Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 2)
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OHLTG
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The impression I got, back in March, was that there were things going on behind the scenes that were never made public (re: Medina). At no point during the summer did I expect Medina to show up at camp and, when he did, I was very surprised. Onuska's injury before/during camp, combined with Medina's attitude and approach, changed my perception on what might happen. Though, now it's been pretty clear that Medina was here to see if they could trade him, rather than maybe unseat Onuska.
Did Medina walk away the year before, or not report or something? Not saying it's fault at all cause I don't know but I thought is more than just last years issue. I asked HL but never got an answer. Do you recall? Seemed an ongoing issue. Again not assigning any blame.
I know he was drafted 3rd round 2018 but was not signed after camp. It was the following year he signed. I heard he was still bitter about that from the onset.
OHLTG
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I don't know what, if anything, happened prior to the February incident. When Savard was asked about that one, specifically, he just pointed to Bowler, which spoke volumes to me. (as opposed to Medina being injured and/or sick)
I know that Medina didn't report to the club until 2019-20, despite being drafted in 2018. The talk was that it was because the Spitfires drafted Piiroinen in the 2018 Import Draft, just a couple of months after they took Medina. The two battled in 2019-20 and Piiroinen left to go back home to Finland when COVID-19 hit. Could any of this have played a part of the Feb thing? I don't know. It just felt like "one thing after another" with the entire situation.
The fin wasnt really good enough.
Probably better for his career to play back home.
OHLTG
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That is true. 30 games 2019 3.75 gaa and .875. Numbers still better than Onuska this year so not arguing with you 7 but where's that leave the team with O?
ohloutsider
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You missed the point of the post, nothing to do with the schedule. All to do with what night they chose to do the TBT. And now I'm realizing I got sucked in again. Why bother.
TY TG and Cherrydon for the posts. I thought there was something before the O trade but want sure.
Teflon
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Ok this has gone on for to long again. X was never going to be here this year. Between his hissy fit and the fact he wasnt wanted by a certain suit or two was the reason why. He was allowed to report to possibly be traded end of story. Pitre, ive heard both versions but my trusted source tells me BB blew it, his opinion was another suit didnt like him or his group…. Sounds like some personality clashes in both cases. Can we please focus on relevant news, this infighting is old and irritating!!
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TheGremlin
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I really liked Martin last year from what I saw, hope he gets a little bit of ice time up here.
Abraham is UBI anyone know if it's neck? He played one game since Kitchener right? Maybe that cross check led to it?
Flint is making moves to add size on the back end which is needed with their questionable goaltending. Still not really sure how they sit and compare but they're not in the bottom half of the West. OS looks to be in a good spot as well making little additions. London hasn't made a move but have won 9 of their last 10 putting them in 2nd. Now the Spirit just moved a little more than the picks they got for Bloom/Hislop for Haight an 04 Center (9th overall 2020 OHL Draft, 2nd Rd 22 NHL Draft).
I really like Saginaw this year. Thought they were going full sell mode moving Bloom, but they're really just positioning themselves to host the 23 Memorial Cup, and the move today increases their position next year, while also adding to the current team. What do you do when you win 9 in a row? Trade to improve your team for the next 2 seasons. I hate to say it, but those 4 aforementioned are taking home ice advantage in the playoffs if the deadline had already past.
Abraham is UBI anyone know if it's neck? He played one game since Kitchener right? Maybe that cross check led to it?
Flint is making moves to add size on the back end which is needed with their questionable goaltending. Still not really sure how they sit and compare but they're not in the bottom half of the West. OS looks to be in a good spot as well making little additions. London hasn't made a move but have won 9 of their last 10 putting them in 2nd. Now the Spirit just moved a little more than the picks they got for Bloom/Hislop for Haight an 04 Center (9th overall 2020 OHL Draft, 2nd Rd 22 NHL Draft).
I really like Saginaw this year. Thought they were going full sell mode moving Bloom, but they're really just positioning themselves to host the 23 Memorial Cup, and the move today increases their position next year, while also adding to the current team. What do you do when you win 9 in a row? Trade to improve your team for the next 2 seasons. I hate to say it, but those 4 aforementioned are taking home ice advantage in the playoffs if the deadline had already past.
After the last two weeks I've gone from hold / conservatively buy, to sell. We've dropped from 1st to 5th although 2-6 are within 3 points.
