes smarter than everyone else.

The only reason to start Onuska is so they don’t have a chance to figure out Costanzo. I’ll take home ice with London seeing Costanzo one or two more times than 2nd place.

At least then when we have 4 forwards in the 3rd round, we’ll at least have a regular season banner lol

I find it odd that goalie discussion is even a talking point on here.

It is odd. It’s dumb.

The reason it’s a discussion is because Savard goes on after Joey nearly posts back to back shut outs and goes,
“Joeys Pushed the envelope and he’s going to make it tough for us to make that decision” when referring to the starting goalie. Was that a quote from January? No. Wednesday!

How? How is this a hard decision? Look at the numbers. Watch a game. Listen to the crowd. Everyone knows the answer except Savard apparently.

Joey has made the decision very easy.

I’m angry. Can you tell I’m angry? Start. Costanzo.

 

[ohloutsider]

The only reason to start Onuska is so they don’t have a chance to figure out Costanzo. I’ll take home ice with London seeing Costanzo one or two more times than 2nd place.

At least then when we have 4 forwards in the 3rd round, we’ll at least have a regular season banner lol

It is odd. It’s dumb.

The reason it’s a discussion is because Savard goes on after Joey nearly posts back to back shut outs and goes,
“Joeys Pushed the envelope and he’s going to make it tough for us to make that decision” when referring to the starting goalie. Was that a quote from January? No. Wednesday!

How? How is this a hard decision? Look at the numbers. Watch a game. Listen to the crowd. Everyone knows the answer except Savard apparently.

Joey has made the decision very easy.

I’m angry. Can you tell I’m angry? Start. Costanzo.

I honestly believe Savard knows the correct move but is just pulling the smoke and mirror answer to keep the opposition guessing. Kinda the same way they report injuries. Ya know some part of their body hurts and we have no idea when they will be back. Next night he scores 3 goals LOL.

By next Thursday nobody will care what happened this weekend and all talk will be about the Playoffs and who we are playing that night. Although starting goalie might still be an issue!

It will be fun ending the season with a head to head with London and both teams are relevant right now so should be some intense games. Actually going to be hard to keep them grounded and that may be more of an issue.

Go Spits Go!!!

 

[OHL 17]

Do you think Savard is worried that JC could have a bad game, lose his confidence, nd then not play up to his potential in the playoffs?

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Do you think Savard is worried that JC could have a bad game, lose his confidence, nd then not play up to his potential in the playoffs?

Absolutely that should be in the back of his mind. He's a rookie for all intents and purposes you don't know what he will do until it happens. I have seen more talented goalies than Costanzo play terrible in their first playoff experience it happens.

Those numbers 3.48 GAA .869 sv% and no they didn't win a playoff round.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Absolutely that should be in the back of his mind. He's a rookie for all intents and purposes you don't know what he will do until it happens. I have seen more talented goalies than Costanzo play terrible in their first playoff experience it happens.

Those numbers 3.48 GAA .869 sv% and no they didn't win a playoff round.

Who knows what Savard is really thinking,last year we had a goalie with a 2.03 goals against in the playoffs,.939 save percentage, 1-1 vs Hamilton in the finals after capturing the Conference championship and never play again playoffs or regular season,and no they didn't win a league championship.
Like you I an not naming the tender.

 

[windsor7]

Who knows what Savard is really thinking,last year we had a goalie with a 2.03 goals against in the playoffs,.939 save percentage, 1-1 vs Hamilton in the finals after capturing the Conference championship and never play again playoffs or regular season,and no they didn't win a league championship.
Like you I an not naming the tender.

Could have solid guesses though...

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Who knows what Savard is really thinking,last year we had a goalie with a 2.03 goals against in the playoffs,.939 save percentage, 1-1 vs Hamilton in the finals after capturing the Conference championship and never play again playoffs or regular season,and no they didn't win a league championship.
Like you I an not naming the tender.

Well I am going to go out on a limb and guess who the goalie is. Since you're laser focused on his record against Hamilton how about his 3.47 gaa and .903 sv % against Hamilton as well. Or are you going to ignore that because that doesn't help your point.

