Player Discussion Will Slafkovsky better last years stats

[Gravity]

He might not eclipse 50 points this year but this might be his sophomore slump. His ceiling is not 50-60 points LMAO, it's PPG. I will bet money with anyone that Slaf eclipses 60 points next season.

 

[VT]

Logan Cooley is 6’0 now and is a point a game player.

Logan Cooley is playing in Utah, not in Montréal. There are other conditions. You can only compare players if they either have the same conditions, or show how one player plays in worse conditions (now I'm not saying Slaf has worse conditions, I mean general) versus the other,engines play in better ones.

 

[Naslundforever]

He might not eclipse 50 points this year but this might be his sophomore slump. His ceiling is not 50-60 points LMAO, it's PPG. I will bet money with anyone that Slaf eclipses 60 points next season.

There were only like 25 ppg players last year in the league; would be nice but scoring would need to go way up me thinks. A 50-60 pts 230 pounder that can make plays is something every top 6 can use I figure.

 

[ReHabs]

Logan Cooley is playing in Utah, not in Montréal. There are other conditions. You can only compare players if they either have the same conditions, or show how one player plays in worse conditions (now I'm not saying Slaf has worse conditions, I mean general) versus the other,engines play in better ones.

Hockey players on different teams shouldn’t be compared? Is this really your opinion, have you thought this through?

 

[Gravity]

There were only like 25 ppg players last year in the league; would be nice but scoring would need to go way up me thinks. A 50-60 pts 230 pounder that can make plays is something every top 6 can use I figure.

If he hit 50 points as a lanky 19 year old, it's nonsensical to say his ceiling is 50-60 points.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I'm literally the biggest negative nancy , nothing can go right or will go right for the habs type of guy for my entire existence on this earth and even I'm not really worried about Slaf going forward lol

 

[Naslundforever]

If he hit 50 points as a lanky 19 year old, it's nonsensical to say his ceiling is 50-60 points.

It’s a good sign for sure but Demidov will most likely take his 1st line + pp1 minutes so factoring that I would totally consider a 60pts player with his tools a total win. 25 players in the entire nhl means less than one per team after all. I mean look at the list of 60pt players, I see 88? That’s about 3 per team so totally 1st line production (not counting a few standout D’s)

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[Gravity]

There were only like 25 ppg players last year in the league; would be nice but scoring would need to go way up me thinks. A 50-60 pts 230 pounder that can make plays is something every top 6 can use I figure.

We're talking about an absolute ceiling here.

It’s a good sign for sure but Demidov will most likely take his 1st line + pp1 minutes so factoring that I would totally consider a 60pts player with his tools a total win. 25 players in the entire nhl means less than one per team after all. I mean look at the list of 60pt players, I see 88? That’s about 3 per team so totally 1st line production (not counting a few standout D’s)

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Unlikely. Who's screening the goalie on the PP then? Hutson . I would argue that Slaf is the most immovable piece on PP1 figuratively and literally .

 

[ginomini]

I think he settles around Landeskog in terms of production and impact and that would be awesome. 50-70 pts and a few PPG seasons when the team is going full steam.

 

[Naslundforever]

We're talking about an absolute ceiling here.

Unlikely. Who's screening the goalie on the PP then? Hutson . I would argue that Slaf is the most immovable piece on PP1 figuratively and literally .

I think 60pts is a great ceiling is the thing; it’s ok if that disappoints you somehow we can’t judge each other’s expectations. A 25g-35a guy is a really good nhler.

Slaf has attributes lacking for me that will hold him back from the cream but believe with xp his game will level out and be predictably good..

If you want to go there I’ll crapshoot his best season ever will be a massive 72 pts lol. That would need career seasons for his linemates imo.

As far as screening the goalie anyone can do that; Caufield is the only really short guy. Heck Gally made a career there. You bring 1 or 2 D with you in front and you’re good. If Demidov turns out top 20ish wingers in the league or better at ppg it’s a no-brainer for me he’s pp1 material. pp1= best offensive players for me and believe in not over thinking the game.

 

[Gravity]

I think 60pts is a great ceiling is the thing; it’s ok if that disappoints you somehow we can’t judge each other’s expectations. A 25g-35a guy is a really good nhler.

Slaf has attributes lacking for me that will hold him back from the cream but believe with xp his game will level out and be predictably good..

If you want to go there I’ll crapshoot his best season ever will be a massive 72 pts lol. That would need career seasons for his linemates imo.

As far as screening the goalie anyone can do that; Caufield is the only really short guy. Heck Gally made a career there. You bring 1 or 2 D with you in front and you’re good. If Demidov turns out top 20ish wingers in the league or better at ppg it’s a no-brainer for me he’s pp1 material. pp1= best offensive players for me and believe in not over thinking the game.

We can agree to disagree on Slaf's ceiling. Gally wasn't a great net front presence, he was just there lol. Demidov will 100% be on PP1 but not at the cost of Slaf imo.

 

[Kennerback]

As far as screening the goalie anyone can do that; Caufield is the only really short guy. Heck Gally made a career there. You bring 1 or 2 D with you in front and you’re good. If Demidov turns out top 20ish wingers in the league or better at ppg it’s a no-brainer for me he’s pp1 material. pp1= best offensive players for me and believe in not over thinking the game.

I don’t think Dach can take the regular net front presence because I think he can’t sustain the regular abuse Slaf, Gallagher and Armia take there and he ‘ll get injured. Caufield is too short and he’s better elsewhere. If we’re insane and know nothing about hockey and PPs we can ask to put Laine there before he tells us to f*** off.