The only issue is… what do we sell? With Medina hitting waivers (Can't believe I'm contributing to this stupid goalie talk), clearly the OA Goalie market is scarce. Onuska can't hold too much value. Maggio is the captain, who seems thrilled to be playing at home and is heavily involved in the community. Renwick might have some OA Value on the backend. And as far as 03's I see Peer/Maillet/Christopolous all with realistic expectations to return next season for an OA year. I like what McIlwan and Jodoin bring but really don't think they hold much more than a mid-round pick in trade and likely won't return for an OA year and Thomas Johnston I can't see bringing in more than it cost to get him here.
No reason to touch the 04's given the huge potential from the 05's & 06's.
If I'm BB, maybe a small move or two out, if any big expenses it's on an 05/06 in. Close your eyes, hope for the best, get those 05's/06's as much playing time and experience as you can afford. Cautiously give Costanzo the crease. Don't let his confidence get wrecked, but get him as many games and situations as possible.
The only issue is… what do we sell? With Medina hitting waivers (Can't believe I'm contributing to this stupid goalie talk), clearly the OA Goalie market is scarce. Onuska can't hold too much value. Maggio is the captain, who seems thrilled to be playing at home and is heavily involved in the community. Renwick might have some OA Value on the backend. And as far as 03's I see Peer/Maillet/Christopolous all with realistic expectations to return next season for an OA year. I like what McIlwan and Jodoin bring but really don't think they hold much more than a mid-round pick in trade and likely won't return for an OA year and Thomas Johnston I can't see bringing in more than it cost to get him here.
No reason to touch the 04's given the huge potential from the 05's & 06's.
If I'm BB, maybe a small move or two out, if any big expenses it's on an 05/06 in. Close your eyes, hope for the best, get those 05's/06's as much playing time and experience as you can afford. Cautiously give Costanzo the crease. Don't let his confidence get wrecked, but get him as many games and situations as possible.
ohloutsider
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Looking more and more like a sell year. I know it will never happen but a Maggio move would help bring back some pics. Not sure who else would make sense. Likely a stand pat at this point.
SpitfireHabs1
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I said it a few weeks ago when this team was rolling. I said all the winning didn't make me Blind to the fact of this teams weakness. And now other teams have got more comfortable and some teams have added to there roster which have all added to the spitfires falling back down to earth. I was saying a few weeks ago get a better goalie or add 1 or 2 better defensive defenseman. None of these two things have happened and now this teams weaknesses have started to show, especially because the offence has seemed to slow a bit the last few weeks. I would agree its decision time. I would rather not make minor moves like last year, Bowler needs to pick a direction and go in fully its either unload some players or add a big piece or two. Hope we see something soon.
Go Spitfires!!
Question who gets the start tonight in the 1st game of 3 in 3,Onuska or Costanzo, also knowing tomorrow 's game is in Kitchener which is less then 10 minutes from Onuska 's hometown of Waterloo.
Costanzo is 3-0-0-1 at home,while Onuska is 4-2-2-0 at home,lost his last 2 at home vs London and Owen Sound,got pulled in both,now I know Costanzo allowed 7 the other night on the road,should be noted Onuska also allowed 7 in a game at Erie earlier in the season and started the next game despite that,fair is fair imo,plus can't overlook Costanzo 's home record,and toss in the fact Onuska in all likelihood starts tomorrow at Kitchener, though if Costanzo pitched a shutout tonight I would not change tenders,otherwise I do.
Saturday vs Barrie up in the air on who starts.
GermanSpitfire
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Oh no - our first line centre is out week to week!
Sorry, couldn’t help myself.
I agree - sell what you can, although Maggio is the only piece of any value.
Sorry, couldn’t help myself.
I agree - sell what you can, although Maggio is the only piece of any value.
GermanSpitfire
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Agreed.
Bowler is a difficult one to read - hasn’t sold, hasn’t bought in his 4? Years at the helm now. And there is no reason to expect he will this year, or next either.
ohloutsider
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I'm sure there is conversations whenever a player is made available. Bowler would likely bawk at that price and I don't see Haight fitting into the Spits window. Mostly because I don't see it as a buy year, ( without Johnston coming back).
Disagree re Haight, no chance I trade 3-2nds and 2-3rds for a guy with 3G,6A,heck 9 Windsor forwards have more goals then him,and 1 AJ Spellacy a 16 year old has the same number and only 2 less points.
And our #1 Center couldn't resist has 3X more points less 1.
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