Player Discussion Will Slafkovsky better last years stats

[SlafySZN]

He's averaging over 2 hits per game and is playing less 5 on 5 minutes than last year. I don't know what you guys are expecting at this point. He's not Eric Lindros 2.0 and I don't know that many players who destroys players with hits on a regular basis.

He's 2nd or 3rd in hits on the team. Don't really know what more do they want? yesterday he was also damn good along the boards.

 

[Kennerback]

Tkachuk scored 44 points in his 20 years old season and had a worse PPG than Slaf has now, in his season after at 21.

He wouldn't have been good enough for you.

Depending on your definition of Power Forward you can make an argument that Cam Neely is the greatest in history. He only had more than 40 points in his D+5 season, playing in a higher scoring era of hockey. For Getzlaf 40 points+ happened in his D+4.

 

[ReHabs]

He's 20.

He did it at 17 at the Olympics and you’ll boast about it but when a Habs fan wonders why he’s not doing it at 20, you decide that his young age prevents him from doing so.

I’m learning so much tonight.

 

[ReHabs]

Yes for your first paragraph. I’ll get in more details another time but suffice to say. I believe’s he’s not physically driving the net not because he can’t physically and mentally. There are other factors at play including the coach not insisting on it and Suzuki, on public record, wanting him to act as the line’s playmaker.

In the playoffs, the way Suzuki wants to play will not translate. You try one thing after another until something works. What works will be Slaf crashing the net with the puck.

Suzuki and MSL have gotten in Slafkovsky’s way but in the playoffs they’ll change his game entirely and Slafkovsky will be successful in this other way. Okay thanks, now I understand.

Depending on your definition of Power Forward you can make an argument that Cam Neely is the greatest in history. He only had more than 40 points in his D+5 season, playing in a higher scoring era of hockey. For Getzlaf 40 points+ happened in his D+4.

The power forward that Slafkvosky is not but you know he will be in the playoffs, right?

 

[Guy Larose]

He did it at 17 at the Olympics and you’ll boast about it but when a Habs fan wonders why he’s not doing it at 20, you decide that his young age prevents him from doing so.

I’m learning so much tonight.

No you're not. You didn't learn from last year either.

 

[Habssince89]

2 more apples for slaf. He has a history of ending strong in seasons, and he simply is surrounded by better players. Not to mention the 4 Nations Cup break will be a big help to freshen up the roster. Lots of external factors indicate slaf will improve on his totals, and that's without even entering his actual improvement as a player into the equation

 

[Kennerback]

He did it at 17 at the Olympics and you’ll boast about it but when a Habs fan wonders why he’s not doing it at 20, you decide that his young age prevents him from doing so.

I’m learning so much tonight.

Highly skilled players with top speed will get success earlier in the NHL, despite not being completely developed. A huge part of a Power Forward’s game is based on size and strength. It’s the exact same reason de facto NFL players at 21, except the rare one or two exception.

 

[SlafySZN]

Suzuki and MSL have gotten in Slafkovsky’s way but in the playoffs they’ll change his game entirely and Slafkovsky will be successful in this other way. Okay thanks, now I understand.


The power forward that Slafkvosky is not but you know he will be in the playoffs, right?

What about wanting the Brady Tkachuk development, though? so we can assume you'd be okay with Slaf scoring 44 points this season.

 

[ReHabs]

No you're not. You didn't learn from last year either.

That’s where you’re wrong. I learned that Slaf had arrived last year. This year comes around and he’s getting lapped by rookies and sophomores and I’ve learned he is still a wee little tyke soft baby darling Angel who needs more time to grow at his own pace like the lovely sweet darling young small boy that he is.

Last year I learned he was physically a beast and a threat every time he got onto the ice. Tonight I learn that he can’t replicate what he did at 17 because he’s only a little wee lad at 20.

I’m learning that sports commentators will say anything as long as it feels right and so I shouldn’t bother bickering anymore.

I’m going to have fun poking at Slaf when he sucks, which is too often, and I’ll have fun when he doesn’t suck and plays good hockey, which isn’t often enough. Sue me.

Highly skilled players with top speed will get success earlier in the NHL, despite not being completely developed. A huge part of a Power Forward’s game is based on size and strength. It’s the exact same reason de facto NFL players at 21, except the rare one or two exception.

You keep calling Slaf a power forward but he’s not a power forward. You’re describing someone else. Rantanen maybe.

 

[ReHabs]

What about wanting the Brady Tkachuk development, though? so we can assume you'd be okay with Slaf scoring 44 points this season.

Unfortunately, Slaf got 10pts in his rookie season (20pt pace) and got himself injured and Brady got 45pts in his rookie season. The ship has sailed.

 

[SlafySZN]

Unfortunately, Slaf got 10pts in his rookie season (20pt pace) and got himself injured and Brady got 45pts in his rookie season. The ship has sailed.

Why aren't you talking about the 2 seasons after? it doesn't fit the narrative?

 

[Guy Larose]

What about wanting the Brady Tkachuk development, though? so we can assume you'd be okay with Slaf scoring 44 points this season.

Your hero Tkatchuk has 38 points to Slaf's 28 in 3 less games, despite only being 20 and Slaf having a slow start.

