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Keefe made an interesting point about Nylander during the post game. He says that Willy tends to keep his shifts short, which is something I've noticed as well. Personally I don't think he has quite the same stamina as a guy like say Marner. Saying that, I think he would be fine getting the same deployment as a guy like Marner minus the pk time (ie. Being out there prior to a tv time out and then being out there again right after). I think getting Nylander near the 20 minute mark should be the goal. Especially if Matthews and Marner don't want to put the puck in the net.
 
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Willchel Marlynder said:
Keefe made an interesting point about Nylander during the post game. He says that Willy tends to keep his shifts short, which is something I've noticed as well. Personally I don't think he has quite the same stamina as a guy like say Marner. Saying that, I think he would be fine getting the same deployment as a guy like Marner minus the pk time (ie. Being out there prior to a tv time out and then being out there again right after). I think getting Nylander near the 20 minute mark should be the goal. Especially if Matthews and Marner don't want to put the puck in the net.
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I think Nylander is more of your sprinter, while Marner is your marathon guy. One gets a lot done in short bursts but isn't as effective when out longer, the other excels when he has more time.
 
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Willchel Marlynder said:
Keefe made an interesting point about Nylander during the post game. He says that Willy tends to keep his shifts short, which is something I've noticed as well. Personally I don't think he has quite the same stamina as a guy like say Marner. Saying that, I think he would be fine getting the same deployment as a guy like Marner minus the pk time (ie. Being out there prior to a tv time out and then being out there again right after). I think getting Nylander near the 20 minute mark should be the goal. Especially if Matthews and Marner don't want to put the puck in the net.
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It probably has to do with the fact that Nylander is so much faster and stronger than Marner

Also shorter shifts are a good thing. Maybe Marner should try it and put some more effort into his shifts.
 
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At even-strength, the issue with Nylander, or at least the line he's been on with... he ends up being tied for 6th in goal-differential with the fourth most ice-time.
To give him more ice-time safely, about the only thing you can do is replace Marner with him. Otherwise, when you take the whole package, putting Nylander out
is also accepting something like Galchenyuk, who is giving up the puck 3.84/60, 2nd worst on the team. Think the only option would be to double-shift him at times.
 
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moon111 said:
At even-strength, the issue with Nylander, or at least the line he's been on with... he ends up being tied for 6th in goal-differential with the fourth most ice-time.
To give him more ice-time safely, about the only thing you can do is replace Marner with him. Otherwise, when you take the whole package, putting Nylander out
is also accepting something like Galchenyuk, who is giving up the puck 3.84/60, 2nd worst on the team. Think the only option would be to double-shift him at times.
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I would swap Marner and Nylander, at least for the first period.
 
Mats13 said:
It probably has to do with the fact that Nylander is so much faster and stronger than Marner

Also shorter shifts are a good thing. Maybe Marner should try it and put some more effort into his shifts.
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I love Marner but it always pisses me off when his linemates change and he stays out for an extra 30 seconds, I never liked personally when any of my teammates would do that growing up.

Anyways this is the best 5 game stretch I've seen from Nylander in his career, last night was the best game he's ever played imo. Let's hope he realises how effective he is when he plays with confidence and demands the puck, because if he plays this well and has JT as his center, watch out.
 
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shaner82 said:
I would swap Marner and Nylander, at least for the first period.
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Putting Marner on another line might be quite the surprise. Remember Babcock putting Marner down on the fourth line to punish him.
Think the end result was Matt Martin ended up with three assists one game, which is pretty good considering Kapanen only had two
assists the entire season as the other fourth line winger. Of course Kap, having one of the worst historical assists/60 of all-time, including
fourth line all the fourth line goons that ever played, was put on a line with Matthews because of Babcock-logic next season. Coaches
don't seem to mess around unless they're really desperate.
 
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Putting Marner on another line might be quite the surprise. Remember Babcock putting Marner down on the fourth line to punish him.
Think the end result was Matt Martin ended up with three assists one game, which is pretty good considering Kapanen only had two
assists the entire season as the other fourth line winger. Of course Kap, having one of the worst historical assists/60 of all-time, including
fourth line all the fourth line goons that ever played, was put on a line with Matthews because of Babcock-logic next season. Coaches
don't seem to mess around unless they're really desperate.
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He was never put on the 4th line as punishment. Whenever Babcock put someone on the 4th line it was for them to find their game against lower competition

I hated Babcock deployment but he did get some things right. He was developing kids at the NHL level
 
shaner82 said:
I would swap Marner and Nylander, at least for the first period.
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The only thing that would give me pause here is Marner hasn't had time to develop chemistry with the other guys on the 2nd. Though I'd also like to see Nylander start getting some 5v5 shifts with Matthews on top of him joining the top pp unit
 
Oscar Peterson said:
I love Marner but it always pisses me off when his linemates change and he stays out for an extra 30 seconds, I never liked personally when any of my teammates would do that growing up.

