William Nylander

[Gabriel426]

Without question.

It just seems like Nylander wants to win more because his actions match the eye test for elevated desire from the regular season to the playoffs.

And for the record, I believe Matthews and Marner have the ability to elevate their level of engagement because I’ve seen it in fits and starts. We all have.

Which makes criticizing their willingness to engage all the more frustrating.

There is no question that they all wanted to win.

The question is more to do with do they know what it takes to win. Like the sacrifices, the work not just in game like fighting for every inch of ice, or playing through pain…but also outside of the game like certain diets, training….

 

[GlitchMarner]

I've watched a few reviews of Leafs playoff games by those LeafsDigest guys, and Nylander always seems to be at or very close to the top on the player impact charts.

When you combine that with his scoring output and the timeliness of some of his goals, he has to be in the Conn Smythe conversation if the Leafs win this series against FLA.

 

[ITM]

They all want to win equally, silly to think otherwise IMO.

Not if we’re discussing desire vs will (no pun intended).

Edited to ask: Doesn’t Matthews goalscoring drought speak to that directly?

 

[ULF_55]

Nylander last 5 years playoffs Top 10 in P/PG min 20 games played.
I'm surprised where he ranks.

 

[mapleleaf979]

Gamer, needs some rope for his mistakes, reliable. Has a bit of dog in him but can show more dog. 88 is solid, cutbacks, elusive, confidence, lets go.

 

[pcruz]

Lesson for the idiots who only parrot the offensive production of players in the playoffs and completely ignore their whole game performance.

Willy has now been responsible for 2 of the last 3 goals against.

1 was an OT goal where he didn't even attempt to pressure or defend.
1 was a dipsy-doodle in the neutral zone and a grenade pass that got stuffed back for a 2 on 2 and then he just coasted back towards his zone instead of hustling back. The fact that Bennet had to make a move and cut into the middle of the ice means he could have caught up and broken the play.


In order to make up for these 2 braindead plays, he has to contribute to 2 goals. Just to break even.

This is why just plain offensive numbers mean f*** all.

 

[notDatsyuk]

It's amazing how you know which few posters will put their bias on full display instead of their supposed hockey knowledge.

A simple 2on2 play that one defencemen misplays, and there are a couple of posters blaming one of the forwards, or the goalie, on even the defenceman who directed traffic correctly and played his man properly.

 

[The Shadow]

Nylander with a bad pass that led
To the 2-0 goal

Also terrible in Game 3 on the overtime goal.

 

[Aashir]

This is what happens when we don’t have a guy producing like a Mcdavid, MacKinnon level player

Either he gets back to it, which I doubt

So we are out of options and it shows how far we are from doing anything of note apart from blowing things

 

[ITM]

Lesson for the idiots who only parrot the offensive production of players in the playoffs and completely ignore their whole game performance.

Willy has now been responsible for 2 of the last 3 goals against.

1 was an OT goal where he didn't even attempt to pressure or defend.
1 was a dipsy-doodle in the neutral zone and a grenade pass that got stuffed back for a 2 on 2 and then he just coasted back towards his zone instead of hustling back. The fact that Bennet had to make a move and cut into the middle of the ice means he could have caught up and broken the play.


In order to make up for these 2 braindead plays, he has to contribute to 2 goals. Just to break even.

This is why just plain offensive numbers mean f*** all.

That’s not how a player of Nylander’s value is calculated, especially when what he is paid to do is produce.

This TEAM game is interesting like that; Said differently whose mistakes precisely has Nylander been offsetting with his team leading production?

Your prejudice might be easier to sell if Matthews wasn’t so patently culpable. But because he is, your preferences need to shift to where the weight of evidence is dragging your misplaced premises.

 

[ITM]

Nylander last 5 years playoffs Top 10 in P/PG min 20 games played.
I'm surprised where he ranks.

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I’m not in the least.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Lesson for the idiots who only parrot the offensive production of players in the playoffs and completely ignore their whole game performance.

Willy has now been responsible for 2 of the last 3 goals against.

1 was an OT goal where he didn't even attempt to pressure or defend.
1 was a dipsy-doodle in the neutral zone and a grenade pass that got stuffed back for a 2 on 2 and then he just coasted back towards his zone instead of hustling back. The fact that Bennet had to make a move and cut into the middle of the ice means he could have caught up and broken the play.


In order to make up for these 2 braindead plays, he has to contribute to 2 goals. Just to break even.

This is why just plain offensive numbers mean f*** all.

You recently said Nylander is defensively by far the worst player you've ever seen. I didn't comment on it then, I just thought to myself - holy hyperbole Batman.

Now you're yelling at clouds, calling people idiots. The irony of that just reminds of why I stopped taking your posts seriously a long time ago.

