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Speculation: Will we see a significant trade before the season starts?

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aj8000 said:
I do not have to give up on anything. My stance is Trouba is staying with the Jets; however, the only deal I see possible (however unlikely) to have Trouba move is the Ducks having money issues and trading down to solve their problem. Until the ducks sign both RFAs, you can never say never. The Ducks are likely not getting any team to just take salary off their books so they can sign their RFAs. They need to give something to a team to solve the money issue and like it or not, Trouba on a team friendly contract might be enough. It also would not surprise me that one or both have asked for a trade as well.
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Well the Ducks have already said they aren't trading Lindholm to the Jets and they don't see a fit for Trouba. So yeah, we can say that Lindholm for Trouba is not happening. And all we need to do is trade Fowler for futures if things start to get desperate money wise.

It would surprise anyone else if they asked for a trade since both of have said they love playing in Anaheim and want to stay. Also just because they aren't sign in no way means they've asked for a trade; that situation only applies to Trouba and Reider right now.
 
NH57 said:
I'll put $100 that none of those happen.

Winnipeg will ask for Reilly, Toronto declines, Toronto offers Gardiner, Winnipeg declines, Winnipeg counters with Gardiner and a 1st, Toronto declines, then counters with Gardiner and a mid-prospect, Winnipeg declines, phone call over.

Philly doesn't have anything that'll interest Calgary for Gaudreau. Maybe Giroux, but it can be argued that Giroux has passed his peak, while Gaudreau hasn't reached his yet.

Tampa will want Forsberg for Kucherov, Nashville declines citing it as a pretty lateral move, they'd rather keep their own young superstar who's currently under contract.

JVR to Anaheim is the only one that makes some sense, but I don't see it happening as Anaheim will want to shed salary, not take more on.
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Correction, Philly doesn't have anything they'd be willing to part with, that would interest Calgary.

If they didn't just extend Schenn, a deal around Schenn + for Gaudreau would have made sense. But now they aren't going to trade him before he even plays a game of his extension.
 
dracom said:
Well the Ducks have already said they aren't trading Lindholm to the Jets and they don't see a fit for Trouba. So yeah, we can say that Lindholm for Trouba is not happening. And all we need to do is trade Fowler for futures if things start to get desperate money wise.

It would surprise anyone else if they asked for a trade since both of have said they love playing in Anaheim and want to stay. Also just because they aren't sign in no way means they've asked for a trade; that situation only applies to Trouba and Reider right now.
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They both love playing in Anaheim, and Trouba said the left side was not an issue and would be playing on opening night. What they say to the media means nothing. Depending on how bad the Ducks internal budget issue is, you may very well see one of them traded. I really do not care one way or another if a deal is made between the ducks and the jets because in the end Trouba will sign with the Jets.
 
Number1RedWingsFan52 said:
So Lou's going to eat $2.125 million from JVR while taking on $7.25 million between Fowler and Stoner since when does that make any sense. When is any GM willing to help out another GM with their cap issues like maybe never.
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The plus isn't going to be a 3rd or 4th round pick. It would be Ritchie or Montour plus. That's Lou's incentive. The ducks would also do this deal, as it means they keep lindholm and rackell, while getting their much needed first line scorer
 
The Podium said:
You have to jump on the opportunity when the opportunity arises. Babcock probably wasn't a move for the rebuild, but he was available and Shanny secured our coaching issue. Right now more D are available than there have been in recent years. Yes you can draft one, but this draft is shaping up to be forward heavy, so unless the Leafs tank for Liljegren the D may only be solved through a trade. We still have enough talent to insulate the kids. Yes not to the extent of JVR but enough. Rielly and Zaitsev on the other hand will be like deers caught in the headlights. Do you want another season of Rielly second guessing his partner (Hunwick or Marincin) or on his offside? Or do you want a relatively established RHD to pair with him to give him offensive freedom? If you do that then Zaitsev is left exposed and it'll likely cost Gardiner.

Ultimately I feel more comfortable sacrificing offensive talent as they are in a better position to succeed then our young D.
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I have to disagree. Getting the best coach available and one of the top guys in the game to teach your kids the right habits and his system right off the bat makes a lot of sense. I agree we can afford to give away some offensive talent but again, Bozak and prospects/picks make more sense. Trading our only first line talent puts way to much pressure on the kids to carry the offense.

Don't worry about Rielly, he is already a top pairing defenseman and he thrived after Dion was traded. There will always be players available and while I agree Trouba would fill our needs perfectly the price has to make sense for us and we have to be able to offer something that makes sense to them.

A 3 way trade is far fetched, if we did make a trade for Trouba I am confident saying Gardiner would have to be part of the package, not JVR.
 
Just my guess;
Fowler to Mtl for NHL ready ELC prospects and picks
Emelin to NJ for a pick
Trouba to Bos for Krug and a pick
 
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RebelBully said:
Correction, Philly doesn't have anything they'd be willing to part with, that would interest Calgary.

