Value of: Will Smith to Habs

domiwroze

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We are not moving up for Smith, we're happy to pick him at 5 tho if SJ goes with Michkov.

Habs calls Flyers and Caps which both of them want to move up for Michkov.

best offer win, you have 5 minutes on the clock : Go.
If it's not an overpay, we're happy to draft him.
 
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Andrei79

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Draft day.

Bedard, Fantilli, and Carlsson are the top 3 picks.

Mike Grier calls Montreal and tells them he is going to select Smith but Is willing to swap picks for the right offer.

What is Montreal willing to add to #5?

As a Sharks fan, I'm curious what do you think SJ would want ?

This is something I would do, personally.
 
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DramaticGloveSave

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if Hughes knows hes not taking Michkov, then getting Smith at #4 is a significant jump from taking a Leonard or Reinbacher.

Id give the 31st pick or Kidney/Farrell maybe even Mailloux


ANA arent giving up Fantilli unless someone like Caufield with the 5th are coming back
More like Guhle and the 5th.
 

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As a Sharks fan, I'm curious what do you think SJ would want ?

This is something I would do, personally.
1st line centers are too hard to obtain. Personally, I think the Sharks should just draft Smith as long as they believe he can be a 1C in the NHL. There is a group of Sharks fans that would prefer Michkov. There are others who would like to see us trade down and add picks. I just wanted to see what Montreal fans think about making a move for Smith.
 

Andrei79

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1st line centers are too hard to obtain. Personally, I think the Sharks should just draft Smith as long as they believe he can be a 1C in the NHL. There is a group of Sharks fans that would prefer Michkov. There are others who would like to see us trade down and add picks. I just wanted to see what Montreal fans think about making a move for Smith.

I would go for futures (31st and 37 pick, a prospect). Wouldn't mind giving some roster players on top of it that have some NHL potential, but aren't crucial parts of the future (Ylonen, Farrell, Struble). I wouldn't trade someone who's looked upon to fill in an important role (Guhle, Mailloux). I would think about it if it was Barron.
 

Petes2424

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Draft day.

Bedard, Fantilli, and Carlsson are the top 3 picks.

Mike Grier calls Montreal and tells them he is going to select Smith but Is willing to swap picks for the right offer.

What is Montreal willing to add to #5?
Willing, or what is it going to cost? It’s no secret who the Top 4 players are likely to be. Right now 4th overall is worth quite a bit. Whether you’re going from 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9.

San Jose needs young assets. Whether prospects, young players or more draft picks. Unfortunately they don’t have a lot to move, that’s going to give them too many extra picks. They’re going to have to get creative. Whether that’s retaining AAV, taking cap dumps, etc. Or trading this pick.

They should absolutely, 100% trade this pick.

Get as much as they can, while still staying in the Top 11-12. Arizona and Detroit probably have the most draft capital to move. Would they? Who knows.

In this situation, it’s not crazy to demand Florida’s pick from Montreal. For argument sake, let’s say however, it’s Montreal’s 2nd and 3rd round pick, as well as a prospect like Norlinder. It will cost that much. At least.

Then they should move down again. Let’s go with Washington because they’re the team Michkov is connected to the most. It’s going to cost the Caps 2nd round pick this year, 1st Round pick next year and 2 nice prospects like Suzdalev and Iorio. At least.

They can do things like this to grab assets. Doesn’t have to be this example, but it’s absolutely possible.

They’d end up with another 1st, two 2nds, a 3rd and 3 pretty good prospects. Plus they’d still be able to draft a player like Dvorsky or Danielson.

Sounds like a lot but it really isn’t if they’re basically trading Smith, and then Michkov.

That’s how you turn a franchise around. A franchise who’s horrible in every aspect right now. They need to add as many young assets as possible. To do this and still end up with a great C prospect, who for all we know, ends up as good as Smith anyway? You have to do it. It’s not an exaggeration that they can get this type of a return.

Just think they’re doing themselves a disservice by not trading out, and trading down at least twice. If that means going to 7, and then 12, than that’s what they have to do. They could really turn one pick into a killing.
 

HuGort

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Draft day.

Bedard, Fantilli, and Carlsson are the top 3 picks.

Mike Grier calls Montreal and tells them he is going to select Smith but Is willing to swap picks for the right offer.

What is Montreal willing to add to #5?
Imagine Grier will want Montreal to retain on Karlsson
 

ffh

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Draft day.

Bedard, Fantilli, and Carlsson are the top 3 picks.

Mike Grier calls Montreal and tells them he is going to select Smith but Is willing to swap picks for the right offer.

What is Montreal willing to add to #5?
Well right off the bat he wouldn't tell them who he would pick. Only what Montreal was willing to pay for the pick.
 

John Mandalorian

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Montreal says Merci, hungs up and drafts Mitchkov

You need to set the scene more. Is Montreal wearing a wig or a fake mustache at least? Is Montreal using a voice disguiser? Is there a bead of sweat running down Montreals face?

You could have done so much more with this as a story teller.
 

Frank Drebin

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I'll make a prediction that Smith is available at 5 and the Habs pass on him.
There are definitely going to be some of these WTF moments tomorrow. Not sure if it will be Smith, or another player but someone will go way higher and someone will go way lower than predicted.
 

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Some feistiness from San Jose. What could could wrong here.
 

Sendhelplease

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Media has spined things so much that some fans think the Habs don't want Michkov now. False. Media reports are less accurate than the weather man folks.

Smith or Michkov. Easy decision. BPA
I don't see how you can make a definitive statement either way on this. Maybe the media reports are smokescreens and not actually true or maybe they are accurate leaks. Either way we the fans don't know and we will only find out draft day.
 

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