Marc Savard has been behind the bench for 134 regular season games compiling a record of
87-34-8-5 for .697 win %

You act like this guy fell off the turnip truck and is somehow holding this team back. Yet the prior coach who you absolutely adored and spoke so highly of compiled a record of. 91-83-7-7 for a winning % of .520


We can also discuss the playoffs if you want Savard has won 15 playoff games, 3 series. The prior coach won 2 playoff games and lost 8.

If you want to continue this conversation I am fine with it.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Well I am going to go out on a limb and guess who the goalie is. Since you're laser focused on his record against Hamilton how about his 3.47 gaa and .903 sv % against Hamilton as well. Or are you going to ignore that because that doesn't help your point.

Marc Savard has been behind the bench for 134 regular season games compiling a record of
87-34-8-5 for .697 win %

You act like this guy fell off the turnip truck and is somehow holding this team back. Yet the prior coach who you absolutely adored and spoke so highly of compiled a record of. 91-83-7-7 for a winning % of .520


We can also discuss the playoffs if you want Savard has won 15 playoff games, 3 series. The prior coach won 2 playoff games and lost 8.

If you want to continue this conversation I am fine with it.

Actually weren't you the guy who last year after the trade deadline said the Spits were not a contender, how did that work out for you,and seeing u brought up Letowski, u didnt like Rocky Thompson and he won a Mem Cup in 1 of the 2 years he was here,how did that work out for you,you didn't like Rychel and he won 3 Mem Cups as GM,you didn't like Boughner and he won 2 Mem Cups,we could on and on,but I am not the one who brought up the past before last season,you did.
My view is one goalie from last year got screwed, and this year is no year to screw another especially when the replacement has been unfortunately very underwhelming this season.
Costanzo deserves to be starting goalie in playoffs period.
Everyone knows you and I disagree on everything, I could say the earth is round and you would say earth is flat,here is your chance to prove me wrong lol.

 

[spits]

Absolutely that should be in the back of his mind. He's a rookie for all intents and purposes you don't know what he will do until it happens. I have seen more talented goalies than Costanzo play terrible in their first playoff experience it happens.

Those numbers 3.48 GAA .869 sv% and no they didn't win a playoff round.

Should not be at the back of his mind. JC is obviously the better goalie than Onuska and first place is on the line. If that's a coach's reasoning for playing a goalie with a 4.39 GAA instead of a top 5 goalie, then it's pure negligence on the coach's part.

Obviously first place is huge this year, could be the difference between playing Saginaw or Flint compared to playing Sarnia in the second round.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Actually weren't you the guy who last year after the trade deadline said the Spits were not a contender, how did that work out for you,and seeing u brought up Letowski, u didnt like Rocky Thompson and he won a Mem Cup in 1 of the 2 years he was here,how did that work out for you,you didn't like Rychel and he won 3 Mem Cups as GM,you didn't like Boughner and he won 2 Mem Cups,we could on and on,but I am not the one who brought up the past before last season,you did.
My view is one goalie from last year got screwed, and this year is no year to screw another especially when the replacement has been unfortunately very underwhelming this season.
Costanzo deserves to be starting goalie in playoffs period.
Everyone knows you and I disagree on everything, I could say the earth is round and you would say earth is flat,here is your chance to prove me wrong lol.

Stop your whining and crying about a guy who hasn't played a game for the team at all this year. He didn't get screwed he was put on waivers and 59 other teams never put a claim in on him and he went across the border.

Well the Spits did lose to the one team who hit it big at the deadline last year. None of the teams they faced in the playoffs were buyers either.

I liked Rychel for 5 years or so after 2011 not so much. I can still have an opinion correct???

Thompson won a Memorial Cup but never a playoff series and that's fine. You can parade that all you want.

I have said the goalie in net is immateral at this point for the Spits. The team itself has to have a better two way conscience in order to have success in win a championship. I have already said who I think is the best team currently in the west .