If they didn't just extend Schenn, a deal around Schenn + for Gaudreau would have made sense. But now they aren't going to trade him before he even plays a game of his extension.
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Extension or not, I don't see how Schenn+ even gets the conversation started on Gaudreau.

I don't think your "correction" corrected anything.
 
RebelBully said:
Correction, Philly doesn't have anything they'd be willing to part with, that would interest Calgary.

If they didn't just extend Schenn, a deal around Schenn + for Gaudreau would have made sense. But now they aren't going to trade him before he even plays a game of his extension.
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The + attached to Schenn would have to be a pretty significant asset(s)...
Calgary isn't going to accept Schenn as the main piece coming back for Gaudreau...
 
If I'm GM of the Ducks I'm looking to unload Getzlaf at every opportunity.

Very lacklustre season last year (improved in the last quarter) and a very lacklustre performance at the WCH.

It would free up all the space they need for signing RFAs under their budget.

I just can't see Getzlaf getting better as time goes on.

As far as trades go, the Leafs are going to have to do a lot in the next week to make moves as they have way too many people that they can't all fit on the NHL roster.

I VERY MUCH doubt we will see Toronto land any of the "I want a trade" group of RFAs.

Most likely the Leafs will make a cap dump trade where they unload a bunch of vets on expiring deals (Michalek, Laich, etc.) for a better player on a worse deal.
 
As far as Trouba goes he is a terrible character person and I can't see any good organization going after him in a trade.

Maybe Buffalo will offer up Ristolainen +++++++++++++++ in another heinously moronic trade like they did for Evander "Therapist" Kane. FFS the Jets have all five players acquired from Buffalo under pro contract and who knows if Kane is going to play a game again.

Trouba has a bad reputation and lack of commitment to health.

The Jets are just waiting for another shtoop to drop by with way too much to offer.
 
NH57 said:
The + attached to Schenn would have to be a pretty significant asset(s)...
Calgary isn't going to accept Schenn as the main piece coming back for Gaudreau...
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Schenn only has a $5m cap hit, so there would have to be another contract going with him anyway.

No point trading for Gaudreau when you don't have the cap space to sign him.
 
indigobuffalo said:
If I'm GM of the Ducks I'm looking to unload Getzlaf at every opportunity.

Very lacklustre season last year (improved in the last quarter) and a very lacklustre performance at the WCH.

It would free up all the space they need for signing RFAs under their budget.

I just can't see Getzlaf getting better as time goes on.

As far as trades go, the Leafs are going to have to do a lot in the next week to make moves as they have way too many people that they can't all fit on the NHL roster.

I VERY MUCH doubt we will see Toronto land any of the "I want a trade" group of RFAs.

Most likely the Leafs will make a cap dump trade where they unload a bunch of vets on expiring deals (Michalek, Laich, etc.) for a better player on a worse deal.
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Anaheim is trying to contend, and you're suggestion for squeezing our RFAs into the budget is to move our #1 center? Lmao
 
RebelBully said:
Correction, Philly doesn't have anything they'd be willing to part with, that would interest Calgary.

If they didn't just extend Schenn, a deal around Schenn + for Gaudreau would have made sense. But now they aren't going to trade him before he even plays a game of his extension.
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The Leafs would love to get Giroux. If only we didn't just sign Kadri to an extension we could have done Kadri +, but that won't happen now.

As you can see, this makes no sense. Gaudreau would command a huge package of youth, and Schenn as the starting piece gets Philly hung up on.
 
LeafsRockForBabcock said:
The Leafs would love to get Giroux. If only we didn't just sign Kadri to an extension we could have done Kadri +, but that won't happen now.

As you can see, this makes no sense. Gaudreau would command a huge package of youth, and Schenn as the starting piece gets Philly hung up on.
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I'm not sure about that. Schenn + Raffl + Konecny would be a pretty good offer.
 
I think the most significant player to move will be Tobias Reider. And maybe Yakupov, but considering what he has done in the NHL the only significance there is in his name. Maybe Reider for Yakupov and a pick could work? Not sure.

So nothing overly significant. Gaudreau, Kucherov and Ristolainen will all sign before the season starts or shortly into it. Trouba will be sitting on his butt until he decides to sign with the Jets or Winnipeg gets an amazing offer that likely isn't out there. The Ducks might pay someone to take Stoner off their hands to help their cap situation.
 
Curufinwe said:
I'm not sure about that. Schenn + Raffl + Konecny would be a pretty good offer.
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I personally disagree. From my understanding they are pretty set for wings, and the downgrade from Godreau to Schenn isn't worth it for a prospect and a 3rd liner.

It is also my understanding Calgary is coming out of their rebuild, and trading their best player under 23 for more prospects accomplishes the opposite.

If he was to move, IMO it has to be for another similar aged player, in a Hall / Larsson type move.
 
The Podium said:
Something around Trouba for Gardiner (RHD for LHD) then JVR (50%retained) for Fowler (cap space + LW for LHD) makes too much sense and has been relatively accepted by all 3 fanbases so far.
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How exactly would that work for the Leafs Cap though?
 
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