Travis Bickle 77
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Quite the collective shit show tonight!
Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 2)
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They haven't named a captain yet for a reason. Noone stepping up to earn the C by play on he ice. Maggio afraid to take a hit tonight it seems. London scores every decent scoring chance. Yes we need a big stop at times. Miedema, Morneau, Spellacy, O'Flaherty came to play. The list gets super thin after that. Their D is big and plays big. Appears some of the Spits are afraid of getting a little bruise. Pretty bad Hebek looking like the most solid D tonight in a soft of softest defensive environments. At least come out in the 3rd and earn some respect boys.
If 2 min is all u need if it.
What a dud.
Thats being polite. Lol
Bowen 38 saves but outside the first 5 minutes most if them were long hail mary shots with little presence around the front of their net all game. The Knight played a solid road game and won. Starting Costanzo maybe could have made a difference. Can only surmise at this point what if. Sad game against a conference rival. Soak up the pain till next Friday boys.
Well I liked how Spellacy and Meidema looked… 
Well that was a dud. These games happen, the key is to rebound quickly in the next game. One of those games were the opponent cashed in on almost every single grade-A scoring chance they got. It's time to give Costanzo a chance to be the #1. Onuska looks off, his composure seems weak, and the body language isn't good. There have already been quite a few games where he has given up 3-4 goals in a few-minute span. Constanzo seems to be keyed in, good rebound control.
Miedema looked determined along with Spellacy and O'Flaherty. Good crowd, too bad the team didn't show up, for many in attendance it was the first game they have seen in person all season. As I said these games happen, just need to rebound.
Miedema looked determined along with Spellacy and O'Flaherty. Good crowd, too bad the team didn't show up, for many in attendance it was the first game they have seen in person all season. As I said these games happen, just need to rebound.
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I'd agree, guess the players didn't get up gor the rivalry?
Hard to take much away from a game like this.....one team banged in ops, the other didn't, happens and any single doesnt tell a full story.
OHLTG
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This was one of those games where just knew it was going to get ugly. London could do no wrong, Windsor could do no right. There wasn't any one issue but a bunch of little things that just added up.
First goal - decent defence until the guy snuck in.
Second goal - bad bounce but the guy was far too open.
Third goal - PP but one that Onuska maybe should have had.
Fourth goal - 2-on-1. Not a pretty goal but one that isn't all on Onuska.
Fifth goal - guy was WIDE OPEN.... that can't happen.
Sixth goal - guy was covered but got open at the top of the crease and buries it.
After the second goal, there was a feeling of this could get really bad. The Maggio goal that was called back felt like the turning point, though. That was just before the first period ended; was right after London's third goal and would have been an ideal finish to the period.
Start to finish, this was ugly. Does it mean they're a bad team? Of course not. They had an off night. Savard was going to send them home for a few days to rest, regardless, so it's a good chance to recharge, think, and come back ready to go. Use this game as a lesson.
I'd give Costanzo more starts, too. As much as I like Onuska, he just doesn't look the same. Something feels off and Costanzo seems poised to play more.
Props to O'Flaherty for a solid tilt, too. Yep, he got the instigator, but the fight itself was solid. They also did well in sticking up for Maggio (I believe?) after he was hit during the (premature) celebration. No need for those types of shenanigans but the Spits stuck together. Can't argue that.
First goal - decent defence until the guy snuck in.
Second goal - bad bounce but the guy was far too open.
Third goal - PP but one that Onuska maybe should have had.
Fourth goal - 2-on-1. Not a pretty goal but one that isn't all on Onuska.
Fifth goal - guy was WIDE OPEN.... that can't happen.
Sixth goal - guy was covered but got open at the top of the crease and buries it.
After the second goal, there was a feeling of this could get really bad. The Maggio goal that was called back felt like the turning point, though. That was just before the first period ended; was right after London's third goal and would have been an ideal finish to the period.
Start to finish, this was ugly. Does it mean they're a bad team? Of course not. They had an off night. Savard was going to send them home for a few days to rest, regardless, so it's a good chance to recharge, think, and come back ready to go. Use this game as a lesson.