Other than Slaf, Suzuki could probably take the abuse, though he’s a bit short. Then you need to figure, would Suzuki put up a fuss or if the team is better off he plays elsewhere? Then from other lines you can get Armia or perhaps Heineman. Anderson can’t make a pass if his life depended on it.

 

[Heffyhoof]

60 point ceiling Posters' desperate need to seem smart and 'future-focused' and not wrong comes off as so dumb and unsubtle.

 

[Naslundforever]

60 point ceiling Posters' desperate need to seem smart and 'future-focused' and not wrong comes off as so dumb and unsubtle.

Don’t know if I’m the guy you claim to have a telepathic link with but I didn’t actually say his ceiling was 60pts, I replied to someone saying it’s much higher to say 60 pts is really good (there are very few ppg players).

If you weren’t referring to me have a nice day.

 

[Rapala]

We're talking about an absolute ceiling here.

Unlikely. Who's screening the goalie on the PP then? Hutson . I would argue that Slaf is the most immovable piece on PP1 figuratively and literally .

Slaf has no clue how to properly screen a goaltender. I've seen Kirby Dach Screen 10x better than Slaff in the past week alone leading up to two goals. Being great at net front takes more than just a big body it takes timing it takes elusiveness and great stick control. As far as net front goes I think you are wrong Gallagher while maybe not great with the screen has been decent all these years because of his ability to keep his stick freed up for deflections and two foot goals. So while Slaff can command space he has to do much more than that to become effective. You can tell it's not something he's practiced in.

 

[ReHabs]

Slaf can get a lot more than 60pts a season. His upside is very high.

The question has always been: why does he have less than 25pts in half a season, why did he have 10pts in his draft year, why did he have 10pts in his first NHL season (half season), why was he bone dry for half of his sophomore season, etc.

It’s the downside that is super frustrating, inexplicable.

 

[Naslundforever]

Slaf can get a lot more than 60pts a season. His upside is very high.

The question has always been: why does he have less than 25pts in half a season, why did he have 10pts in his draft year, why did he have 10pts in his first NHL season (half season), why was he bone dry for half of his sophomore season, etc.

It’s the downside that is super frustrating, inexplicable.

Explicable he’s the threat when skating and keeping it simple. His downside is when he tries to outsmart people and gets hypnotized. He should just be predictable and hustle. Pretty sure xp fixes his lows easy. He’s having a lot of good games recently.

Maybe he turns into Conan at the end of the movie there when he builds all these traps and becomes a one man army. Conan with brains. Shivers.

 

[Habricot]

Its a bit depressing to see all the comments here. If Slaf maintains his current PPG ratio he would be at 49pts in 82game. We know that he is playing at a higher clip then that in the past 20 games. There is not reason for him not to reach this 50pts this year. I feel people forget how young he is and time time it takes to learn to play with his big body and with the pace this team needs him to play.

Look at Suzuki, his game is still improving, same for Caufield. Slaf is no different his game will keep improving. This team is doing a good job at development of players. It will pay off.

Time will tell but putting a ceiling on him is way too early. He has a very good passing game and a very hard shot that he still takes too long to wind. Once he puts all the pieces together he will be the guy along with Dmidov and Hutson for this franchise.

Its very nice that Cooley has a pt per game this year. I am really happy for him. I would not trade Slaf one for one for Cooley.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Doublechin]

I just want him to use his body more, he needs to get more physical, I'd take 50 points a year if he's able to minimally adapt a physical power forward game

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Slaf can get a lot more than 60pts a season. His upside is very high.

The question has always been: why does he have less than 25pts in half a season, why did he have 10pts in his draft year, why did he have 10pts in his first NHL season (half season), why was he bone dry for half of his sophomore season, etc.

It’s the downside that is super frustrating, inexplicable.

It's an easy explanation: He's young and developing at his own pace.

 

[ReHabs]

It's an easy explanation: He's young and developing at his own pace.

Great explanation, thank you.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Great explanation, thank you.

See how easy that was. Far from inexplicable. How did you like his 2 point game last night?

 

[ReHabs]

See how easy that was. Far from inexplicable. How did you like his 2 point game last night?

I remember Galchenyuk and Kostitsyn developed at their own pace. I prefer the pace Brady Tkachuk and Logan Cooley developed, personally, but it’s a matter of taste.

Thank GOD Lane Hutson chose to develop a quicker rate than Slafkvosky. I respect players who develop faster — again this is just a matter of taste. I won’t be able to convince you the Hutson-pace is better for the Habs than the Slafkvosky-pace.

I haven’t watched full games this past week but I appreciate Slafkvosky is almost on pace to beat his PPG from last year. A flat development trajectory is better than a negative one, I always say.

 

[japhi27returns]

Big players almost always take a bit longer to get going in the NHL. Thornton has a pathetic few first seasons, first Ballot HOF. Sedins couldn’t stay on their skates for 3 years, they became possession monsters.

Big bodies take more time to adjust to the speed of game, this is so obvious in watching Slaf and it partially explains his slow starts.

When he gets it all together he will be a first touch, possession monster, PPG. You see it in games like last night.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

I remember Galchenyuk and Kostitsyn developed at their own pace. I prefer the pace Brady Tkachuk and Logan Cooley developed, personally, but it’s a matter of taste.

Thank GOD Lane Hutson chose to develop a quicker rate than Slafkvosky. I respect players who develop faster — again this is just a matter of taste. I won’t be able to convince you the Hutson-pace is better for the Habs than the Slafkvosky-pace.

I haven’t watched full games this past week but I appreciate Slafkvosky is almost on pace to beat his PPG from last year. A flat development trajectory is better than a negative one, I always say.

Galchenyuk and Kostitsyn are both head case lazy players. Comparing Slaf to them is comparing apples to oranges. I mostly agree with the rest.