Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 8)
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ohloutsider
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Re Wright - Jim Parker commented on Twitter yesterday that he talked to the OHL offices and Wright could go NHL, AHL, or OHL next season. Take that as you will.
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They better explain why he can get around the rule and not just covid.
Any lawyer and organization can make this case pretty cut and dry. He's not going to be back in Windsor.
ohloutsider
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Yes said this before. Covid will be the excuse/reason. Can't see him coming back.
OHLTG
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The talk was always that 2020-21 counted as a season, but it was a case of the 24 games v. the 25 games.
Can't see the CHL even considering trying to prevent Wright from turning pro. Not a fight theu would want.
JMO but best for him to move up. I get there is an agreement with parameters but they won't force it. Best decision, all things considered, is to let him move on and make up whatever reasoning
JMO but best for him to move up. I get there is an agreement with parameters but they won't force it. Best decision, all things considered, is to let him move on and make up whatever reasoning
sbpointer
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I agree with this whole heartedly the OHL is already losing ground quickly to college attracting top end players don't need to give anyone more reasons to not want to report.
That said until the quoted post I never really looked at it as a CHL forcing him into the OHL over the AHL I was looking at it from the perspective of Seattle assigning him back to Windsor
Gotcha.
I can't see Seattle wanting him in jrA either thou. But they did make their own bed with how they handled him until he was moved on from Kingston.
It woulda looked good on Seattle if he had to go OHL or NHL lol.
punch1943
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You either have a rule or you don’t. So far to be honest, he hasn’t shown he’s good enough to play pro. IMHO if he gets sent back to the CHL the Spits will send him to the team his family/agent want.
OHLTG
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Not enforcing the rule creates unnecessary chaos down the road. "Why does HE get to break the rule but I don't?"
This isn't really an OHL thing it's a CHL thing. It would put them in worse light if they didn't bend them. They bent them for 20-21 letting guys play in AHL. There are arbitration clocks, restricted/unrestricted free agency and in the process millions of dollars in the balance.
Agree rules should stick regardless of who it is. If London had his rights, I'd still say the same thing. How can managers manage assets if rules can be broken?? You traded a lot of assets to acquire a player, sometimes it pays off which it should if he doesn't stick with Kraken this upcoming season. Kid got kicked to the curb on draft day sliding, maybe a year of stardom even at the ohl level is what the Dr ordered. He was not as dominant as Johnston was but could be with another year. He is a year younger and was robbed of a years development with covid. Johnston lost a year too but was 16 when h started.
Yes it should be a CHL decision, agreed.
But they will weigh ( have already probably ) pros n cons to each and JMO the pros of letting him move on under an exeception under these particular circumstances is beneficial for everyone.
Re. Cherrydons response above .....I get rules and agreements are there for a reason. But if not injured and missing games reg. season or the unexpected sweep in rd 1 ( and Seattle's input in keeping him out longer during reg.season ) it's a non conversation.
At work we always emphasize good decisions over procedures or policies. And this is that rare circumstance where it may be better for the NHL/CHL agreement and player an exemption is justified. It sucks he didn't meet the criteria to have potential to advance but when Windsor made the trade I doubt Windsor brass thought if we get swept or if he misses reg season games due to injury we would get the player back.
They weighed risk vs reward as best they could and pulled the trigger. (Rightfully so at the time imo)
Wright was granted exceptional status to get in at 15 and will need exceptional exit status to leave. Wow rules bend at the beginning and now possibly the end. The kid may well want to play another year at this level. Players with that talent don't need to learn their game in the AHL. it is confidence that needs tuning at that level. AHL really doesn't offer 6000 fans watching a game, local media attention and big stage like the WJC. that is something the CHL does offer.
Exceptional status isn't bending the rules at all as u suggest. It is the rule with a process for entry early.
Having seen the kid play against his MM peers, as an underager, 10-15 times on an exceptionally talented team AND standing out above his peers on the team and the league ( check that Don Mills roster out for reference) his exceptional status was warranted and in no way bent any rules.
You really think he wants to play another year in the OHL instead of AHL/NHL?????? Highly doubtful but if you can find a comment he wants that I'm all ears.
Many players develop and improve their game in the AHL .....more so than coasting thru the O. You are competing against men who are pros, not teens of which a small percentage go pro. Think Ssteel sharpens steel at a certain point, especially when he doesn't face any physical or talent challenges in the O. And if he didn't need to learn anything and was good enough he woulda stuck in Seattle all year
6000 fans a game? Not even a concern or consideration for him and his pro team.
And really how often in the past 2 years do the Spits hit that mark? POs and late season?
Windsor media? Not ecen sure what you think the allure with that is. Heck any local media in the O.....no one wants to stagnant in the O cause of local media attention.
WJC.......he could be loaned as a pro or JrA player so non consideration.
OHLTG
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Just for info purposes - Coachella Valley averaged 7400+ fans per game this season, per hockeydb. The media thing is a non-starter, too. Coachella Valley has its own paper like the Windsor Star, plus he'll get attention no matter where he goes.
My post was IF he doesn’t make the Kraken, the OHL exceeds the AHL on coverage. Find a regular channel covering the AHL? Good luck unless you have Leafs TV covering the Marlies. The rules are simple, 16 to play CHL unless they have a special meeting and agree to let un a 15 yr old player under exceptional status The same meeting will need to take place to release him technically early. Those aren't rules, those are decisions that bend the rules already in place. My point has nothing against Wright if they do bok to release him to the AHL that sends a precident moving forward. No one was crying when Cuylee had 19 games instead of 20 and was returned. Cuylee was more ready for AHL than Foudy but that's not how it played out.
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OHLTG
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The CV Firebirds have regular radio, newspaper, and a TV station that covered a portion of their games. That said, he's not going to come back to the OHL just for the media. I think even THEY'D (media) question that hahaha
Wright, Seattle, and the OHL will do what's best for his development. If that's Seattle, great. If it's CV, that's fine. If it's the Spitfires, then that's good, too. Media, attendance, etc etc etc won't play a factor, nor should they.
Wright, Seattle, and the OHL will do what's best for his development. If that's Seattle, great. If it's CV, that's fine. If it's the Spitfires, then that's good, too. Media, attendance, etc etc etc won't play a factor, nor should they.
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