Anyways this is the best 5 game stretch I've seen from Nylander in his career, last night was the best game he's ever played imo. Let's hope he realises how effective he is when he plays with confidence and demands the puck, because if he plays this well and has JT as his center, watch out.
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Funny, long shifts was something M Nylander was known for. Short shifts is great to stay effective. And it wont mess with the other lines.
 
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Willchel Marlynder said:
Keefe made an interesting point about Nylander during the post game.
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I heard that too. Also in his post game after Game 5... in reference to Nylander's limited ice time. I think the kid has been incredible this series--the most dangerous Leaf for sure. Matthews are Marner need to find a way to wake up and take a game over... and fast... the way guys like MacKinnon, Marchand, Kucherov have been doing.
 
Montreal really doesn't have any firepower 5 on 5. I would try to load up a line to start the game and see what happens.

Nylander-Matthews-Marner
Mikheyev-Engvall-Hyman (HEM line)
Galchenyuk-Kerfoot-Simmonds
Thornton-Brooks-Spezza

Go heavy with the 1st and mix in the other 3 lines where needed.
 
Willchel Marlynder said:
Keefe made an interesting point about Nylander during the post game. He says that Willy tends to keep his shifts short, which is something I've noticed as well. Personally I don't think he has quite the same stamina as a guy like say Marner. Saying that, I think he would be fine getting the same deployment as a guy like Marner minus the pk time (ie. Being out there prior to a tv time out and then being out there again right after). I think getting Nylander near the 20 minute mark should be the goal. Especially if Matthews and Marner don't want to put the puck in the net.
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I agree

Go with the hot hand.
 
If 16 and 34 don't want to produce then hopefully 88 keeps carrying the slack.

2 point game for willie and he's tied for 3rd in points!
 
I would like to be the first to take credit for Nylander's amazing production for this series . . . we got our son a Leafs jersey a little while back, and while his name is on the back, his current number is 88. And he has worn the jersey and watched every game from start to finish - except for last game, where he missed the whole first period (hence why Nylander only got 2 assists, instead of a goal). That's on dad here, and it won't happen again.

My son (pictured as a baby btw in my photo) WILL ;) in fact be wearing his jersey today from start of the game to finish, so I think we can all expect a goal from Nylander today.

We got this :thumbu:
 
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I'm glad the haters are eating it right now; but it will take a single streak of not scoring for them to come out of the shadows.
 
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slozo said:
I would like to be the first to take credit for Nylander's amazing production for this series . . . we got our son a Leafs jersey a little while back, and while his name is on the back, his current number is 88. And he has worn the jersey and watched every game from start to finish - except for last game, where he missed the whole first period (hence why Nylander only got 2 assists, instead of a goal). That's on dad here, and it won't happen again.

My son (pictured as a baby btw in my photo) WILL ;) in fact be wearing his jersey today from start of the game to finish, so I think we can all expect a goal from Nylander today.

We got this :thumbu:
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Can you buy your son a 34 and 16 jersey?
 
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LeafsOHLRangers98 said:
Montreal really doesn't have any firepower 5 on 5. I would try to load up a line to start the game and see what happens.

Nylander-Matthews-Marner
Mikheyev-Engvall-Hyman (HEM line)
Galchenyuk-Kerfoot-Simmonds
Thornton-Brooks-Spezza

Go heavy with the 1st and mix in the other 3 lines where needed.
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I wouldn't worry about stacking the top line when the 2nd line with Nylander, Kerfoot, and Galchenyuk have found ways to be effective on their own.

Besides, a large part of the problem is Marner not being able to make plays. Nylander gives them another guy to worry about more than Hyman, but ultimately it is on Marner being able to make the plays he needs to make as well. Unless Matthews is wide open, which Montreal is making sure does not happen as much as possible, nothing happens with Marner. That can't happen with a guy who is handling the puck as much as he is. If he is not going to be a driver, then get him off the line and let Matthews take over the reins.
 
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