 

[SlafySZN]

Your hero Tkatchuk has 38 points to Slaf's 28 in 3 less games, despite only being 20 and Slaf having a slow start.

@ReHabs said he would prefer Slaf having the Tkachuk development path.

I was telling him Tkachuk scored 44 points at 20. He wouldn't have been good enough for him back then if we listen to how he describe Slaf now but for some reason it's an ideal development, but not for Slaf.

the 44 points and 36 points in 56 games the year after probably count more for him because it's from a player he actually likes.

 

[Kennerback]

You keep calling Slaf a power forward but he’s not a power forward. You’re describing someone else. Rantanen maybe.

That’s why you and I view his upside in such a radically different way. I believe he’ll need his size and strength to maximize his performance. Through trial and error in the 50s in American Football they determined a 20 year old didn’t even have the minimal physical requirements to be allowed on a field in a power based sport like football.

 

[ReHabs]

Going with your development argument it failed Brady, he got 44 points the year after at 20 years old and 36 points in 56 games at 21.

Not good enough.

36 in 56 is a better pace than what Slaf is on right now, FYI.

But that is beside the point.

I didn’t follow Brady’s career closely so I don’t know how his fans felt about his development but I am following Slafkovsky’s career and I feel like saying things like “Slaf will develop at his own pace” is meaningless while he’s getting lapped by players drafted after him.

Maybe he will, maybe he won’t, but (last game notwithstanding!!) he’s having a shit season and he’s repeatedly said he’s having a shit season so the denialism and excuse making is really amusing and worth mockery.

That’s why you and I view his upside in such a radically different way. I believe he’ll need his size and strength to maximize his performance.

Every player needs their size and strength to maximize his performance. It doesn’t make them power forwards.

 

[Team_Spirit]

He's bullying Gally for all of us so that alone is worth at least 10pts in my books.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

36 in 56 is a better pace than what Slaf is on right now, FYI.

But that is beside the point.

I didn’t follow Brady’s career closely so I don’t know how his fans felt about his development but I am following Slafkovsky’s career and I feel like saying things like “Slaf will develop at his own pace” is meaningless while he’s getting lapped by players drafted after him.

Maybe he will, maybe he won’t, but (last game notwithstanding!!) he’s having a shit season and he’s repeatedly said he’s having a shit season so the denialism and excuse making is really amusing and worth mockery.


Every player needs their size and strength to maximize his performance. It doesn’t make them power forwards.

The fact that you're saying that he's having a shit season shows your true nature. You slam other people's arguments but I rarely see you bring any data beside that table you shared that looked only at forwards.

 

[SlafySZN]

36 in 56 is a better pace than what Slaf is on right now, FYI.

But that is beside the point.

I didn’t follow Brady’s career closely so I don’t know how his fans felt about his development but I am following Slafkovsky’s career and I feel like saying things like “Slaf will develop at his own pace” is meaningless while he’s getting lapped by players drafted after him.

Maybe he will, maybe he won’t, but (last game notwithstanding!!) he’s having a shit season and he’s repeatedly said he’s having a shit season so the denialism and excuse making is really amusing and worth mockery.


Every player needs their size and strength to maximize his performance. It doesn’t make them power forwards.

You must be happy he didn't have the best first half of the season, you don't have to pretend you like him.

You keep finding ways to talk about his long gone rookie season or whatever other things. Admitting you have ''fun'' poking at him.

 

[Kennerback]

Every player needs their size and strength to maximize his performance. It doesn’t make them power forwards.

Not in the sense you believe. The greatest NHL season was made by a 20 year old that weighed 160 pounds. He wouldn’t have been allowed to put a toe on a power sport field at that age. He also would have had a 2-3 game NHL career if he tried playing as a Power Forward.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Hes perhaps having a better pace for points but on the ice i think hes behind in terms of presence on the ice.

Hes riding alot Suzuki Caufield for points

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Hes riding alot Suzuki Caufield for points

He compliments them well

 

[SlafySZN]

Delete.

 

[MasterMatt25]

People be overreacting

 

[ReHabs]

The fact that you're saying that he's having a shit season shows your true nature. You slam other people's arguments but I rarely see you bring any data beside that table you shared that looked only at forwards.

Slafkovsky himself has criticised his own season. “Your true nature” What the heck are you talking about?

There’s no need to bring additional data: Slafkovsky is not having a good season so far. There’s almost half of the season left so who knows, maybe he’ll turn it around.

You must be happy he didn't have the best first half of the season, you don't have to pretend you like him.

You keep finding ways to talk about his long gone rookie season or whatever other things. Admitting you have ''fun'' poking at him.

Of course it’s fun to poke at the nonsense said to excuse his performances. Like LaP bragged about his 17 year old performance in international play but said as a 20 year old he can’t play the same way because he’s too young. That’s just funny!

 

[Victoire HuGo]

Slafkovsky himself has criticised his own season. “Your true nature” What the heck are you talking about?

There’s no need to bring additional data: Slafkovsky is not having a good season so far. There’s almost half of the season left so who knows, maybe he’ll turn it around.

You said he's having a shit season. Now it's not a good season. If people stopped with using hyperboles to make a point, exchanges wouldn't be as hostile on this board.