Player Discussion William Nylander

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Not great for Willy. The only mitigating factor is on the slow-mo replay (not sure if anyone has posted it) it looks like he was aiming a bit lower and his stick bounced off of Schmidt's gloves and angled upwards... but "I was aiming for his throat" isn't much of an excuse.


The “rode up” excuse didn’t help Rielly last year and Meier just got a game for cross-checking a guy in the face. We all know the deal with Parros and DoPS. Expect a tweet will drop from them soon.
 

Jojalu

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Not great for Willy. The only mitigating factor is on the slow-mo replay (not sure if anyone has posted it) it looks like he was aiming a bit lower and his stick bounced off of Schmidt's gloves and angled upwards... but "I was aiming for his throat" isn't much of an excuse.

The fact that Tor fans belive he has no physicality to him won't him. Obvious intent in the NHL'S eyes.

29 game suspension
 

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Willy and Mitch are close and have been for two seasons now. I'd probably give the overall in that time to Willy and yes, because playoffs, Mitch has 2 more RS points and 4 more PO points...but 3 less PO goals in that time.

Mitch has been better so far but it's not like Willy is yanking his dong; Mitch has been a 9.5/10 and Willy has been a 9. It's again close.

Who passes who is a question for the future and to be settled in the playoffs, because RS I think Mitch beats him out by 10-15 points and better defensive play, but Willy gets 10-15 more goals.

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I think Willy does better in the playoffs not because he's more 'clutch' or anything, but because he's stronger, faster, shoots better and is more difficult to contain in a tight game.
Part of the reason I like Willy more is he has improved every season.

Mitch maybe outside of this season without Matthews has been the same player from 2018 when he scored 90 points.
 
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Leafs98

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I think he'll get suspended. The stick ends up at the guys face and he intended to go high. This sucks. They might be in forfeit territory Saturday.
 

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I don't know about a suspension. That was an accident, and not that much force. Remember Matthew's crosscheck on Dahlin? Five times more aggressive.
 

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Even since like 50 years ago, I always kept an eye on goal differential. When teams are close in the standings but one has a much better goal differential, that's usually the better team. So far this season, WPG, CAR and WSH are the top tier and the Leafs aren't even close. At the same time, I wouldn't read too much into this as it's still early, injuries, schedule and adjusting to a new system are all factors here.
As I said, not great, but I don't agree with the people who say it's bad.

WPG, CAR, and WSH, along with the Leafs, are 4 of the 7 teams with the fewest goals against. Even their goal differential, at +12, isn't bad - 9th overall.
 

notDatsyuk

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Clearly frustrated out there - I don't condone it, but sometimes you have to go over the edge.

The only question is what was he frustrated about: the uncalled hacking and whacking by Panthers or the lack of finish (or anything else) by his linemates (and I lost count of how many times he set up JT).

As for a suspension, I confidently predict somewhere between 0 and 40 games.
 

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I know this is a Willie thread but not getting why they signed his brother. He doesn’t bring much.
Not a liability this game wich you cannot say about most of the players. 2shots on goal 1 worse then the top shoting forwards in this game Marner and W Nylander. The same as Tavares and Roberstsson. 50%v faceoff. +- 0 in a 5-1 game, Ok in 10min playtime. I would take a chance and give him way more minutes, as he is one of those players that need heavy minutes to thrive.
If you are a Nylander you seem to be judged realy fast (like Willy as C). While others can go on sucking forever. Aint this just his second game?
They signed him because of injuries. Who would they have signed at that low cost?

I want to see him a few games with NHL players and more minutes, before i write him off.

Now i felt the need to write something about Will. Dont think he will get suspended.
 

Gary Nylund

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As I said, not great, but I don't agree with the people who say it's bad.

WPG, CAR, and WSH, along with the Leafs, are 4 of the 7 teams with the fewest goals against. Even their goal differential, at +12, isn't bad - 9th overall.
Sure, not bad at all. I'm just dreaming of winning the cup (yep, still dreaming despite being beaten down over the last 8 years) so thinking about who the top contenders are, and whether or not we're one of them. Based on goal differential, we're definitely not but like I said, it's still early. I wouldn't be surprised if we sold futures at the TDL either, I feel like we have a year or two to take a shot and then our D will be too old and our window will be closed.

Not a liability this game wich you cannot say about most of the players. 2shots on goal 1 worse then the top shoting forwards in this game Marner and W Nylander. The same as Tavares and Roberstsson. 50%v faceoff. +- 0 in a 5-1 game, Ok in 10min playtime. I would take a chance and give him way more minutes, as he is one of those players that need heavy minutes to thrive.
If you are a Nylander you seem to be judged realy fast (like Willy as C). While others can go on sucking forever. Aint this just his second game?
They signed him because of injuries. Who would they have signed at that low cost?

I want to see him a few games with NHL players and more minutes, before i write him off.

Now i felt the need to write something about Will. Dont think he will get suspended.
:thumbu::thumbu:
 

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The “rode up” excuse didn’t help Rielly last year and Meier just got a game for cross-checking a guy in the face. We all know the deal with Parros and DoPS. Expect a tweet will drop from them soon.
I'm not saying he won't get suspended, Parros basically spins a wheel for this stuff, but are you talking about Rielly's suspension for hitting someone long after an empty net goal from last year? That's a lot different than what happened last night.
 

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It didn't impact the game, but maybe good for reputation.

I like the old idea that a superstar should have a snap show moment once in a while and keep opponents at a healthy distance. The guy who really needed to invest in that reputation was Auston Matthews in his early years. If he had just shown the prison yard how mean and vicious he could be, play a guy mean like Dahlin, he’d get more room out there in the playoffs.

I also liked seeing Marner run Barkov from behind. Greasy and unnecessary. Playing the Panthers way.
 

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I like the old idea that a superstar should have a snap show moment once in a while and keep opponents at a healthy distance. The guy who really needed to invest in that reputation was Auston Matthews in his early years. If he had just shown the prison yard how mean and vicious he could be, play a guy mean like Dahlin, he’d get more room out there in the playoffs.

I also liked seeing Marner run Barkov from behind. Greasy and unnecessary. Playing the Panthers way.

And they did that without Reaves on the bench.
 

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Literally no chance he gets suspended for that. I was so confused when people were worried about his suspension, I'm like did I miss a play or something ? That's nothing.
 
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