Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 6)

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RayzorIsDull

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And if they were better defensivly they probably easily win OHL title.
Right. If we are going to talk about their scoring prowess we should talk about the whole picture. A 52 goal differential isn't strong in the least. Might be fine in the western conference but these other teams you mention are clearly ahead.

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Winnipeg 142
Seattle 141
Kamloops 123

The good part is they wouldn't have to face all 3 of those teams. The bad news is they may actually have to face two of them. Guaranteed to face 1, of course they may not face any of them unless the D doesn't improve.
 

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And if they were better defensivly they probably easily win OHL title.

I mean, when you get to Game 7, you're doing something right. It would have likely taken a historical game to beat Hamilton on their own ice in that situation.

That being said... my point was more that, while they currently have glaring inconsistent defensive issues (that need to be addressed), the change in GAA from last season's reg season to playoffs gives me hope that they can do that again. Will it be easy? No. Do I have some faith? Absolutely.
 
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Right. If we are going to talk about their scoring prowess we should talk about the whole picture. A 52 goal differential isn't strong in the least. Might be fine in the western conference but these other teams you mention are clearly ahead.

Goal differential
Winnipeg 142
Seattle 141
Kamloops 123

The good part is they wouldn't have to face all 3 of those teams. The bad news is they may actually have to face two of them. Guaranteed to face 1, of course they may not face any of them unless the D doesn't improve.
I see a North Bay, Sarina final, so discussion of other leagues is irrelevant.
 

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I see a North Bay, Sarina final, so discussion of other leagues is irrelevant.
Not sure I would go with NB. Right now Sarnia is playing the best hockey out of anyone in the western conference. They will most likely end up with the best goal differential in the conference, best PP, 3rd in PK, goalie playing at a high level. The only reason I wouldn't take Sarnia is their lack of success in the playoffs but that has nothing to do with this current roster so it's not that relevant.
 

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Not sure I would go with NB. Right now Sarnia is playing the best hockey out of anyone in the western conference. They will most likely end up with the best goal differential in the conference, best PP, 3rd in PK, goalie playing at a high level. The only reason I wouldn't take Sarnia is their lack of success in the playoffs but that has nothing to do with this current roster so it's not that relevant.
I've watched a few games and they look and play a heavy skilled game much like Hamilton did last year.
 

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Not sure why anyone is focusing on what ifs at this time of year. Im hopeful we get most guys back from injury too, but im not at all confident of that and frankly, who goes down next, then next??? Im worried that streak also continues and i think it easily happens with tired players. Might be a year where the East beats West. Betting BB is a very worried GM right now.
 

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Early scenarios...

Sarnia's in OS on Tuesday. They sit five points back with a game in hand.

Sarnia win - Windsor can't clinch division on Wednesday.

Sarnia OT loss - Windsor can clinch with win on Wednesday via tiebreaker

Sarnia regulation loss - Windsor clinches with a single point via tiebreaker.
 
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All kinds of scenarios are possible. If the Spitfires win Wednesday and Friday in London they clinch a spot ahead of London which would seemingly make Saturday's home game against London meaningless.

Buuuttt, if Sarnia wins Tuesday and Friday, Spitfires need to win Saturday against London to clinch the division. There is a chance they can clinch a spot ahead of London before clinching their own division.

If Sarnia wins Tuesday in Owen Sound, the pressure is on, Sarnia has two automatic wins against Erie and Niagara to close out the season while the Spitfires are playing London in their last two games with possibly 7 or 8 forwards. How fatigued are the teams' basically only two lines going to be by Saturday is the question.

The depleted lineup has killed the vibe on the season. Having 1 or 2 guys out is one thing but when you have a Jr. B player (not even your best JR. B players due to La Salle playoffs )and a #6 d-man playing forward just to get to 3 forward lines, and have no 4th line it's completely different.
 
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All kinds of scenarios are possible. If the Spitfires win Wednesday and Friday in London they clinch a spot ahead of London which would seemingly make Saturday's home game against London meaningless.

Buuuttt, if Sarnia wins Tuesday and Friday, Spitfires need to win Saturday against London to clinch the division. There is a chance they can clinch a spot ahead of London before clinching their own division.

If Sarnia wins Tuesday in Owen Sound, the pressure is on, Sarnia has two automatic wins against Erie and Niagara to close out the season while the Spitfires are playing London in their last two games with possibly 7 or 8 forwards. How fatigued are the teams' basically only two lines going to be by Saturday is the question.

The depleted lineup has killed the vibe on the season. Having 1 or 2 guys out is one thing but when you have a Jr. B player (not even your best JR. B players due to La Salle playoffs )and a #6 d-man playing forward just to get to 3 forward lines, and have no 4th line it's completely different.
Sarnia has 85 points with 4 games left. There maximum points are 93. Windsor has 90 points and if the bear Guelph and beat London on Friday, they have 94 and lock out Sarnis.
 

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Another way of looking at the goaltending situation is this: For every game that Onuska has played, is a game where your # 1 guy hasn't gotten injured ( knock on wood ). With the injuries seemingly a plague right now, you definitely do not want JC becoming part of that injured list. Should that occur, who's in the wings as backup ???
 
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Sarnia has 85 points with 4 games left. There maximum points are 93. Windsor has 90 points and if the bear Guelph and beat London on Friday, they have 94 and lock out Sarnis.
Correct, I'm just alluding to a scenario where if the Spitfires beat Guelph Wednesday but lose in regulation Friday in London, Saturday's game is very important for the division as well.

This is assuming Sarnia wins Tuesday and Friday. Basically, if the Sting go 4-0, the Spitfires have to go at least go 1-1-1, if they go 1-2 they would dip to #3 seed assuming Sarnia wins their remaining games.
 

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I guess these kids are allowed to play more then 3 games in a row if in 2 different leagues as Birkett playing again tonight.

A bunch of us were trying to figure this out a few weeks back. I remember a rule where OHLers couldn't play four games in a week but that was 2016ish.
Another way of looking at the goaltending situation is this: For every game that Onuska has played, is a game where your # 1 guy hasn't gotten injured ( knock on wood ). With the injuries seemingly a plague right now, you definitely do not want JC becoming part of that injured list. Should that occur, who's in the wings as backup ???

Michelone...?
 
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While I don't like the injuries by any stretch, it adds a bit of "can they still do this?" intrigue for me.
If they end up the 3 seed and the Spits gotta go through Sarnia in round 2 with them having home ice advantage I’m sure you’ll find it a little less intriguing.
 
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