 

[GoonieFace]

Nylander with a bad pass that led
To the 2-0 goal

Also terrible in Game 3 on the overtime goal.

A pass to Tavares that led to a 2 on 2 that McCabe misplayed, really reaching here to blame him

 

[ZEBROA]

It was a pass they do million of times . That usally gets tapped/one touched into the offensive zone. I was a higher danger pass compared to some others, but not crazy in any way.

PP must score and anyone from the team 5v5.

Now lets win this best of three.

 

[sunstersun]

I thought he played ok, generated a good amount of chances. They're really locking into him. Need to find him some linemates.

 

[LeafEgo]

Lesson for the idiots who only parrot the offensive production of players in the playoffs and completely ignore their whole game performance.

Willy has now been responsible for 2 of the last 3 goals against.

1 was an OT goal where he didn't even attempt to pressure or defend.
1 was a dipsy-doodle in the neutral zone and a grenade pass that got stuffed back for a 2 on 2 and then he just coasted back towards his zone instead of hustling back. The fact that Bennet had to make a move and cut into the middle of the ice means he could have caught up and broken the play.


In order to make up for these 2 braindead plays, he has to contribute to 2 goals. Just to break even.

This is why just plain offensive numbers mean f*** all.

That's a pretty embarrassing goal against to try and throw biased shade on Willy. If you're going to troll, pick your punches at least.

I love McCabe, but boy was that ever a blooper. Poor Tanev couldn't believe it.

Nylander and Knies were the only great forwards tonight. Lotty was modestly moving as well from what I noticed.

 

[sunstersun]

That's a pretty embarrassing goal against to try and throw biased shade on Willy. If you're going to troll, pick your punches at least.

I love McCabe, but boy was that ever a blooper. Poor Tanev couldn't believe it.

Nylander and Knies were the only great forwards tonight. Lotty was modestly moving as well from what I noticed.

Lmao, people are so hooked on this Willy = bad defender.

Looking at the advanced stats literally nothing close to what people are saying. He's average, slightly above, slightly below.

Who cares. If Marner and Matthews could bring even one game breaking game like Willy wouldn't we be in the ECF by now???

 

[Rare Jewel]

Honestly, utter crap.

 

[sunstersun]

What's crazy is Florida has been matching up their shutdown line and best D against Willy.

Yet M & M can't do anything. Can we please get him a 2C that can skate fast with Tavares' money????

 

[sunstersun]

Just to refute this bad defender crap, advanced stats literally had him as a positive defender in round 1.

 

[1specter]

You guys do know that Maurice put Barkov line on Nylander now right? He's been using Lundell against Matthews because right now Matthews couldn't score on a soccer net and Mitch is a soft perimeter player, they're not afraid of that line and don't respect it. They had no answer against Nylander in the first two games so Maurice adjusted accordingly.

 

[Gabriel426]

Lesson for the idiots who only parrot the offensive production of players in the playoffs and completely ignore their whole game performance.

Willy has now been responsible for 2 of the last 3 goals against.

1 was an OT goal where he didn't even attempt to pressure or defend.
1 was a dipsy-doodle in the neutral zone and a grenade pass that got stuffed back for a 2 on 2 and then he just coasted back towards his zone instead of hustling back. The fact that Bennet had to make a move and cut into the middle of the ice means he could have caught up and broken the play.


In order to make up for these 2 braindead plays, he has to contribute to 2 goals. Just to break even.

This is why just plain offensive numbers mean f*** all.

You are a funny poster.

Considering the team got shut out.

If anything, it shows if Willie is not producing offense for the Leafs, the Leafs get shutout.

 

[1specter]

You are a funny poster.

Considering the team got shut out.

If anything, it shows if Willie is not producing offense for the Leafs, the Leafs get shutout.

Exactly.

 

[Gabriel426]

You guys do know that Maurice put Barkov line on Nylander now right? He's been using Lundell against Matthews because right now Matthews couldn't score on a soccer net and Mitch is a soft perimeter player, they're not afraid of that line and don't respect it. They had no answer against Nylander in the first two games so Maurice adjusted accordingly.

I want to Berube counter with Knies-JT-Willie against Barkov line.
Put Max with AM and MM and see if old man Max can light some fire under AM and MM behind.

 

[Rare Jewel]

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Just to refute this bad defender crap, advanced stats literally had him as a positive defender in round 1.

Ottawa and Florida are chalk and cheese.

He's also getting 71% OZS, compared to Matthews @ 52% against Barkov, mostly in the last 4 games.


He's been a timely goal scorer, and his talent is obvious, but some of the crap he does away from the puck sends you up the wall. Bad line changes, flybys, bad coverage, turnovers (like the 2-0 tonight).

He's got to clean it up.