Player Discussion William Nylander

[Racer88]

Lool naw

Pt is a point.

Players who are either bad play makers or having bad play making usually ahve fans pretend gap in goals can make up gap in total pts.

We see usually big time goal scorers struggle more in the playoffs vs all around elite pt producers (Matthews, OV some runs, Heatley, Stamkos, etc for example)

A goal should be worth more though. It’s a lot harder to score then it is to make a pass to a player that makes another pass to a player that has to beat a gigantic goal in the net to score.

 

[hamzarocks]

A goal should be worth more though. It’s a lot harder to score then it is to make a pass to a player that makes another pass to a player that has to beat a gigantic goal in the net to score.

Secondary assists are used to prop down play makers but a secondary assist can be a guy creating an opening or breakdown for the primary guy to set up an unmarked player for tap in or empty net/unpositioned goalie for a great look.

For a d-man, secondary assists represent break outs and puck transitions along with ability to QB a PP being able to move the puck to both sides quickly and drawing a shooter open to convert a primiary assist pass due to good and quick puck movement at the top of the point.

I just want our guys to get pts, and lead the be amongst the league in scoring. Whether its heavily goal driven or assist driven doesnt mean much to me, just be top 3-7 in scoring for 34, 16, and 88.

Right now Marner isnt creating enough offense with 14 pts in 13 games with 2 goals for example. He is short 3-4 goals and 2-3 assists for me

Nylander has 13 in 13 with 9 goals. He is short 5-6 assists

Matthews has 11 in 13, with 5 goals, he is short 5 goals and 5 assists for me.

Our team should is down in total goals b/c the core players arent producing enough

 

[Racer88]

Secondary assists are used to prop down play makers but a secondary assist can be a guy creating an opening or breakdown for the primary guy to set up an unmarked player for tap in or empty net/unpositioned goalie for a great look.

For a d-man, secondary assists represent break outs and puck transitions along with ability to QB a PP being able to move the puck to both sides quickly and drawing a shooter open to convert a primiary assist pass due to good and quick puck movement at the top of the point.

I just want our guys to get pts, and lead the be amongst the league in scoring. Whether its heavily goal driven or assist driven doesnt mean much to me, just be top 3-7 in scoring for 34, 16, and 88.

Right now Marner isnt creating enough offense with 14 pts in 13 games with 2 goals for example. He is short 3-4 goals and 2-3 assists for me

Nylander has 13 in 13 with 9 goals. He is short 5-6 assists

Matthews has 11 in 13, with 5 goals, he is short 5 goals and 5 assists for me.

Our team should is down in total goals b/c the core players arent producing enough

Ya, I can live with that analysis

Ya, I can live with that analysis

 

[ACC1224]

Yeah, just a couple or so right?

No one is talking about who the best player on the team is on a regular basis, we know the answer to that question. However, Matthews hasn't even been the best forward on his line for most of these games, so I fail to see how you could make an argument that anyone (besides Stolarz if you count goalies) has performed better than him AS OF NOW.

Yes I understand that is your opinion and that a few others share it.

 

[GoonieFace]

For now, I expect Matthews will be by the end of the year.

Him or Marner most likely, based on usage and Willy can’t expect to carry 2 corpses around for another 70 games.

 

[notDatsyuk]

He needs to be better

13 pts in 13 games isnt going to cut it at 11.5M

Luckily for him 13.25M and 10.93 top line duo have been worse as they play together

Right now all 3 of Matthews, Marner, Nylander are underproducing. Hopefully can get it going these next 10-15 games

5th in the league in goals and 3rd at ES - badly underproducing, especially for a second liner.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Pastrnak scores 110 points a year with crap line mates. When you demand to be paid as elite it isn't on your team mates to make you a superstar. He has to find the gear he had first half of last season.

But a ppg on 18:00 a night is hardly choking and right now P-T-N are the runaway leaders on the club for ES production. Willie is well ahead of his ES game from last year. Right now its the pp that needs to get rolling.

I'm not sure Pastrnak is a good comparison this year - in the same number of games he has 6G and 11 pts and is a -4, while averaging almost a minute more per game. Also, I'm not sure his line mates are any more 'crap' than what Nylander usually gets, plus he's top line and the go-to guy on a very good PP.