I'd give Costanzo more starts, too. As much as I like Onuska, he just doesn't look the same. Something feels off and Costanzo seems poised to play more.
Props to O'Flaherty for a solid tilt, too. Yep, he got the instigator, but the fight itself was solid. They also did well in sticking up for Maggio (I believe?) after he was hit during the (premature) celebration. No need for those types of shenanigans but the Spits stuck together. Can't argue that.
ohloutsider
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London was the better team last night. No excuses for this one. Spits did not look ready and other than 5 minutes in the second after the time out they were outmatched.
Fans of fighting think that "helped" the team, nope. They never responded and London scored the game winner on the power play.
I posted it earlier that this team has no leader and I see others are starting to see that now.
End of the day Spits are still in first place. They have a week to regroup and Savard needs to work on the issues. That was game 1 against London this year, they still have games to play against them. Just need to focus and be ready next time.
Fans of fighting think that "helped" the team, nope. They never responded and London scored the game winner on the power play.
I posted it earlier that this team has no leader and I see others are starting to see that now.
End of the day Spits are still in first place. They have a week to regroup and Savard needs to work on the issues. That was game 1 against London this year, they still have games to play against them. Just need to focus and be ready next time.
Absolutely shit show.
Savard had a horrible coaching plan.
Team was not prepared.
Savard out coached.
Team is not physical at all. No team should be afraid of playing Windsor. They don't hit. The opponents can just skate with no worries.
Defence another horrible performance.
Big crowd. Saw a terrible performance. I wouldn't blame them to not come again for awhile. Spend hard earned money on watching that? Most left mid third anyways. Good on them.
Rivalry? For maybe 5 total min. Hope that fight was worth it as London scored on the pp after it.
Should be a early morning practice to get that ugliness out of their system.
Burn that tape.
Savard had a horrible coaching plan.
Team was not prepared.
Savard out coached.
Team is not physical at all. No team should be afraid of playing Windsor. They don't hit. The opponents can just skate with no worries.
Defence another horrible performance.
Big crowd. Saw a terrible performance. I wouldn't blame them to not come again for awhile. Spend hard earned money on watching that? Most left mid third anyways. Good on them.
Rivalry? For maybe 5 total min. Hope that fight was worth it as London scored on the pp after it.
Should be a early morning practice to get that ugliness out of their system.
Burn that tape.
Teflon
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Ok so D needs work no question, team needs a leader asap, do ya wait on johnston or??? A team that cant get up for london is not a windsor team!! Disappointed for sure!!
Its becoming clear the team has some shortfalls, winning or not. BB needs to address some of it. Coach needs to be more flexible with ideals. For sure C needs more net time, guys need to sit when they arent giving the effort. No this isnt a sky is falling, simple observations. Winning is great but its doesnt tell the whole story. Losses like that are unacceptable!
Its becoming clear the team has some shortfalls, winning or not. BB needs to address some of it. Coach needs to be more flexible with ideals. For sure C needs more net time, guys need to sit when they arent giving the effort. No this isnt a sky is falling, simple observations. Winning is great but its doesnt tell the whole story. Losses like that are unacceptable!
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Teflon
If you had told me Windsor with no Wyatt Johnston best player in the league last year, not here,180 out of 305 goals scored by players last year gone,a record of 11-3-3 after a quarter of the season played,only 1 regular season loss at home so far and that was last night,5 point scorers in the top 30 or so in the league,with 4 of them returning next year,and that's not including Miedema, Smith,plus the kids Christoforo, Spellacy, and Greentree, Costanzo, O'Flaherty ,Morneau, toss in the fact the No.1 goalie Onuska is 20th in the league for average 4.05,.872 save per centage 2nd worst save per centage in the league,79 goals tied with Ottawa for most goals for I would say wow.
I refuse to let one game change my view considering the overwhelming evidence written above.
I agree Costanzo should play more,Windsor is winning inspite of Onuska not because of him,in the playoffs he was 2.77 and plus 900 big difference this season,like I have said before,think they picked the wrong guy or better yet should have let them fight it out just hand it to him.
Now has Windsor been perfect of course not,do I like losing ,of course not,am I pleased so far how the season has gone so far to date absolutely and I trust completely in what Bowler can and will do moving forward.
OHLTG
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One game doesn't dictate anything, fortunately. It was a brutal game all around and the team knows it, but... it's one game. Just like if you win 10-1, you go "yep, it's great, but it's one game." They head home for some rest and reset, come back, learn, and move on.
While I would have preferred if they finished a bunch of checks last night, the team absolutely sticks up for each other when needed. I appreciate that mentality.
Fighting helps momentum and energy when an instigator isn't involved. I didn't see how the OF fight started (though, I know there was a hit just prior), but you take that fight any day if it's 5 each.
I wondered this out loud last night - would Kingston deal a guy like Hache? He's almost exactly what the Spitfires need. Big, physical, and has another season left.
While I would have preferred if they finished a bunch of checks last night, the team absolutely sticks up for each other when needed. I appreciate that mentality.
Fighting helps momentum and energy when an instigator isn't involved. I didn't see how the OF fight started (though, I know there was a hit just prior), but you take that fight any day if it's 5 each.
I wondered this out loud last night - would Kingston deal a guy like Hache? He's almost exactly what the Spitfires need. Big, physical, and has another season left.
TheGremlin
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Actually he did want to be here.
Throughout the summer and leading up to training camp he made public appearances on behalf of the team.
He was also very popular amongst the young fans of this team,often saw him swarmed by fans prior to him leaving.
Too bad he was not given the chance to win a spot.
Agree that the writing on the the wall as predetermined Onuska seemingly soft since knowing the competition for a OA spot was over. Costanzo's good play should result in many more starts. Maybe the the threat of him taking the crease will push Onuska back into a healthy competitive frame if mind. His number's have sucked so far. London scored on every decent chance. A great goalie stops a few if those grade A opportunities. if Costanzo started last night I am confident the score would not have been so lopsided and the Spits would have had some hope earlier instead of facing a 3-0 deficit after 1 period.
Maybe he should of thought about that before the prior instances....
Actually defense helping out would benefit too. They r way too soft!
OHLTG
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Medina was all smiles during camp and was helping out the prospects more than I've seen from other veterans over the years. It was very much night-and-day compared to what I saw/heard last season. That said, if you told me that Medina was always going to be the one to be moved, I wouldn't have been surprised at all.
TheGremlin
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My opinion is he didn’t want to be here due to everything that happened last year. That doesn’t mean you stop doing things. It shows other teams he is a team guy. At this point it doesn’t matter and don’t know if he be better or worse. After yesterday the team NEEDS to play Costanzo more. Get him out of the backup role and have it more of a 1a/1b thing and see who grabs the reigns.
Clean hit. But unfortunately those are sometimes seen as a reason to instigate a fight and put a team down (not just this instance or Windsor) Just take the # and ask to go next coupke shifts where ya don't take team down a player for 17 min and a penalty.
Dirty hit....sure.
And fighting doesn't always help momentum. There are 2 sides involved and it may help the other side more.
Yes I'm for standing up for yourself n teammates but it backfires sometimes. Probly half the time. JMO.
This scrap definitely didn't help the cause of the Spits thou.
Actually the Leonard hit on Miedema was not clean,it was a head check but not reviewable,I know because I spoke to the review official after the 1st period,replays showed head contact,they initially thought it was OK till they looked at it.
Penalties should have been a wash, not a PP for London,and 15 seconds later they scored to make it 3-0 and rest was history.
Bottom line they caught a break.
If defense is so soft why aren't Costanzo's numbers similar or higher.
As Darryl Sutter said just the other day if a team wants to win they need to get great goaltending, especially from its #1 guy,Windsor despite their excellent record is not getting great goaltending from their #1 guy,and Costanzo 3 years younger goals against is 2.95,and save percentage is over 900,Onuska at 4.05 and well under .900 save percentage that's on him not the D for the most part.
Did I say that in my post,I did not.
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